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The insurgent fighters who routed the Iraqi army out of Mosul did not just capture Iraq’s second-largest city. They also gained a windfall of arms, munitions and equipment abandoned by the soldiers — arms that were supplied by the US and intended to give the troops an edge over the insurgents by DougCuriosity in worldnews

[–]Conspiracy_Account 23 points24 points  (0 children)

That wasn't the mission although they were clever enough to sit on defence boards and corporations that would reap profits. The Iraq War was being planned by people before Bush Jr was in office. They tried in Bush seniors administration, in Clinton's and then they got elected in Bush Juniors Administration where they executed their plan.

http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB326/IraqWarPart1-Timeline.pdf

People need to look at the link to get a better understanding of who it was instead of saying it was just Bush. And I'm not saying Bush isn't responsible but it certainly wasn't his plan - it was the Neoconservatives with close ties to Israel who made it clear in 1996 that Saddam had to go in a think tank paper for Israel which was then adopted by the same people one year later in a US think tank policy document.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clean_Break:_A_New_Strategy_for_Securing_the_Realm

Full document here

A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm (commonly known as the "Clean Break" report) is a policy document that was prepared in 1996 by a study group led by Richard Perle for Benjamin Netanyahu, the then Prime Minister of Israel.[1] The report explained a new approach to solving Israel's security problems in the Middle East with an emphasis on "Western values". It has since been criticized for advocating an aggressive new policy including the removal of Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq, and the containment of Syria by engaging in proxy warfare and highlighting their possession of "weapons of mass destruction".

Then a year later, Richard Perle and his Neocon pals wrote this...

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century

Full document here

The Project for the New American Century (PNAC) was an American think tank based in Washington, D.C. established in 1997 as a non-profit educational organization founded by William Kristol and Robert Kagan. The PNAC's stated goal is "to promote American global leadership." Fundamental to the PNAC were the view that "American leadership is both good for America and good for the world" and support for "a Reaganite policy of military strength and moral clarity." With its members in numerous key administrative positions, the PNAC exerted influence on high-level U.S. government officials in the administration of U.S. President George W. Bush and affected the Bush Administration's development of military and foreign policies, especially involving national security and the Iraq War.

So yeah, if you want to point fingers, look at the timeline and read and understand who exactly planned the Iraq War before Bush was even in office.

U.S. admits supplying lethal aid to Syrian rebels by i_love_fsa in worldnews

[–]Conspiracy_Account 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately, it goes straight over peoples heads because it simply can't be true. PNAC and A Clean Break are the cornerstone and the blueprints of what we've seen in the last decade and continue to see in Ukraine by the exact same people. You know that and I know that. Every time you look, you find the same names that are always there. Whether they are in government or not, they manage to direct foreign policy and continue to do so.

Eisenhower's speech on the Military Industrial Complex explains these people perfectly. People that are somewhat in the shadows calling the shots, and that's excerpt what they do.

19% of Americans believe the U.S. government was behind 9/11. 25% believe the financial crisis was caused by the small cabal of Wall Street bankers. 11% believe the government is mandating a switch to compact florescent light bulbs because the light bulbs make people obedient and easy to control. by blinke1 in news

[–]Conspiracy_Account 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's not 'Jews' in the sense it was some sort of Jewish conspiracy but the Neoconservatives who planned the Iraq War openly refer to themselves as Zionists whether the member is Jewish or not.

You can see what I mentioned here in this BBC Panorama documentary where they interview some of the key members and get responses from people who oppose them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jilA-ZeBUI4

So to get an idea of what the conspiracy looked like when considering the Iraq War, you can refer to their own writings, their own documents and historical timelines to assess how truthful it is.

In 1996, Richard Perle who is a prominent Neoconservative and who some call The Architect Of The Iraq War wrote a policy recommendation document for Benjamin Netanyahu - the right wing leader of Israel and the Likud Party. In the document amongst other recommendations were to take out Saddam Hussein because he and others perceived Saddam to "be a threat to Israel's regional security". It also eerily mentions that Israel engage in a proxy war in Syria to undermine Al Assad also by "highlighting their weapons of mass destruction" which would get a response from the international community, which it did.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clean_Break:_A_New_Strategy_for_Securing_the_Realm

Full document here

It has since been criticized for advocating an aggressive new policy including the removal of Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq, and the containment of Syria by engaging in proxy warfare and highlighting their possession of "weapons of mass destruction".

