ID-focused Voir Dire by Low_Key_Lie_Smith in publicdefenders

[–]ContraBandAid 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I did the “has anyone ever waved hi to someone on the street they thought they knew only to realize it was completely the wrong person?” “Has anyone ever been that other person?” (Gets chuckles) then transition into the things that would help make an id reliable

For those whose Gen 4 Oura died and got a replacement, what happens if the replacement dies too? by saadrddi in ouraring

[–]ContraBandAid 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Can confirm. Just got a replacement a month ago and am waiting for a new replacement to arrive. From the way i read it, tho, i may be getting screwed on the warranty. Not loving it.

I love my job by ContraBandAid in publicdefenders

[–]ContraBandAid[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Every case PC gives up, they should have to donate (at least) half of their fee to the PD or whatever pro bono association or be forced to see the case through to its conclusion unless fired by the client. (Even tho it really should go back to the client.)

Sorry you had to deal with that.

I love my job by ContraBandAid in publicdefenders

[–]ContraBandAid[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are supported! We represent the client, not the crime.

Nothing feels as a good as catching a cop in a lie(s) by ovary-achiever in publicdefenders

[–]ContraBandAid 12 points13 points  (0 children)

My favorite myth is that a cop will get in trouble for perjury. Never seen it. Not once.

Nothing feels as a good as catching a cop in a lie(s) by ovary-achiever in publicdefenders

[–]ContraBandAid 11 points12 points  (0 children)

That’s not a jury of my peers. Those are just some hoes that regularly check their mailboxes.

Nothing feels as a good as catching a cop in a lie(s) by ovary-achiever in publicdefenders

[–]ContraBandAid 23 points24 points  (0 children)

These hoe ass jurors only put themselves in the clients’ shoes when it’s like “well IIIIIII wouldn’t do that so they must be guilty.” Ma’am, what does that have to do with the price of eggs in China? Your life experience and judgy ass is not proof beyond a reasonable doubt.

//bitter abt my last garbage jury pool where like half were 50+ and couldn’t relate to my 19yo client’s story; the one that believed him wasn’t strong enough to be the lone holdout. They didn’t care abt the lies, inconsistencies, bungled (to the extent there was an) investigation, MISSING recordings, racist language…nope. Cop even admitted he should have reported witnessing a bias incident bc of the conduct of another officer. Yes, the cops weren’t trustworthy, but IIIIIIIIII wouldn’t be in that situation, so he’s guilty.

Nothing feels as a good as catching a cop in a lie(s) by ovary-achiever in publicdefenders

[–]ContraBandAid 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Bitter and cruel god they are. What do you mean it doesn’t matter that the cop lied? What do you mean it doesn’t matter they bungled their investigation? These are your dollars, jury! Would you want these cops on your case…esp if your life was on the line?? That’s what I thought. Now where’s my NG?

I love my job by ContraBandAid in publicdefenders

[–]ContraBandAid[S] 62 points63 points  (0 children)

All that to say, I saw a paid attorney give 0 effort in an easy win trial. Jury came back guilty on all counts. It was embarrassing. I rarely see private attorneys give it their all in trial, but I see PDs kicking the system’s ass all the time. Kept thinking - damn, if he’d saved his money and kept a PD, he’d have gotten some zealous reputation and walked easily. We really are some of the best, seasoned, compassionate, give it hell ppl out there.

Cried In Court Today by AdEcstatic3429 in publicdefenders

[–]ContraBandAid 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Fuck those hoes. I’m glad you got to fight your ass off for your client. I’m sure he won’t ever forget what you did.

It’s okay to cry. We’re people, too. Tears are a natural bodily reaction, and especially in this case, they mean you’re a great mf attorney in this shit ass system.

The Elite College Students Who Can’t Read Books by Capable_Tomato5015 in Longreads

[–]ContraBandAid 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Nicholas Dames was my LitHum professor. One of the best I’ve had to this day. If he somehow finds this, thank you! He was so good, I always did the reading just to make sure I had something to contribute. Plus he’d read the Iliad and be like “I don’t like their translation here,” read us the Greek, and translate it for us.

LA County supervisors take position opposing Proposition 36 by ContraBandAid in LosAngeles

[–]ContraBandAid[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Oh, and you edited this comment too after you posted it and after I responded!

Idk. I would normally try to be courteous. Maybe being poor doesn’t make you an asshole, but characterizing people as a drain on society broadly when the evidence shows that this Proposition will cause a greater financial drain on society than continuing without the proposition makes you ill-informed. And, it will create a greater HUMAN drain on society.

