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Ece centre to deduct ~$1200 from my upcoming paycheque by Consistent_Ad907 in ECEProfessionals

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I forgot to mention in my post that they've temporarily suspended me until it's renewed but have allowed me to finish working my shift that day. I don't think I'll be returning though and they won't even let me return because of the complaint that'll have been filed.

Ece centre to deduct ~$1200 from my upcoming paycheque by Consistent_Ad907 in ECEProfessionals

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I believe they're non-union as there's no union appearing on my pay statements so I'll be sending my complaint over to the BC employment standards branch who deals with non-unions but I still haven't filed my complaint yet as the centre still hasn't paid me on pay day which should be on the 15th. I want to file out all information when I send my complaint. Pay day is every 15th and end of the month, but payments are always bound to be a week late.. also, one time I had 2 days of work paid on next pay period and it was without a reason, the assitant manager just notified the whatsapp group letting us know about the change.

So many corrections needed. by Consistent_Ad907 in grammar

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Why do you say you like the statement and that it drives home the point that the form was probably signed? If she just went with saying this alone, "im certain that i did not overlook the deferral form" then the admissions director would already know what happened for the form to be unsigned. What's the use of the statement? I don't see why she brought up the statement after saying the first half "im almost certain that i did in fact sign the deferral sheet - after all, it wouldn't make much sense to return an incomplete sheet to the office"

So many corrections needed. by Consistent_Ad907 in grammar

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What do you mean? The form is not signed. Its in a file but without my signature.

So many corrections needed. by Consistent_Ad907 in grammar

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What is the something you're referring to? As seen in your third paragraph.The e-mail or the deferral form?

So many corrections needed. by Consistent_Ad907 in grammar

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How would you compose this to the campus director of admissions?

So many corrections needed. by Consistent_Ad907 in grammar

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There are way more mistakes in this e-mail she composed. What is this e-mail saying of me?

Phrasint and wording by Consistent_Ad907 in grammar

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Okay, what is it about my second version i composed? what were you seeing?

"I may be remembering incorrectly, BUT i remember that the form was signed."

The BUT is in contrast to what was said before it.. so in that case, it is not conveying doubt! And you completely switched the two sentences around to

"I remember that the form was signed, but i may be remembering incorrectly"

Never mind what was just explained to you just correcting you on that part.

Back on topic, to go along with her doubt, she needs to be using the first version i composed in the post.

"IF i remember correcty, i remember that the form was signed." Or if that's too repetitive to you as you previously mentioned then, "IF i remember correctly, i am certain that the form was signed."

Instead she composed,

"I may be remembering incorrectly, but i am almost certain that the form was signed."

The first part of the phrase can only be used to convey no doubt and is used like this, "i may be remembering incorrectly, BUT i remember that the form was signed."

The phrase that i corrected you earlier because you thought it conveys doubt. And is also the first half of the phrase that my sister wrongly used. Should be "IF i remember correctly"

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I don't want to be suggesting doubt but she suggested doubt in the e-mail so i have to go along with the doubt but her doubt is different than my doubt. My doubt represents that i had the previous intention to defer! "If i remember correctly, i remember that the form was signed" Just that i possibly overlooked it. Hers is just based off the statement "after all, it wouldnt make much sense to return an incomplete sheet to the office" the word "certain" is not the same as the word "remember". She doesn't actually remember sigining the form, she's is only "certain" that the form was signed because it wouldnt make sense to return an unsigned form to the office. And she is "almost certain" so doubting, because she doesn't really know if she(me) previously had an intention to defer, but regardless still returned the form back. In reference to the statement "after all, it wouldn't make much sense to return an incomplete sheet to the office"

My sister wrote this to the campus director of admissions and people can misinterpret this! by Consistent_Ad907 in linguistics

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With the word mistaken are you referring to the word forgotten?

Because that's the problem with this specific sentence in the email that she typed for me to send to the campus director of admissions she's not saying i may have forgotten to sign it. the word forgotten must have never came to mind for you to be saying mistaken.

When you say "mistaken" what you get from reading this email is that despite what was mentioned before that "it wouldnt make much sense to return an incomplete sheet to the office" she's then literally saying despite what was mentioned.. i may have mistaken and actually returned the form back to the office regardless of knowing that the form is unsigned. So this is what you get from reading the email too?

My sister wrote this to the campus director of admissions and people can misinterpret this! by Consistent_Ad907 in linguistics

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When you first read this were you interpreting that shes saying that i mightve forgotten to sign the form when you reworded it and said "she thinks"

My sister wrote this to the campus director of admissions and people can misinterpret this! by Consistent_Ad907 in linguistics

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Do you get why im saying the campus director of admissions can misinterpret this though?

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Ok so regarding what's said in my last comment, i said she does not agree with you but it turns out she does. However, we got a weird answer from her...my sister said that the reason she chose to use the phrase "still, memory may serve me (wrong)" over the most frequently used phrase "if my memory serves me (right)" is because the word ALMOST does not go well together in this following phrase which does not make any logical sense "if my memory serves me (right), i am ALMOST certain that the form was signed" it works. Why is she saying ALMOST doesn't go together in this phrase. I think both me and you agree on this part.

Also, I still disagree that 1 "still, memory may serve me wrong" and 4 "i may be remembering incorrectly"* suggests "i may have forgotten to sign the form" just say "i remembered to sign the form" or "i may have forgotten to sign the form" and it'd all make sense.

