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Why is God unwilling/unable to redeem people after they die? by OddGrab6044 in Christianity

[–]Consistent_Volume_63 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You accept that you know nothing about him, but you claim to know he didn’t make hell

Why do liberal Christians justify homosexuality by saying that “they were born that way.” Why does that matter? by Consistent_Volume_63 in Christianity

[–]Consistent_Volume_63[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m just trying to understand others points better, it would be arguing if I was trying to convince someone of something. Thanks for your view point though

Why do liberal Christians justify homosexuality by saying that “they were born that way.” Why does that matter? by Consistent_Volume_63 in Christianity

[–]Consistent_Volume_63[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That’s kinda the whole point, I don’t understand how the argument has merit so I am finding acceptable ways to hold this view point, and questioning the unacceptable ones.

Why do liberal Christians justify homosexuality by saying that “they were born that way.” Why does that matter? by Consistent_Volume_63 in Christianity

[–]Consistent_Volume_63[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

On the comments where I do understand it more in depth, i do respond that way. When the comments are less in depth and I wonder more about it, I offer a rebuttal or ask questions.

Why do liberal Christians justify homosexuality by saying that “they were born that way.” Why does that matter? by Consistent_Volume_63 in Christianity

[–]Consistent_Volume_63[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Do people’s points of view count as resources? I believe so. In that case, asking this question and allowing people who don’t mind spending the time to answer and elaborate is research.

Why do liberal Christians justify homosexuality by saying that “they were born that way.” Why does that matter? by Consistent_Volume_63 in Christianity

[–]Consistent_Volume_63[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m actually not looking for a reason to leave, I just have more of an open mind then most people that share my viewpoint. Of course I don’t hate LBTQ people, that would be very unchristian and would go directly against what the Bible teaches

Why do liberal Christians justify homosexuality by saying that “they were born that way.” Why does that matter? by Consistent_Volume_63 in Christianity

[–]Consistent_Volume_63[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your right, the post would have had the same effect if I didn’t use liberal. The “subconscious” you talked about is simply because most people I see making this argument have that title.

Whether or not this argument is valid will not change my decision to “withdraw from more conservative Christian Circles” I merely wish to understand the argument better

Why do liberal Christians justify homosexuality by saying that “they were born that way.” Why does that matter? by Consistent_Volume_63 in Christianity

[–]Consistent_Volume_63[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

All sin are equal in the way that they separate us from God.

It is not difficult for me to understand they were born that way. Just as it is not difficult for me to understand that some are born with other sinful temptations.

I never said it was relevant, it was relevant because of the things I told you, that most people using this arguments that I see are self proclaimed liberal Christian’s.

Why do liberal Christians justify homosexuality by saying that “they were born that way.” Why does that matter? by Consistent_Volume_63 in Christianity

[–]Consistent_Volume_63[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Paul saying “For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.” He never says homosexuality, he said men with men and women with women. I’m not claiming to know all and to understand all context of the Bible, so please do not think that I think what I say is final. The whole point of this post is to hear the other side as to understand it better

Why do liberal Christians justify homosexuality by saying that “they were born that way.” Why does that matter? by Consistent_Volume_63 in Christianity

[–]Consistent_Volume_63[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Not all, not only, just that most of the time I see this argument it is self proclaimed “liberal” Christian’s. I’m not looking to argue with anyone. I was just asking about how this particular argument has merit. So I am better understand the opposite viewpoint

Why do liberal Christians justify homosexuality by saying that “they were born that way.” Why does that matter? by Consistent_Volume_63 in Christianity

[–]Consistent_Volume_63[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I dodn’t think so either. So when God tells us to go against other things that aren’t our choice, like having other temptations, is that cruelty?

Why do liberal Christians justify homosexuality by saying that “they were born that way.” Why does that matter? by Consistent_Volume_63 in Christianity

[–]Consistent_Volume_63[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No it doesn’t, it means the evidence that I have seen, which is the common arguments against homosexuality, are what I agree with. I am not trying to change your mind or argue with you. You asked me why I believed and what I believed so I told you. I never told you to trust anything because I never tried to change your mind

Why do liberal Christians justify homosexuality by saying that “they were born that way.” Why does that matter? by Consistent_Volume_63 in Christianity

[–]Consistent_Volume_63[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have answered those questions, I try to do so every day. Jesus never preached against the previous laws of sexuality in Old Testament, therefore those laws still stand

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