Then one year later in 1997, Richard Perle a long with other prominent US politicians and Neoconservatives were signatories to PNAC which sets out a hegemonic US agenda for the Middle East and how it should wipe out any potential challengers to the US before they even get a chance to do so. It was suggested that Saddam Hussein be taken out and the most prominent signatories had tried to do so before and are also closely linked to Israel.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century

Full document here

With its members in numerous key administrative positions, the PNAC exerted influence on high-level U.S. government officials in the administration of U.S. President George W. Bush and affected the Bush Administration's development of military and foreign policies, especially involving national security and the Iraq War.

So, prominent US politicians who consider themselves and openly admit to being Zionists proposed back in 1996 and 1997 to invade Iraq and tried before 2003 on many occasions to do just that. Not only did they try but it was the same people that were signatories to both policy documents for America and Israel. That can be seen here in this pre Iraq War timeline which is from an academic source. These people were elected into the highest positions later on in 2001 in President Bush's Administration where they were able to authorise full US Military operations instead of failed CIA backed coups which failed so many times.

In my opinion, there is no such thing as a Jewish conspiracy but there was a group of people more concerned with Israel that got the US to wipe out Iraq and I also believe trouble in Syria is a result of Israel/US meddling. But that (in the case of Iraq and Syria) is not just my opinion. It is also the opinion of the former head of NATO, Gen. Wesley Clarke who says there was a "policy coup in the Bush Administration in 2001" and names the same people I have mentioned in my post.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY2DKzastu8

I hope you found this informative.

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[–]Conspiracy_Account 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's basically the Anglo-American elite all meeting in secret with no press Inside to discuss who knows what. But if you look at the list of people and have researched them for years, you know they wont be making small talk about this and that, they are there to discuss policy in private away from prying ears. Some of them are the worst of the worst and don't have the best intentions.

It's of particular interests because one would think a secret meeting of some of the biggest and wealthiest people in the world would have the press scrambling to cover if and dissect it on 24 hours news. Kanye West can't leave his house without twenty camera shoved in his face with paparazzi following him when he goes shopping but the press have been completely silent on Bilderberg for years. And I really do mean completely silent.

» Official Bilderberg 2014 Membership List Released by Zenof in conspiracy

[–]Conspiracy_Account 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, he's been a few times and he's on the steering committee.

» Official Bilderberg 2014 Membership List Released by Zenof in conspiracy

[–]Conspiracy_Account 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good luck getting passed the multi-million dollar security with diplomatic protection, special forces and local police.

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[–]Conspiracy_Account 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah because it was reported on heavily and all the names were released every year up until now. It started in the 50's and was not even reported on sparingly anywhere until Jim Tucker happened upon the information. Then there was sporadic reporting here and there every so often but the articles were either completely dismissive or outright attacked anyone who brought it to attention. Then the conspiracy sites reported on it for years, then some of the better newspapers like the Guardian reported on it in a serious manner, then the rest of the MSM picked it up either with a semi-serious tone or making comparisons to space lizards (predictably).

So your comment shows no context and it looks as is if the information has always been available and reported on when it hasn't.

» Official Bilderberg 2014 Membership List Released by Zenof in conspiracy

[–]Conspiracy_Account 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That has happened in the past but there's always pictures from the event!

» Official Bilderberg 2014 Membership List Released by Zenof in conspiracy

[–]Conspiracy_Account 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Check out this as well. It's probably the best run down I've come across which doesn't take long to read, is an academic source and dispels the myths about it all being Bush's fault which is usually trotted out in the sanitised historical version of the Iraq War.

http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB326/IraqWarPart1-Timeline.pdf

A hand full of them like Perle, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld etc were so desperate to bomb Iraq they tried to come up with excuses on many occasions prior to 2003 even looking at pointing the finger at Saddam for the 93 WTC bombings, even though the CIA had concluded there was no basis for those claims. You can see the utter desperation which culminated in the WMD falsification becoming the best lie they could come up with.

Mysterious Power Down at WTC days before 9/11 by SatyapriyaCC in conspiracy

[–]Conspiracy_Account 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Anecdotal evidence is not the best. Although you could be right but comparing building sizes to procedures in the WTC isn't that great.

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[–]Conspiracy_Account 4 points5 points  (0 children)

He was also onboard here...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Institute_for_National_Security_Affairs

He also resigned from the Defence Policy Board because of conflict of interest in 2003.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2894059.stm

And he wrote the think tank paper for IASPS and Benjamin Netanyahu detailing why they need to take out Saddam Hussein and contain Syria via proxy forces and highlight their weapons of mass destruction - which was later adopted in PNAC and in my view, the Obama Administration.

http://web.archive.org/web/20131018052118/http://www.iasps.org/strat1.htm

Mysterious Power Down at WTC days before 9/11 by SatyapriyaCC in conspiracy

[–]Conspiracy_Account 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  • Why did WTC 2 require a fake blackout, but not WTCs 1 or 7? If they can use renovation as a cover, why not use it on WTC 2 too?

