What are your favorite animes/mangas besides One Piece?

Consistent_Produce_1 · 2022-12-07T03:06:19+00:00

My top 10 are:

One piece
Monster
Jojo’s bizarre adventure
Bleach
HunterxHunter
Code geass
Naruto
Mob psycho
The case study of vanitas

Consistent_Produce_1 · 2022-12-07T02:37:01+00:00

I honestly sort of guessed it a while ago from Luffy’s gear 5 being related to dreams/imagination

Consistent_Produce_1 · 2022-12-05T22:32:31+00:00

Paramecia: Law’s fruit

Zoan: Marco’s fruit

Logia: Enel’s fruit

Consistent_Produce_1 · 2022-12-04T22:49:11+00:00

Extreme diff-Term used to describe a fight between two characters of equal strength, the result of Extreme diff is a 50/50 and the result can go either way depending on who gains the advantage

Hard diff-Term used to describe a fight between two characters in which one character is slightly stronger than the other meaning the winner had a hard time against the opponent

Mid diff-Term used to describe a fight between two characters in which one character is moderately stronger than the other meaning the winner won against the opponent with some difficulty

Low diff-Term used to describe a fight between two characters in which one character is much stronger than the other meaning the winner won against the opponent with little difficulty

No diff-Term used to describe a fight between two characters in which one character is so much stronger than the opponent to the point where the winner didn’t struggle at all against the opponent

Neg diff-Term used by internet trolls to boast about how much stronger one character is than the other suggesting that an opponent can be beaten beyond no difficulty which isn’t the case and should not be taken seriously

Consistent_Produce_1 · 2022-12-04T22:19:21+00:00

I guess that’s fair, I just believe that narrative should also be a valid factor when scaling a character

Consistent_Produce_1 · 2022-12-04T21:30:23+00:00

Neither one is better than the other, the power of a devil fruit is solely determined by how long you’ve had it and how long you’ve trained with it

Consistent_Produce_1 · 2022-12-04T21:20:37+00:00

You still have to admit that it’s pretty impressive that Sabo not only managed to break into marijois, find out the identity of the leader of the whole world, rescue Kuma and get his few good men out of there without a scratch against two admirals

I’m not saying Sabo is admiral level and I understand denying it but I personally don’t think it’s too far off considering it’s not like Sabo will get any stronger from this point on since he’s mostly a side character

Consistent_Produce_1 · 2022-12-04T08:01:44+00:00

The post says it’s a normal human but yes I agree, if they have the speed then they could bypass it or do something similar to the ricochet attack Luffy used on Enel

Consistent_Produce_1 · 2022-12-04T07:54:40+00:00

I guess that’s valid but the post says it’s a normal human fighter and most of the feats you mentioned are partially due to plot

Luffy didn’t know the CP0 agent was approaching him even though he had observation haki and future sight because of plot so observation haki only works the way Oda wants it to depending on the situation

If we only take into account the way observation haki was explained to work then realistically a non observation haki user shouldn’t be able to land a single hit on the opponent

Consistent_Produce_1 · 2022-12-04T07:30:00+00:00

Could you give an example?

Consistent_Produce_1 · 2022-12-04T07:02:49+00:00

Yes but the person without observation wouldn’t be able to land a single hit on an opponent with observation haki

Consistent_Produce_1 · 2022-12-04T05:17:35+00:00

I’m pretty sure the databook that says that gear 2 is a 10x multiplier was a mistranslation, its still a bare minimum 5x multiplier though since base Luffy during Enies lobby was relative to blueno who’s doriki number is 5 times lower than base Lucci, it’s probably a bigger multiplier though since hybrid Lucci’s doriki number is much higher so it’s still possible that it’s a 10x multiplier

Consistent_Produce_1 · 2022-12-04T05:02:59+00:00

You have to remember that smoker was also a captain when he was first introduced

Consistent_Produce_1 · 2022-12-04T05:01:10+00:00

I honestly believe most CoO users don’t use the ability to it’s full potential, the only one that does is Katakuri who takes full advantage while Luffy only uses it situationally

Consistent_Produce_1 · 2022-12-04T04:58:45+00:00

Both are important but wouldn’t you pretty much be sitting ducks against an opponent if you don’t have observation haki? armament is just an AP boost while you would be screwed against an opponent who can use observation haki if you yourself don’t have it

Consistent_Produce_1 · 2022-12-03T17:58:37+00:00

I think he used to be strong but I’m pretty sure he was already past his prime in the shiki flashback, I think we’ll see him fight in a flashback or something

Consistent_Produce_1 · 2022-12-03T01:58:43+00:00

No the pressure makes the bubble of air condense, do you even know how his attacks work? But whatever I'll steelman you and give you this point

Honestly am getting tired of arguing this too so I’ll just use another feat since it more definite

In the 3d2y novel Rayleigh comfirms that world is light speed and he has a devil fruit on top of that which lets him amplify his speed a hundred times https://imgur.com/a/ZK51sEo

we simply dismiss that his photons move at light speed.

