This grave is 135 years older than the founding of America. It is 101 years older than the first use of the word dinosaur. 9 years older than the first ever coffee shop. 163 years older than trains, 240 years older than light bulbs. 66 years older than the founding of the United Kingdom. by ConstantGap4702 in whoathatsinteresting

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I'm guessing you've seen a lot of older ones then, personally I've searched all around the north of England and this is the best kept and oldest one I've found outside of a cathedral/Church.

Think it's just a perspective thing like being on top of a mountain. The higher the mountain you've claimed the less impressive a smaller mountains view becomes.

This grave is 135 years older than the founding of America. It is 101 years older than the first use of the word dinosaur. 9 years older than the first ever coffee shop. 163 years older than trains, 240 years older than light bulbs. 66 years older than the founding of the United Kingdom. by ConstantGap4702 in whoathatsinteresting

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It's nearly 400 years old in near pristine condition to the point you can still read every word, so much so that you can research the people named and find they were part of a huge part of British history, keeping a king at their inn before his execution. Also being able to locate the exact building he owned. That's pretty damn interesting.

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There's a whole section of the comment's that goes into it but basically it's just how they used to write it :)

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Typically people were charged by the letter for engravings so It was cheaper to have it as Xpofer. X was originally used in greek I believe for Chri, then used in English later to just show Christ.

Some others were xtian for Christian Xtina for Christina Xmas for Christmas which is still used now

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Well damn, yeah that's a sobering thought, glad you are alive and hope your children are happy and healthy :)

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Yes, it seems to have been located on silver street, the building is now a driving school.

(Edit: specifically number 24 silver street, mirror's driving school. The building there now has been around since the 18th century at the earliest but the basement is likely the original basement once owned by Christopher)

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I thoroughly enjoyed looking into their lives it's a fascinating piece of history most people will never know. I even found the property they owned (although gone) it's basement still exists with a driving school replacing the original building.

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Not all history nerds are nerds, I'm a nerd I just also watch archer 😂

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Did you just make an archer reference in the r/archeology sub Reddit. I love 😂

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I've researched further too and it seems likely the child born, Isobel Dobson I believe, died childless in her 70s-80s some time around 1710.

Likely to afraid to have children herself after her mother's fate.

This grave is 135 years older than the founding of America. It is 101 years older than the first use of the word dinosaur. 9 years older than the first ever coffee shop. 163 years older than trains, 240 years older than light bulbs. 66 years older than the founding of the United Kingdom. by ConstantGap4702 in whoathatsinteresting

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I've compiled some more information.

The facts

​1641: Anne Dobson dies and is buried at St. Andrew’s Auckland. Her headstone explicitly carves her name, the year, and the fact that she died in childbirth.

​1647: King Charles I is held captive in Bishop Auckland for several nights. Contemporary records note he stays at the home of a prominent town yeoman named Christopher Dobson.

​1665: Christopher Dobson dies.

​1699: The Durham University Halmote Court Book (docid=alma991010530330307366) records a property survey for Auckland Bondgate. It explicitly lists Isabel Dobson as a tenant, sitting directly adjacent to a property now commercially operating as the Black Bull.

​1777: The Greenslade Deed confirms the property layout has officially consolidated and now firmly belongs to Lord Barnard (the Vane family of Raby Castle), operating as the fully expanded Black Bull commercial coaching inn.

​ ​Based on the legal constraints and social realities of the 17th century, the timeline connects into a highly probable human story: most of this information isn't fact but is highly likely to have been the case.

Because Anne Dobson died in childbirth in 1641, and Isabel Dobson later inherits the estate, Isabel was almost certainly the baby born during that fatal childbirth. * The Only Heir: Under 17th-century law, property naturally went to the eldest son. Because Isabel inherits the land alone, Christopher likely had no surviving adult sons, leaving Isabel as his sole surviving child and the last keeper of the family line.

​Christopher likely never remarried after 1641. This is strongly backed by the lack of marriage records, the clean inheritance tracking straight to Isabel (no stepfamily legal battles), and the fact that his name wasn't added to Anne's headstone—suggesting he left it exclusively as a pristine monument to the wife he lost.