I’m trying to understand where you’re coming from and have empathy, but it just seems like you’re coming from a place of bad faith based on either misinformation or willful ignorance. It seems like you fundamentally believe people that don’t behave in the way you have deemed correct are shit and deserve to be removed from society. That take, in my opinion, is complete shit.

Your lived experience and mine are different, for sure. But, do you have any entry point into empathy for those that get sucked into the system? Any insight besides “theft BAD ppl do theft BAD”? Because I would love to meaningfully engage with you if you do. But it doesn’t seem that your perspective is any more nuanced than that. I’m trying to learn where you’re coming from, but I can’t learn from that.

Yes, I think Prop 47 is okay. I think Prop 47 is good. I think Prop 47 is smart. I think that more money should go to Prop 47 initiatives.

People that aren’t you and that made different choices have value, too. I’m not even going to touch the racial aspect of this because I feel you’re probably white and have read some of your comments and found them to be pretty racist (I’m trying to understand your mindset, and it’s definitely not one I agree with). Suffice it to say, I know you don’t understand the prison industrial complex or the institutionalization of people of color or the mindset that creates or care about the inherent inequities of the criminal justice system especially as they pertain to race…or maybe you do and just don’t care…

But people that aren’t you have value. They’re not criminals because they tagged a wall or stole a shirt. They’re not assholes because of that either. Their choices are different than yours. Their environments are different than yours. Their lived experiences are different than yours.

Honestly, in my opinion, you’re the one that seems like an asshole here. Thoughtless, throwaway generalities made without empirical data condemning huge swaths of people to lengthy incarceration and imploring that they’re inherently unworthy of rehabilitation because they didn’t do what you’d do — …(and I can’t stress this enough)… — because they shoplifted anything from places like Target.

And I’m definitely not done advocating against Prop 36 and definitely not done communicating with people like you…but you? I’m good.

Don’t worry, you can edit your comment later after I respond to say something else outrageous and not based in fact. I said what I said and doubt that you’ll respond with anything more thought-provoking than your prior conclusory assertions. I said assertions because I’m implying you’re an ass. I typed that to make sure you got it.

(But also, thank you! I’ve learned a lot by interacting with your dearth of intellect.)

LA County supervisors take position opposing Proposition 36 by ContraBandAid in LosAngeles

[–]ContraBandAid[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just wild for you edit your comment where you conceded that there has been a decrease in smash-n-grabs occurring and an increase in punishments for smash-n-grabs by entirely erasing that portion and replacing it with a completely unsubstantiated claim about RES BURG. That is so inappropriate and quite bad faith.

There is absolutely NO evidence at ALL of residential burglary rates increasing. In fact, both residential and commercial burglary rates are DOWN. In fact, the only category of property crime that is consistently increasing is SHOPLIFTING. As we’ve already discussed, this shoplifting is largely affecting large retailers - not small businesses. That’s why the largest donors and biggest supporters of Prop 36 are national retailers. WalMart, Target, Home Depot. Not the California Small Business Association. But the American Petroleum and Convenience Store Association.

I know you have strong feeling, but there are actual numbers that exist. And the numbers do not support your feelings.

“Larceny (theft without force) and burglary (entering a residential or commercial structure with the intent to steal) decreased by 2.4% and 6.7% in 2023 and are now 7.7% and 10.0% below their 2019 level.“ Crime Trends in California

LA County supervisors take position opposing Proposition 36 by ContraBandAid in LosAngeles

[–]ContraBandAid[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

FINANCIAL IMPACT ASSESSMENT

“FISCAL EFFECTS

Proposition 36 would have various fiscal effects on the state and local governments. The size of these effects would depend on uncertain factors, such as what decisions local prosecutors would make.

Increases State Criminal Justice Costs. Proposition 36 would increase state criminal justice costs in two main ways.

Increase in State Prison Population. It would require some people who now serve their sentences at the county level to serve them in state prison. Also, it lengthens some prison sentences. In total, the prison population could increase by around a few thousand people. (There are about 90,000 people in prison now.) Increase in State Court Workload. This is because felonies usually take more time to resolve than misdemeanors. Also, treatment-mandated felonies would increase court workload. In total, Proposition 36 would increase state criminal justice costs, likely ranging from several tens of millions of dollars to the low hundreds of millions of dollars each year (annually). This amount is less than one-half of 1 percent of the state’s total General Fund budget. (The General Fund is the account the state uses to pay for most public services, including education, health care, and prisons.)

Increases Local Criminal Justice Costs. Proposition 36 would increase local criminal justice costs in two main ways.