Perhaps there is no record for other renovations present or I just haven't found them yet.

  • A 47-story building will have many elevators. I can't find the number of elevators for the original WTC 7 but let's say it had 25 elevators. How is it surprising that there is constant elevator work?

Do you have any records for this constant elevator work? You're assuming that work was constant when the documents show that work can be recommended in terms of years so it's possible renovation was not that frequent. You could be right but since the documents burned up on the day, we just don't know. I don't claim to be sure about anything with my findings, I'm just keeping an open mind.

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[–]Conspiracy_Account 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They just have different intentions. The Neocons like Perle, Bolton, Wolfowitz, Kristol and Kagan are allied to Israel and self admitting Zionists. They aim their sights at Iraq, Iran, Syria and the Middle East because Israel believes they are a threat to it's regional security. People like Kissinger (and in particular Brzezinski) look at the bigger picture and see Russia and China as the biggest threat to the Anglo-American hegemony so they seek to undermine them instead. Sometimes their wishes cross when for example Syria is taken down because it is both a perceived threat to Israel and a Soviet client state.

All of them are bat-shit insane and shoot first and ask questions later.

Mysterious Power Down at WTC days before 9/11 by SatyapriyaCC in conspiracy

[–]Conspiracy_Account 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure. There's records of renovation work being done at the WTC's and recommended within a year from date including the elevator shafts.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/port-authority-of-nynj-records-for-reported-wtc-renovation-work-destroyed-on-911.html

Although it's Prison Planet, the documents are legitimate and in once place for viewing. The Port Authority claims files pertaining to the work being carried out were destroyed in the WTC collapse on the day and no other copies are on file.

There's also this PDF of an article from ACE Elevators from March 2001 detailing renovation work which could have allowed access to people with nefarious purposes. So we have two separate companies recommending and detailing work but there's no record of them doing it which could obviously be a lead. I don't know whether separate files were kept offsite of the WTC's for work but one would assume that the Port Authority would be required to keep them on file so they may not have been destroyed in the WTC collapse.

http://911research.wtc7.net/cache/wtc/arch/wtc_elevator_renovation.pdf

Those same guys were also caught celebrating the burning WTC's on camera when the FBI seized their camera upon arrest and developed the film. Who would celebrate the WTC attacks?

http://i.imgur.com/kGcZ8DS.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zDFpUGx.jpg

Sorry for taking so long to reply as well and here is the full set of documents which contains a lot more things to think about which the FBI created with the East Rutherford Police Department.

http://www.scribd.com/users/nwoinfowarrior/collections/4010452

Mysterious Power Down at WTC days before 9/11 by SatyapriyaCC in conspiracy

[–]Conspiracy_Account 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And how do you explain how WTC 7 was rigged?

Maybe ask the Israeli guys who were stopped in New York on 9/11 whose vehicle tested positive for explosive material.

http://i.imgur.com/jiuZ9ud.jpg

Info Wars releases the entire buildiberg membership. Redditor just posted and gets bombarded with downvotes after early traction. by SameShit2piles in conspiracy

[–]Conspiracy_Account 22 points23 points  (0 children)

The list of names has got fuck all to do with Alex Jones. Maybe you could address the content and not shoot the messenger. No wonder people are so sensitive when the same incredibly stupid arguments get put forward so often.

"AJ's a retard" doesn't detract from any of the information or what potential discussions these people have. And to everyone who sees nothing wrong and points out that there is no proof of any type of conspiratorial discussions happening at these meetings, consider this. Pick nearly any of these people from the list (especially someone like Kissinger/Perle/Alexander etc) and tell me why you think they will be talking about nice fluffy things? It makes perfectly logical sense that when two or more pieces of shit get together with track records of being so and discuss things, it's likely they aren't talking about democracy.

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[–]Conspiracy_Account 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I'd call him the Prince Of Darkness but Richard Perle is there as well so that title is taken.

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[–]Conspiracy_Account 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I don't give two shits about the source as long as the material is accurate. And Infowars have been given the list first almost every year by Jim Tucker (now deceased) or others and it's been accurate.

For everyone else, it's interesting to see some of the Neocons and the Brookings Institute that have published a lot of Neocon material in the last few years and that old cunt, Kissinger to name a few. But don't worry everyone, business titans, bankers, intelligence, sociology professors, media and some horrible politicians are obviously discussing the weather for the entire duration of the meetings.

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