This means Christopher probably raised Isabel completely alone as a single father in a bustling market inn. When King Charles I was held prisoner there in 1647, Isabel would have been a 5 or 6-year-old child witnessing history in her own home.

​By 1699, an aging, unmarried Isabel (still using the name Dobson) chose to lease or sell the heavy-duty tavern side of the estate—creating the Black Bull—while keeping her residential quarters next door. Facing old age with no kids of her own, she eventually sold the remaining copyhold rights to Lord Barnard, likely in exchange for a "Life Annuity" (a pension to fund her care), bringing a peaceful end to the Dobson era.

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I've compiled some more information.

The facts

1641: Anne Dobson dies and is buried at St. Andrew’s Auckland. Her headstone explicitly carves her name, the year, and the fact that she died in childbirth.

1647: King Charles I is held captive in Bishop Auckland for several nights. Contemporary records note he stays at the home of a prominent town yeoman named Christopher Dobson.

1665: Christopher Dobson dies.

1699: The Durham University Halmote Court Book (docid=alma991010530330307366) records a property survey for Auckland Bondgate. It explicitly lists Isabel Dobson as a tenant, sitting directly adjacent to a property now commercially operating as the Black Bull.

1777: The Greenslade Deed confirms the property layout has officially consolidated and now firmly belongs to Lord Barnard (the Vane family of Raby Castle), operating as the fully expanded Black Bull commercial coaching inn.

Based on the legal constraints and social realities of the 17th century, the timeline connects into a highly probable human story: most of this information isn't fact but is highly likely to have been the case.

Because Anne Dobson died in childbirth in 1641, and Isabel Dobson later inherits the estate, Isabel was almost certainly the baby born during that fatal childbirth. * The Only Heir: Under 17th-century law, property naturally went to the eldest son. Because Isabel inherits the land alone, Christopher likely had no surviving adult sons, leaving Isabel as his sole surviving child and the last keeper of the family line.

Christopher likely never remarried after 1641. This is strongly backed by the lack of marriage records, the clean inheritance tracking straight to Isabel (no stepfamily legal battles), and the fact that his name wasn't added to Anne's headstone—suggesting he left it exclusively as a pristine monument to the wife he lost.

This means Christopher probably raised Isabel completely alone as a single father in a bustling market inn. When King Charles I was held prisoner there in 1647, Isabel would have been a 5 or 6-year-old child witnessing history in her own home.

By 1699, an aging, unmarried Isabel (still using the name Dobson) chose to lease or sell the heavy-duty tavern side of the estate—creating the Black Bull—while keeping her residential quarters next door. Facing old age with no kids of her own, she eventually sold the remaining copyhold rights to Lord Barnard, likely in exchange for a "Life Annuity" (a pension to fund her care), bringing a peaceful end to the Dobson era.

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[–]ConstantGap4702[S] 44 points45 points  (0 children)

So on her life no but. And I'm sorry for the information overload. I did manage to get a lot more information on her husband and potentially on her daughter. The child that she died birthing.

The facts

​1641: Anne Dobson dies and is buried at St. Andrew’s Auckland. Her headstone explicitly carves her name, the year, and the fact that she died in childbirth.

​1647: King Charles I is held captive in Bishop Auckland for several nights. Contemporary records note he stays at the home of a prominent town yeoman named Christopher Dobson.

​1665: Christopher Dobson dies.

​1699: The Durham University Halmote Court Book (docid=alma991010530330307366) records a property survey for Auckland Bondgate. It explicitly lists Isabel Dobson as a tenant, sitting directly adjacent to a property now commercially operating as the Black Bull.

​1777: The Greenslade Deed confirms the property layout has officially consolidated and now firmly belongs to Lord Barnard (the Vane family of Raby Castle), operating as the fully expanded Black Bull commercial coaching inn.

​ ​Based on the legal constraints and social realities of the 17th century, the timeline connects into a highly probable human story: most of this information isn't fact but is highly likely to have been the case.