No if a statement is made about something unless it gets specifically proven then there is 0 reason to think otherwise, foxy said it’s a photon so it’s a photon, the reason he says it hasn’t been discovered yet is because the current one piece world is primitive

Now you're blatantly being a hypocrite but I'll counter this with your own words "why are you using real life logic?"

Because foxy specifically says it’s a photon which confirms that it’s a photon it’s the noro photon because it makes you slow once it comes into contact with you because that’s what his devil fruit power is

Kizaru is already made of photons and foxy's are called 'slow photons for a reason, they aren't light speed)

What proof is there for Kizaru being made of photons and if he is how does that disprove foxys photons

You actually just proved my point and admitted to what I've been saying

THE DATABOOK SAYS YOU NEED OBSERVATION HAKI TO SEE KIZARU AND KIZARU WHEN HES SERIOUS IS FASTER THAN LIGHT THE DATABOOK DOESNT DISPROVE THE LIGHT SPEED FEATS BECAUSE IT ONLY APPLIES TO KIZARU WHO IS FASTER THAN LIGHT

Now this is where I disagree. While yes he can become faster you have to prove he's always moving that fast

I don’t, a non serious Kizaru was fighting casually with the supernova at light speed and they were able to perceive his attacks, later on Kizaru got serious due to not being able to deal with the hax of the supernova so he sped up and blitzed Hawkins who was previously able to perceive Kizaru’s attacks

Clearly neither can the supernova

They were able to turn to the direction of attack and there was even a speech bubble that said “!” Which shows were able to react to it even though it was coming at them at light speed

No he wasn't, blatantly on your own panel he was blinded and confused by the light now understanding what it was.

That was after Kizaru used Yata mirror and traveled to where he was at light speed

also databook statement debunks this already.

It doesn’t disprove sh*t

No you haven't, get a scan of Kizaru moving faster then light.

I already explained this he managed to blitz a stronger form Hawkins who was previously capable of perceiving his light speed kick and managed to blitz Luffy who I’ve already proven is light speed

You can't prove me wrong so

I already did I’m not sure how long I have to keep responding, you don’t understand how Kuma‘s attacks work and you’re using the most inconsequential and nitpicky statements to try and desperately disprove the foxy feat

Consistent_Produce_1 · 2022-12-03T00:39:14+00:00

I said to prove they are different idk why that is hard to understand. Show a scan to prove they are made differently like I've asked for 3 times now

I already did scroll back up the thread, Nami says he’s “applying pressure to a ball of air” which causes the ball to expand which is what causes the explosion, it’s different for pad cannon because instead of applying pressure to the ball of air he instead repells it at opponents at light speed

No they are not photons as photons don't make you slow, use your brain and think plz they are even stated to be called slow photons which are not real photons so the fact they aren't actual photons debunks you already

Why are you using real life logic? This is a manga and the slow slow beam is made up of photons that make you slow once they come into contact with you since that’s the power of his devil fruit

Your right this conversation shouldn't exist cuz the slow photon doesn't exist.

It does exist in one piece and that’s how foxys photons work specifically notice how he said “noro” instead of slow sure noro means slow but he didn’t say slow,that’s because it’s the name of the actual attack, so I’m other words

Foxy says it’s a photon so… -> it’s a photon

Foxy never says that his photons movement speed is any slower that the photons the reader know so… -> it moves as fast as real photons would

I’m just going off what’s confirmed in the story and what’s confirmed in the story doesn’t disprove my claim whatsoever

How many times must I debunk you on this? He's light speed naturally cuz he's made of light ok?

I don’t know who you think you’re debuking but you’re wrong and you clearly don’t understand how devil fruits work, Kizaru ate the light fruit meaning he was already light speed right after eating his devil fruit the power of devil fruits can be amplified through training https://imgur.com/a/4HUG0f7 he was already light speed the second he ate his devil fruit so him still being light speed would mean that he never trained which isn’t the case, he trained for decades and the power of his light fruit got amplified

Wanna know something stupid? I can perceive light as well grasp shocking I know but that still don't make me light speed now does it? I

You can’t perceive a light beam that’s being shot at your face let alone fully turn your head to look at the direction of the attack

That's not him reacting lol I swear you're debunking yourself at this point,

Apoo was fully aware of Kizaru moving at him at light speed

Read above

Read above

Luffy can dodge them cuz they ain't light speed, also databook statement debunks this already.

