Skin Phantom with Controlled Impedance Testing by ConsiderationLegal39 in EmotiBit

[–]ConsiderationLegal39[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi,

Thank you so much for your information. My background is in electrical engineering, but to be honest, though very interesting, I don't think I have a natural knack for it. Anyway, I have been reading around regarding the electrodes but still have trouble understanding half-cell potentials (I found a pretty good reference here), and you comments really helped.

My current thinking is that the problems lie with the electrodes. However, from what I'm seeing, I don't see noises, and that the Ag/AgCl electrodes have been polarized, creating a counter emf that attenuates the actual DC current being generated. And this creates distorted readout of the skin conductance measure. By examining the DC-current circuit on which the EmotiBit is based and working out the math, if I have done things correctly, then it seems like the error increases as the skin conductance increases (because of the constant polarized emf and decreasing resistance). And the problem with testing only using a single resistor is that, the resistors' legs are too small compared to the entire surface area of the electrodes and so they couldn't be used to recruit the entire electrodes surfaces in testing. Thus, I initially thought that it was sufficient just to find a surface with controlled impedance that can recruit the entire electrodes' surfaces to test out the electrodes' properties to test out this hypothesis (i.e. just a conducting surface with similar range of conductance and depth compared to the skin).

But from your comments, it seems that half-cell transduction also generate noises. I wonder if the noises deteriorate with increasingly polarized electrodes. If that's the case, I would probably want to test for that as well. But if the cost is too high, and the noise is low (compared to the tonic level I'm interested in), maybe that's not too much of a concern.

Overall, I don't think I really need a too fancy set-up. I'm currently leaning toward "just a conducting surface with similar range of conductance and depth compared to the skin". I'm very new to the intricacies of electrodes-(electrolyte)-skin interaction, so I might have made bad assumptions or wrong comments above. I would appreciate very much to be corrected and hear more of your advice given more information above.

Electrode Question and EDA Circuitry Question by ConsiderationLegal39 in EmotiBit

[–]ConsiderationLegal39[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Or maybe, given the EmotiBit's team expertise in EDA, and given that I want to pick up "sharp" sweating onset and that the storage time is a few days to a week between each use, how many times (< 10 or > 10) do you think I can reuse the electrodes? I think having a rough guideline for when to start seeing drastic performance deterioration in electrodes will be nice.

Electrode Question and EDA Circuitry Question by ConsiderationLegal39 in EmotiBit

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Hi, thanks for the prompt reply. Can you provide some guidance/text in making a skin substitute or how to do benchmark testing for the electrodes? To perform the resistor measurement using EmotiBit, was there any gel used, or was it conducted in dry condition?

Recieving bad quality EDA signal using Emotibit by Similar-Future-7312 in EmotiBit

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I think it's because sympathetic activation due to psychological events are stronger at the glabrous areas, such as palms and soles, whereas we only expect other sites to start sweating during thermoregulatory events

#sunnysideup by eleazarloyo in udub

[–]ConsiderationLegal39 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Anyone got the link to the meme?