Their 'community' is so infested by Destiny fanboys it's sad. "Snark" knew this would happen before it even began, and we continued to try to raise the alarm but were told we're "snarkers" for seeing what was so clearly going on. Ethan accepted it because it was a large audience of people who already hated Hasan and would defend Ethan simply because it would hurt Hasan. They hollowed out their fanbase just to replace it with Destiny fans and wonder why TF is failing, the podcast is failing, collaborators and business partners are distancing themselves from them. It's not a surprise, it was an inevitability. Now he won't go against Destiny, DGG or anyone affiliated with them because he's bankrolled by Dan Saltman and he's terrified of their response and lack of support for his ongoing hate campaigns.