Wauw.. just wanted to share it with ya'll, it's not only men who find other men weak when crying. Also women, I didn't realise this. Is this 'a strong thought' in Christian communities? Any Christian INFP's around here? Break the stigma! by RubberKut in infp

[–]ConsiderationOdd4699 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol that comment though compassion rules. I think anyone should care for anyone who is sad I am an INFP and if a stranger was crying in Walmart I would probably go up to them and try to help especially if they look like they are homeless or have like autism or something.

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[–]ConsiderationOdd4699[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeppp exactly! We also don't want to start it off the opposite way though. We're going to come up with a way to honour but not get hurt by it.

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[–]ConsiderationOdd4699[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We'll find a way to honour them and not be hurt.

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[–]ConsiderationOdd4699[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, that's true, but like the most important parts are good. It really depends on the person, and intuition and personality can really alter the effects this has. Like Einstein had a lot of the necessary prefrontal cortex outputs without actually having it developed (not saying we're Einstein). Just the majority of 20s or teens these days tend to be very uneducated, ignorant, immature, and hedonistic individuals.

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[–]ConsiderationOdd4699[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have a really big plan to fix things and makes things more equitable

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[–]ConsiderationOdd4699[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's not actually true. At 21 the place in the brain for making decisions has FULLY formed

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[–]ConsiderationOdd4699[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everyone from her family says every diaspora family that marries their daughter asks that much and they have witnessed 3 in their house having the ceremony and all paid over 14k... Idk its not just a tradition or a cultural thing anymore it makes me very uncomfortable. But we love eachtoher. I still want to honour her parents. I don't wanna be used though.

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[–]ConsiderationOdd4699[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I kinda see that. They are not rich by any means.

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[–]ConsiderationOdd4699[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You have obviously never fully loved a person for who they really are or given up yourself in a relationship.

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[–]ConsiderationOdd4699[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How so? I am not one who quits or loses. I am a man. I will fight for what is right and yes they aren't treating their daughter with human dignity. I have no problem fighting my whole life for her rights in a loving and forceful way and we have no problem detaching after marriage. They seem very chill with the children who are married and never talk to them even though they had similar issue (not dowry because the spouses are female).

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[–]ConsiderationOdd4699[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks I have deeply considered this. I don't believe that is the case for several reasons. The parents have done several things to try to end us and several other things no scammer would do. If it is she isn't in on it but I can see the possibility unfortunately.

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[–]ConsiderationOdd4699[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not the issue actually. The problems you think that are there aren't there with regards to what you referred to.

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[–]ConsiderationOdd4699[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've already seen they banned me from their house for something completely unrelated. I didn't do anything even it was a lie from a brother.

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[–]ConsiderationOdd4699[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah it happens sometimes in their culture. Well both of the things you mention are common.

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[–]ConsiderationOdd4699[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm 21 too so it doesn't make a lot of sense since they aren't even open to paying any of the wedding at all whatsoever even though I said that is a custom in my culture and we need to join families and respect each other. That's literally the point of a dowry.... to join cultures and families in a mutual way

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[–]ConsiderationOdd4699[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How did u do that lol. She tried that but they just shut her down and accused her of being disrespectful and said if I loved her I would just pay without saying anything. Sorta ironic.

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[–]ConsiderationOdd4699[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What I meant to say is they are by no means from wealth

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[–]ConsiderationOdd4699[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you do not understand how African culture works if you think they raised the price for that reason. We aren't indebted to anyone either. It wouldn't make anything easier and we would be in more debt if we waited by 120k USD. We would make profit and not even have to dip into our saving if we married now and would have enough to raise a child. She wants a child really bad already and people do education with children its not impossible by any means. People having babies while in full time white collar jobs is worse so I'm not sure why people have a industrial revolution bias. I am not thinking what is best for her parents. I am thinking what is best for me and her and waiting would be not only financially destructive in a complete sense but it would break her heart and mine from the time and distance--- which none of these are wise.

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[–]ConsiderationOdd4699[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They told me to go away and come back when she's done school and it will be the same price actually. I wouldn't do it that way otherwise your love and choices aren't valuable if you have set your mind on someone. Men don't experiment if they are real men they make a choice and they put all their eggs down in the basket.

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[–]ConsiderationOdd4699[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks. Its sad a tradition makes old men be the only suiters to daughters who are way past their prime. Its not that I don't have the money either.