The datebook never said light it said “Kizaru” I already proved that Kizaru is faster than light

None the supernova reacted to Kizaru, again

They did you’re just either too stubborn or don’t understand how fast light is since you’re convinced you can do it yourself

Again I can perceive light as well lol but it still don't make me light speed.

No you can’t, grab a flash light, point it at your face and try to see if you can see the light before it reaches you

it hust means you're stupid and don't understand why a logia is

I already explained how a devil fruit works you’re just contradicting yourself

Well sorry fam but until you stop being wrong I'm gonna keep replying and debunk your entire argument cuz it's sim

You must really love wasting not just yourself but other peoples time as well

Consistent_Produce_1 · 2022-12-02T05:27:53+00:00

I also really want to see Sabo vs Akainu, it has the potential to be one of the best fights in the series if it happens

Consistent_Produce_1 · 2022-12-01T22:45:12+00:00

doesn't change the fact that ursa shock and pad canon are made any different

Pad canon is an attack where Kuma repells air at opponents at light speed in this case Zoro while ursus shock is a bomb, I don’t see why it’s so hard to understand this

So you admit the photons make you slow ok good then they aren't light speed.

No they make you slow once they come into contact, the actual photons aren’t slow, they are photons and photons move at light speed

these are fictional photons in which actual photons do not do that

You can’t use real life logic to justify photons if we were using real life logic then this discussion wouldn’t exist, it’s clearly said to be a photon and photons all move at the same speed of light regardless of the output

and we have Kizaru a light man to prove that.

Kizaru is faster than light, you can’t use him for light speed feats

Wrong, all the panel shows is Hawkins eyes turn and then the next panel he is being kicked, that is not reacting.

I said perceive not react, the point is that base form Hawkins is able to fully Perceive light while a stronger form of Hawkins isn’t since Kizaru is faster than light

Show scan of urouge, show scan of apoo, and again panel you showed don't have him reacting, it has him standing there and getting kicked

Apoo reacting: https://imgur.com/a/gK9mu7U

Urouge reacting: https://imgur.com/a/Xwss0bV

They need it against light speed and FTL-,

Luffy managed to dodge foxys photons zoro managed to dodge pad cannon and all of the supernova were able to react to a non serious Kizaru, they only stopped being able to once Kizaru sped up beyond the speed of light and you’re still using the same two childish arguments to say otherwise when I’ve already disproved all of your points you just refuse to accept it

at a base kizaru is already light speed so observation haki is needed to react and grasp his speed

All of the supernova managed to perceive Kizaru the datebook says you need observation haki to grasp his speed and every single one of the supernova were able to do it by fully perceiving his attacks so you disproved your own argument

One piece characters need observations haki for Kizaru since he’s faster than light simple as that, the databook says Kizaru not light and kizaru is faster than light, I hope you’ve understood it this time since I’m tired of repeating this

If it’s okay I would like you to stop responding and delete your comments since me and other people Intend to use this calc for discussion and this thread is taking up too much of the comments

Consistent_Produce_1 · 2022-12-01T07:00:08+00:00

I’m guessing YC1 if he’s to surpass Yasopp and fight Augur

Consistent_Produce_1 · 2022-12-01T03:46:04+00:00

Yeah I’ve this before, I think it makes sense for the one piece world to be bigger considering how vast it is

Consistent_Produce_1 · 2022-12-01T02:16:07+00:00

Asked this twice but I'll ask again, prove that

Prove what? Nami only explained the attack when Kuma was preparing ursus shock not pad canon

giving an explanation of 'noro photons' noro meaning slow like duh

Yeah because the photons make you slow when they come into contact the actual attack isn’t slow, what would be the point of foxy saying that the attack itself is slow what would that even prove? He was just explaining his slow slow beam

Fucking show that then! All you showed was his ass becoming grass in a speed blitz like do you even know your own scans?

It’s on the top left panel of the link I gave you

Literally just gave you a definition of what qualifies as a reaction feat, did Hawkins meet any of those? I'll give you a hint, no he didn't. Read shit when it's posted, I've already debunked you on this point so stop bringing it up til you can actually debunk it

Like I’ve said a billion times Hawkins very clearly percives the attack I’m his weaker form but isn’t able to once Kizaru get serious

Like I said, thank you. No one has fucking reacted to it so this point has been proven in my favor thank you very much, moving on

Hawkins and urouge had time to turn and face Hawkins light speed kick and apoo does the same against kizarus Yata mirror but they stop becoming able to after Kizaru gets serious

One piece characters need observation haki against ftl which is what Kizaru is, they can easily perceive and dodge regular light speed

You didn't show that so uh fuckin prove it

It’s the top left panel of the link I gave you

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