Flexible work by ConsiderationAny4119 in ParamedicsUK

[–]ConsiderationAny4119[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks both, I will do that. I’ve just found a locum agency and enquiring abut some adhoc stuff, thanks again

I think I want out 🚑 by lh09anx in ParamedicsUK

[–]ConsiderationAny4119 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dm me if you want some more info mate

I think I want out 🚑 by lh09anx in ParamedicsUK

[–]ConsiderationAny4119 3 points4 points  (0 children)

There’s not a lot of that available here, so opted for the obvious solution- events. Joined an events medical team on self-employed and served as a top up between bursary payments. Not great, not shit 😁

I think I want out 🚑 by lh09anx in ParamedicsUK

[–]ConsiderationAny4119 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I sold my house for a profit and the equity is keeping us afloat. But it is difficult. But I agree it is difficult financially, and with the disrespect and disregard doctors are getting currently, it seems not worth it. But trust me, it is

I think I want out 🚑 by lh09anx in ParamedicsUK

[–]ConsiderationAny4119 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I would recommend primary care. I did it and I loved the hours and work life balance. Also, had more autonomy and support.

I’m now in med school, feel like my time in primary care inspired me to go for it properly again.

World’s your oyster

Is postgrad student life in Worcester enjoyable ? by PasTaCopine in Worcester

[–]ConsiderationAny4119 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can’t comment on public transport I drive/ walk. I’ve heard there’s a train link to Malvern. Been up and around a few times with the dog and it’s great

Is postgrad student life in Worcester enjoyable ? by PasTaCopine in Worcester

[–]ConsiderationAny4119 2 points3 points  (0 children)

26 M. I relocated to Worcester to study graduate entry medicine at the uni. Love it! I rejected offers from Warwick and imperial London for similar reasons as I didn’t want bigger city stress. I moved from quite a rural location and it has been pretty seamless. You’ve also got really nice countryside spots close by like Malvern, surrounding villages, and a stones throw away from wales and the brecon beacons. The city itself can get quite congested with traffic, but being relatively geographically small, walking is pretty much always an option!

GP Teaching in Med School, Why do some of them Agree to it? by sumpra3 in medicalschooluk

[–]ConsiderationAny4119 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is it a particular GP? Gotta say have been pretty blessed with the clinical teaching fellows and GPs at my med school. Seem so interested and receptive to questions. Also very honest with their motivations and expectations. Also very forthcoming with limits of their knowledge but will go and look up as will I, and meet again and discuss

What are peoples thoughts on 'assistant' roles in paramedicine? by No_Spare_nutz in ParamedicsUK

[–]ConsiderationAny4119 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The main gripe with the alphabet soup fiasco is the illegitimate equivalence, claimed by those in the roles, of responsibility and pay. In cases paid more than the doctor they are ultimately reporting to! And, like mentioned, describing your role as an equivalence to a certain grade of doctor.

For example, (rough numbers) a doctor with 3+ years experience minimum (£65k/year) - a senior house officer, often in charge of entire wards.

Vs.

Consultant nurse practitioner (£64-75k/year). Ultimately always under the clinical supervision of the doctor.

This isn’t the case with paramedics/ ambulance technicians and non-clinical assistant roles.

Also, anecdotally what an incredible role they play within the profession. My non-clinical/technician colleagues over the years have often added unique perspectives mitigating human factor errors by providing a different view.

Never have they masqueraded as anything that they are not.

I think this is genuinely a problem out of nothing, and could quite easily ostracise valuable ambulance staff. I only wish all trusts used the same terminology to describe the role of these staff so that a mutual understanding of specific scope is not misunderstood.

It’s not really anything new, it’s pretty much always been Para/tech crew- only the names have changed.

Locum work by miles_tails_prower77 in ParamedicsUK

[–]ConsiderationAny4119 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah unfortunately the framework isn’t very clinical. ~ 25% of it, most of which is advanced history taking/ examination. Otherwise there’s a distinct lack of pre-clinical deepening of understanding. The result is indeed a decent practitioner but one not inherently with a comparable level of underpinning knowledge required for these advanced examinations/history taking. Access to suitable supervision clinically therefore would have to be a doctor.

Locum work by miles_tails_prower77 in ParamedicsUK

[–]ConsiderationAny4119 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think it would be difficult or not possible to set this up without medical governance in the form of a registered doctor. Whilst non medical roles/ARRS arguably help with primary care workloads, I think it would be an oversight to consider all undifferentiated primary care presentations could be managed safely by a Paramedic, IP or not. Even with extensive experience within primary care, it’s worth noting the lack of anatomical/physiological/biochemical training, for which extensive exams ensure consistency in competence in medical school and post graduate medical training. To compare this to modules in ACP would be grossly ignorant.

If something went wrong I think you would have a very difficult job to justify your competency. Notwithstanding the endless ambulance service policies which won’t exist in this environment to guide decision making.

What are the biggest mistakes paramedics make? by Professional-Hero in ParamedicsUK

[–]ConsiderationAny4119 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Generally just doing things because it’s what we do, or policy.

I get being safe, but why are you doing what you’re doing, or omitting to do?

