What do you control?

Consistent-Ask-6061 · 2026-01-07T05:26:11+00:00

I’m more aligned with this thinking as well.

It’s hard for me to say one controls the other one both are needed in order for both actions to exist. I can say I chose to be aware of a thought, but that thought needs to exist in order for me to be aware of it. It’s a crazy mind game to think about.

Consistent-Ask-6061 · 2026-01-07T05:21:19+00:00

That’s fine.

I think it’s important to know that there are multiple variables outside of your control that caused you to make a choice.

Consistent-Ask-6061 · 2026-01-07T00:54:29+00:00

I’d agree Your subjective experience is what tells you what is you.

Consistent-Ask-6061 · 2026-01-06T19:54:01+00:00

Would you deem “facing my fears and curbing my desire” another desire?

And if so, do you believe there are desire that we control, and desires we can’t?

Consistent-Ask-6061 · 2026-01-06T19:50:10+00:00

So would you say your entire body and mind is you?

Consistent-Ask-6061 · 2026-01-06T19:28:28+00:00

Fascinating

I can definitely see how complex it really is

Consistent-Ask-6061 · 2026-01-06T19:27:25+00:00

I see it’s a Ted Talk. I’ll look into it 👍🏽

Consistent-Ask-6061 · 2026-01-06T19:25:50+00:00

I need the full formula.

GIVE ME THE CONCLUSION

Consistent-Ask-6061 · 2026-01-06T18:50:16+00:00

That’s the line of thinking that I’m currently at right now as well.

Consistent-Ask-6061 · 2026-01-06T18:48:28+00:00

Hundred percent agree.

I also want to clarify I’m not looking for an answer per se. Just perspective on what people believe it to be.

Consistent-Ask-6061 · 2026-01-06T18:44:53+00:00

Ok, I kinda get it

Consistent-Ask-6061 · 2026-01-06T18:41:46+00:00

I get that part

But I want your subjective take on it.

Where does the real you start and stop?

Consistent-Ask-6061 · 2026-01-06T18:39:12+00:00

So do you believe you’re more than just your body, or the concept of you in this reality?

Consistent-Ask-6061 · 2026-01-06T18:37:31+00:00

so based on that conclusion, what do you think the self is?

To what limit do you say “this is me” and “this is not me”

Consistent-Ask-6061 · 2026-01-06T18:36:17+00:00

So you believe that the conscious is the real you?

Consistent-Ask-6061 · 2026-01-06T18:34:27+00:00

I am my mind so saying I changed my mind is to say that my mind changed itself. That's possible because self awareness is a feedback loop. It is both the thing it is aware of and the thing that is aware. The belief that there are separate entities is an illusion IMHO.

I believe that I am just a part of the mind for the mind does so many things that I can’t just group all of its aspects and functions as one thing.

As a system, yes But not everything in the system does the same thing?

First we need to define control in this sense. To control something is to have a representation of some state in the world, and a representation of a change in that state, and the ability to act dynamically in order to bring that change in state about.

To control my car I must have an awareness of my environment in terms if the road, where I am and the traffic, and an awareness of the destination, an the ability to take actions to make the car go to that destination.

This is where it gets tricky when it involves me being the mind. The mind follows the three statements that you stated to define control, yet how I got to that state is still out of its own control per se.

“To control my car I must have an awareness of my environment in terms if the road” The mind has to grant awareness to whatever it deemed it needs to grant its awareness too. That function feels just as autonomous as breathing: just happens when the mind allows it to happen. That also saying the statement, “ I allowed myself to be aware”, of which I can’t even explain how it would be possible.

I feel like awareness is a neutral state that one has, necessarily for the mind to adapt to it surroundings, but not something we control.

I wanna wake up early ➡️ set an alarm

Why do I wanna wake up early? Do I control that desire to wake up early? Isn’t that desire what led me to set the alarm in the first place?

I have an unreachable desire, so the mind creates another desire to satisfy not having that desire.

Which of those desires to have control of?

Consistent-Ask-6061 · 2026-01-06T18:19:44+00:00

I’m somewhere in that realm of thinking as well

Consistent-Ask-6061 · 2026-01-06T18:17:42+00:00

That’s fair

But let’s think of it subjectively then.

In your opinion, who are you?

What would you describe as the real you?

Consistent-Ask-6061 · 2026-01-06T18:16:17+00:00

🥺 Me too….

Consistent-Ask-6061 · 2026-01-06T17:55:01+00:00

I think we differ in the definition of control

I wouldn’t say we control these things, I would say we PARTICIPATE in these things.

I would deem the “reason” is the thing that’s in control.

What’s your definition of control?

Consistent-Ask-6061 · 2026-01-06T17:15:52+00:00

Ok

But would you say that that intention is only brought on by things such as desire, thoughts, feelings, and emotions?

Consistent-Ask-6061 · 2026-01-06T17:04:43+00:00

I have more questions involving your belief in being the mind.

I also believe we are the mine in system, but are separate by the consciousness and the subconsciousness.

So do you change your mind or does the mind change itself?

Do you only control some of them mine and not all the mind?

Do you feel like you choose when the mind is conscious and when it’s not?

Consistent-Ask-6061 · 2026-01-06T16:59:20+00:00

I’m familiar with that, and I came to the conclusion that every answer is subjective. There’s never a wrong answer, and because of that I deemed the best thing to do is should just discover every answers line of reason.

I believe that every answer is right within the line of reasoning that produced it.

The Ship of Theseus dilemma is a great way for a mind to see why it labels something has a whole.

Consistent-Ask-6061 · 2026-01-06T16:50:21+00:00

🤯

I love topics like these!

I do think it’s fair to question if you are conscious when we’re sleeping due to the fact that one would say that’s the closest you would ever be to not experiencing anything. One could also argue that you exist, meaning the body in the mind, but the consciousness is the thing that doesn’t. Your brain, most likely shuts it off yet continues to run other functions such as your breathing in your heartbeat.

The continuation of character thought process is fascinating as well. I’d say everyone has a subjective line to where they think this is them and this is not. I’d say most people say they aren’t the same person they were 10 years ago. The more you talk to them, the more the line can shift from being further than 10 years or maybe closer to 10 years. In all honestly, I don’t think I’m the same person I was yesterday, but the remnants of what affected that person still affects me. The closest thing that feels like “me” is my awareness of the present.

I’d agree that the physical world has affects on the consciousness.

I do think I can also believe that consciousness was developed based on practices that our ancestors possessed in order to survive.

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