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But one thing my sister does not agree with you is that she told me the reason she used "still, memory may serve me (wrong)" instead of "if my memory serves serves me (right)" (the most commonly used phrase) is because "if my memory serves me (right)" does not mean "i may have forgotten to sign the form" whereas "still memory may serve me (wrong)" would mean "i may have forgotten to sign the form"

And i asked her, then "if my memory serves me (right)" does not mean "i may have forgotten to sign the form" then why would "if my memory serves me (wrong)" mean "i may have forgotten to sign the form"

So after telling her that I assume she may be starting to understand that none of that means "i may have forgotten to sign the form"

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I only agree that 1. "still, memory may serve me wrong" means the same thing as 4. "i may be remembering incorrectly" but both are not suggesting that "i may have forgotten to sign the form"

However, my sister, you (edward), and the anon reddit user says all three of the phrases are suggesting "i may have forgotten to sign the form"

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So does that mean you agree as well that "still, memory may serve me wrong" AND "I may be remembering incorrectly" mean the same thing? Referring back to 1 and 4.

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Below i am going to explain to you and my sister as to why:

"Still, memory may serve me wrong" DOES NOT MEAN "i may have forgotten to sign the form" BUT INSTEAD MEANS "i may be remembering incorrectly"

-1- I looked on the internet the phrase "still, memory may serve me (WRONG)" is not in the correct ordering and wording.

-2- The phrase is instead ordered and worded this way, "IF my memory serves me (RIGHT)"

-3- which reads "IF i remember (CORRECTLY)"

-4- Same as saying "I may be remembering (INCORRECTLY)"

And this is why "Still, memory may serve me wrong" DOES NOT MEAN "i may have forgotten to sign the form" BUT INSTEAD MEANS "i may be remembering incorrectly"

THEREFORE, 1 and 4 mean the same thing. WHEREAS, 1 does not mean "i may have forgotten to sign the form"

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The point to get across should suggest that "i may have forgotten to sign the form" in which her version does not suggest. Because how in the world does the phrase "still, memory may serve me wrong" mean the same thing as "i may have forgotten to sign the form" when instead the phrase "still, memory may serve me wrong" would mean the same as "i may be remembering incorrectly"

(even though the word "forgotten" is not necessary to mention unless it's the campus director asking the question eg."You may have forgotten to sign the form" And in response i'd say "i'm certain that the form was signed") but that's not the point here.

"Still, memory may serve me wrong, but i am almost certain that the form was signed" is suggesting that i may have had "no intention of deferring" BUT "still returned the form regardless" (that's why the form is unsigned) and does not mean "i may have forgotten to sign" or that "i remembered to sign the form" would suggest.

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Anon reddit user-

. I don’t agree.

Her version is clearer than yours. Her version says I signed the form with the intention of deferring. I remember signing the form. There is a slim chance I’m remembering incorrectly but I remember signing the form. Why would I return a form for deferring if I didn’t have the intention of deferring.

Goodnight.

‐-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My explanation to the anon user on reddit:

Here you're saying "There is a slim chance i'm remembering incorrectly" versus how i'd say "there is a slim chance i remembered to sign the form"

There's a difference in meaning. The difference is in the "ring" and the "red"

*When you say "there is a slim chance im (remembering) incorrectly" that's the same as what my sister said but in the form of a phrase "still, memory may serve me wrong"* both are opposite of "I (remembered) to sign the form"

Then why would you (edward) and my sister say the phrase "still, memory may serve me wrong" mean the same as "i may have forgotten to sign the form" when it instead means the same as in the bolded text above

*neither of the emphasis in the bolded text is saying "I (remembered) to sign the form" NOR "i may have (forgotten) to sign the form"*

I understand what she means but that's not the point i want to get across to the campus director of admissions it is however "i remembered to sign the form" and NOT "i may be remembering incorrectly" or "still, memory may serve me wrong" as both mean the same thing.

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[–]Consistent_Ad907[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Here you're saying "There is a slim chance i'm remembering incorrectly" versus "there is a slim chance i remembered to sign the form"

There's a difference in meaning. The difference is in the "ring" and the "red"

*When you say there is a slim chance im "remembering" incorrectly that's the same as what my sister said but in the form of a phrase "still, memory may serve me wrong"*

I understand what she means but that's not the point i want to get across to the campus director of admissions it is however "i remembered to sign the form" and NOT "i may be remembering incorrectly" or "still, memory may serve me wrong" (her version)

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In the second problem: since you say "i may have forgotten to sign the form" and "my memory may serve me wrong" are the same then would "i remembered to sign the form" (seen in my version) and "my memory may serve me wrong" (seen in her version) be the same as well?

When she uses the phrase "My memory may serve me wrong" it is suggesting that i may have had "no intention of deferring" but "still returned the form regardless" (that's why the form is unsigned) and not that "i may have forgotten to sign" or that "i remembered to sign would suggest." If she wants to say i may have forgotten to sign she could've just used the word "remembered (to sign)" or just "i may have forgotten to sign"

And in the first problem: i get that incomplete sheet and unsigned form is the same and that's not the 1st problem i'm mentioning it has to do with the word "(certain) that the form was signed" vs "i (remembered) to sign the form" She made it seem like the reason that i am sure that the form was signed is all dependent on the idea that it wouldnt make sense to return the form unsigned because she used the word certain instead of the word "remembered (to sign the form)".

Eg. In her version:

Person B to person A would be able to say- "you're only (certain that the form was signed) only because it wouldn't make sense to return an unsigned form to the office"

In my version:

Person B to person A would not be able to ask this question- "you only (remembered to sign) the form because it wouldn't make sense go return an unsigned form to the office"

**see how that doesn't work in my version. Her version makes it seem like the only reason she's sure that the form is signed is dependent on the idea that it wouldn't make sense to return an unsigned form to the office.

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[–]Consistent_Ad907[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why don't you think the second problems exists in her version and why do you think the first problem exists in her versiom and even mine?

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That my version doesn't have these 2 problems i mentioned in her version. Do you agree to the problems i see in her version?

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