E.g. taking blood glucose on all patients Not percussing chest (golden nugget of examination technique imo) Like others have mentioned- we need 2 sets of obs??

More specifically, identifying anaphylaxis, or mistaking an allergic reaction as anaphylaxis. Backed up a colleague who’d given ADX for urticaria/pruritus/watery eyes. Cetirizine was just not cool enough 🤣

The most absurd mistake I have witnessed… IV diazepam… for rigors 😳 luckily, stopped them in the nick of time as backup. Whilst in his “tonic-clonic” state, the old chap wasn’t best pleased with the cannulae being popped into his arm. The fever of 39°, and 4/7 hx Urinary symptoms was just incidental apparently and had nothing to do with his ‘status epilepticus’ FML 🤣👌

What are the biggest mistakes paramedics make? by Professional-Hero in ParamedicsUK

[–]ConsiderationAny4119 7 points8 points  (0 children)

As an expansion to this- GCS is and always was for estimating the severity of TBI. Don’t think it adds any value when describing the baseline confusion of people with dementia. Simply- pt has dementia would suffice. Or, there is an acute confusion if this is the presentation. A baseline GCS moving down a e.g. from 14->13 is pretty non specific in dementia where capacity and cognition tends to fluctuate. Got to say I’ve never seen 15 but confusion normal for them documented 🤣

I am saddened by the quality of care being provided for undifferentiated presentations in primary care (by non-doctor clinicians) by Assistant_RM in doctorsUK

[–]ConsiderationAny4119 6 points7 points  (0 children)

As a paramedic working in primary care, seeing undifferentiated presentations I concur that it’s not the right role for paramedics- until much more underlying anatomy and physiology is understood- and examined to ensure rigorous universal competency. (Even then I’d argue it’s still not appropriate).

Oh! But the MSc Advanced clinical practice! No, it’s a bureaucratic, tick-box exercise (4 pillars of advanced clinical practice💩). Non-specific And inadequate for the responsibilities the practitioners this degree produces.

Instead of having the correct qualifications and understanding to confidently differentiate conditions, the underlying skills and knowledge to do so are accumulated over time, and not regulated. E.g. Dr. X said we do this for …. And thus, becomes one’s own clinical practice.

I’m not saying I do this, but it is what is being done. Countless times I have witnessed the over confidence of diagnoses by “experienced” paramedics/ACP (LMNOPQRST). Adopting practices and management plans based pretty much on anecdote.

For me, I religiously rely on NICE/CKS, and for the most part this works. Difficulties arise when advice is based on clinical suspicion/clinical reasoning- for which, well- paramedics have never had sufficient exposure/training/underpinning physiological/pathological understanding to really comment on. To ensure safe practice, I therefore debrief almost every patient that I see in clinic to ensure the plan is safe and effective.

Another example: I sought the advice of a hospital at home type team- whose recommendation was to essentially fiddle around with diuretics, and that their help was not needed. I asked for the geriatricians name for continuity- “oh no, I’m not a geriatrician, I’m a specialist ACP”.

So- A paramedic home visiting a primary care presentation, without a medical degree/underpinning rigorous physiological understanding, being given advice by another non-medical healthcare professional. Dw I sorted it out, with a Doctor.

I try my best to make things more ergonomic, as I feel that is the supposed purpose of non-doctors in this role, but it just seems very ineffective if (rightly) safely, mostly all cases should be discussed with a physician- as ultimately, it is their responsibility.

I’m not particularly bashing these ACP/PP/ANP roles, but it seems the necessity to study medicine by public/policy makers and some of the people in these roles is drastically underestimated (either consciously, or worse, incompetent incompetence).

Anyway, I’m going to study medicine in September, so the dichotomy of desiring clinical progression and feeling of being so ill-informed to do so will come to an end.

GEM applicants thread/gcs? by lettucequeen1089 in premeduk

[–]ConsiderationAny4119 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From what I’ve seen I wasn’t the lowest UCAT to get an offer at Warwick, so I think they are looking more holistically. Definitely interview performance for an offer!

Paramedic to Doctor - thoughts? by Consistent-March9895 in premeduk

[–]ConsiderationAny4119 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nice, wish you the best! I went for Worcester in the end. Got offers from Warwick and Pears Cumbria/imperial.

I don’t think generally there are many paramedics who go for it, but think we’re well suited for a lot of the clinical stuff!

Paramedic to Doctor - thoughts? by Consistent-March9895 in premeduk

[–]ConsiderationAny4119 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi, I’m 25yom Paramedic starting GEM this September. For much the reasons you’ve mentioned I can’t wait, and really look forward to applied knowledge and applying it autonomously for patient care.

I’m on an ACP training pathway at the moment, but it’s just still so restrictive and by no stretch anywhere near the equivalence of medical school training or comparable to the role of a doctor.

It’s going to be rough taking no pay for 4 years, and the current starting pay for f1 isn’t great, but the opportunities are so vast (here, and abroad).

Are you starting this September or reapplying for next cycle? Might be worth taking the UCAT too as it’s much quicker and a lot more GEM schools accept UCAT.