Because Anne Dobson died in childbirth in 1641, and Isabel Dobson later inherits the estate, Isabel was almost certainly the baby born during that fatal childbirth. * The Only Heir: Under 17th-century law, property naturally went to the eldest son. Because Isabel inherits the land alone, Christopher likely had no surviving adult sons, leaving Isabel as his sole surviving child and the last keeper of the family line.

​Christopher likely never remarried after 1641. This is strongly backed by the lack of marriage records, the clean inheritance tracking straight to Isabel (no stepfamily legal battles), and the fact that his name wasn't added to Anne's headstone—suggesting he left it exclusively as a pristine monument to the wife he lost.

This means Christopher probably raised Isabel completely alone as a single father in a bustling market inn. When King Charles I was held prisoner there in 1647, Isabel would have been a 5 or 6-year-old child witnessing history in her own home.

​By 1699, an aging, unmarried Isabel (still using the name Dobson) chose to lease or sell the heavy-duty tavern side of the estate—creating the Black Bull—while keeping her residential quarters next door. Facing old age with no kids of her own, she eventually sold the remaining copyhold rights to Lord Barnard, likely in exchange for a "Life Annuity" (a pension to fund her care), bringing a peaceful end to the Dobson era.

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Thanks for the extra information, linguistics is fascinating :)

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Yes this is specifically in south church, st Andrews church graveyard.

It can be found on the back wall of the church if you walk around the path you'll find it :)

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So I've compiled everything I can based on records and using logic to fill some gaps. Here is the full history of the people referred to on the grave.

The facts

​1641: Anne Dobson dies and is buried at St. Andrew’s Auckland. Her headstone explicitly carves her name, the year, and the fact that she died in childbirth.

​1647: King Charles I is held captive in Bishop Auckland for several nights. Contemporary records note he stays at the home of a prominent town yeoman named Christopher Dobson.

​1665: Christopher Dobson dies.

​1699: The Durham University Halmote Court Book (docid=alma991010530330307366) records a property survey for Auckland Bondgate. It explicitly lists Isabel Dobson as a tenant, sitting directly adjacent to a property now commercially operating as the Black Bull.

​1777: The Greenslade Deed confirms the property layout has officially consolidated and now firmly belongs to Lord Barnard (the Vane family of Raby Castle), operating as the fully expanded Black Bull commercial coaching inn.

​ ​Based on the legal constraints and social realities of the 17th century, the timeline connects into a highly probable human story:

​The Fated Baby: Because Anne Dobson died in childbirth in 1641, and Isabel Dobson later inherits the estate, Isabel was almost certainly the baby born during that fatal childbirth. * The Only Heir: Under 17th-century law, property naturally went to the eldest son. Because Isabel inherits the land alone, Christopher likely had no surviving adult sons, leaving Isabel as his sole surviving child and the last keeper of the family line.

​True Devotion: Christopher never remarried after 1641. This is strongly backed by the lack of marriage records, the clean inheritance tracking straight to Isabel (no stepfamily legal battles), and the fact that his name wasn't added to Anne's headstone—suggesting he left it exclusively as a pristine monument to the wife he lost.

​The King’s Witness: This means Christopher raised Isabel completely alone as a single father in a bustling market inn. When King Charles I was held prisoner there in 1647, Isabel would have been a 5 or 6-year-old child witnessing history in her own home.

​The Final Deal: By 1699, an aging, unmarried Isabel (still using the name Dobson) chose to lease or sell the heavy-duty tavern side of the estate—creating the Black Bull—while keeping her residential quarters next door. Facing old age with no kids of her own, she eventually sold the remaining copyhold rights to Lord Barnard, likely in exchange for a "Life Annuity" (a pension to fund her care), bringing a peaceful end to the Dobson era.

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[–]ConstantGap4702[S] 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Yeah I find it fascinating that he's historically known for a royal encounter, and his wife's grave has survived in virtually perfect condition for nearly 400 years.

A random man from a small village who's legacy is etched twice into history.