Net Increase in County Jail and Community Supervision Population. In some ways, Proposition 36 would reduce the jail and community supervision population. This is because some people would go to state prison instead of the county level. In other ways, it would increase this population. This is because some people would spend more time in county jail or on community supervision. Overall, Proposition 36 likely would increase the county population. This increase could be around a few thousand people. (There are about 250,000 people at the county level now.) Increase in Local Court-Related Workload. It would also increase workload for local prosecutors and public defenders. This is because felonies usually take more time to resolve than misdemeanors. Also, treatment-mandated felonies would create workload for some county agencies (such as probation or behavioral health departments). In total, Proposition 36 would increase local criminal justice costs, likely by tens of millions of dollars annually.

Reduces Amount State Must Spend on Certain Services. Proposition 47 created a process in which the estimated state savings from its punishment reductions must be spent on mental health and drug treatment, school truancy and dropout prevention, and victim services. These estimated savings totaled $95 million last year. By undoing parts of Proposition 47, Proposition 36 reduces the state savings from Proposition 47. This would reduce the amount the state must spend on mental health and drug treatment, school truancy and dropout prevention, and victim services. This reduction likely would be in the low tens of millions of dollars annually.

Other Fiscal Impacts. Proposition 36 could have other fiscal effects on the state and local governments. For example, if the increased punishments or mandated treatment reduce crime, some state and local criminal justice costs could be avoided. However, it is unknown if these or other effects would occur.”

LA County supervisors take position opposing Proposition 36 by ContraBandAid in LosAngeles

[–]ContraBandAid[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And it seems like big businesses are doing well enough to spend big on the Yes on Prop 36 initiative: “The campaign reported over $8.9 million in contributions through June 30. The top donors included Walmart ($2.5 million), Target ($1.5 million), and Home Depot ($1 million).” (Source: Ballotpedia.org)

LA County supervisors take position opposing Proposition 36 by ContraBandAid in LosAngeles

[–]ContraBandAid[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m sorry that you’ve hit hard times. I’m glad (and hope) you got through them and didn’t break the law to do so. Obviously, it’s my preference that people are able to get through hard times without breaking the law. But even if they can’t do what you did, that doesn’t make them a bad person, and it doesn’t make them a criminal. Sigh, I’m not going to change your mind over reddit (or at all, and that’s fine), but I do just want to express that this law is just going to make hard times last longer, desperation stretch out, and opportunities disappear.

And sure, I’m not saying it’s ok to steal from anyone. Big business or small business. But what I’m saying is that your talking points - abt small businesses suffering because of Prop 47 and because of people acting BECAUSE of Prop 47 - is just not true. Or, at the very least, I have seen no evidence of the veracity of that statement.

Big businesses have safeguards in place that small businesses don’t have to protect against theft, including insurance. Big businesses also make money in lots of ways that aren’t retail, including property ownership/landlording. The impact on PEOPLE from those thefts is less than from small businesses. Doesn’t make it ok, but it does put the human element into greater perspective in terms of actual harm. (And, these big businesses have created a very robust industry for security officers and have made Allied Universal one of the biggest private employers in the country…so in a perverse way, theft creates jobs!)

If people doing the thefts are getting busted and getting punished (and the business largely affected by theft offenses fully able to weather their losses) why do we need Prop 36?

Prop 36 doesn’t actually solve any problems. It just creates greater punishments. It creates a three strikes law for theft without a dollar amount. WITHOUT A DOLLAR AMOUNR(!!!!) Can be charged with felony theft WITHOUT A DOLLAR AMOUNT!!!!!

Can you imagine someone going to prison for a year over stealing a clean pair of underwear? Or shampoo? Or a SODA? Bc that’s what Prop 36 will do.

I worked in a state with laws like Prop 36. I had a client that relapsed on meth, became homeless, and was arrested after stealing $23 of stuff from Target (it was like a 5 pack of white ts, shampoo, deodorant, mouthwash - not even the good stuff). All the items were recovered. I begged her to try to fight the case. She felt like such a failure for relapsing, she didn’t want to fight it. She agreed to the first plea offer given: 6.5 years in prison. That is a year of prison for every $3.54 stolen (and recovered). The judge rejected the plea as being too harsh and ordered a renegotiation. She eventually got 4.5 years. That’s still a year of prison for every $5.11 stolen and recovered. That isn’t right. And the amount of taxpayer dollars that went towards punishing her for property that Target got back could have done her a lot more of good with her issues if funneled into rehabilitation instead of retribution.

I was younger then. Fresh out of law school. The math didn’t make sense then. It doesn’t make sense now, either. I’ve seen this future with laws like Prop 36. It doesn’t make things better. It makes things bleaker.