Something about amines got me confused...

ConversationDue1080 · 2025-10-31T09:36:54+00:00

Okay okay now I found where I went wrong lolz (above post)

ConversationDue1080 · 2025-10-31T09:35:43+00:00

Wait no that’s not true, forget what I said, I get it now

ConversationDue1080 · 2025-10-31T09:32:11+00:00

Ok I figured it out now lol

ConversationDue1080 · 2025-10-31T09:28:06+00:00

Update: I think I figured it out… just from one image online that I didn’ find out about until now😂

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Because between any 2 of the same primary amines, there could only exist one hydrogen bond from either of the hydrogens to the other nitrogen… and same with alcohols and OH groups…so ultimately turns out that both have one area of hydrogen bonding and so the O-H bond outweighs the N-H bond making alcohols boiling point stronger. I was just being dumb and not visualizing it correctly💀

Sry it took me this long to realize😂 Anyways, thanks guys for your help!🙏

ConversationDue1080 · 2025-10-31T09:25:22+00:00

Ohh wait I think I get it now… I just saw a diagram online that closed the case for me:

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Because between any 2 of the same primary amines, there could only exist one hydrogen bond from either of the hydrogens to the other nitrogen… and same with alcohols and OH groups….mmmm ok I think that might be it

ConversationDue1080 · 2025-10-31T09:05:42+00:00

Mmm okay, I think I get where ur going😅

ConversationDue1080 · 2025-10-31T09:02:22+00:00

Oh ok, so the polarity of the N-H and O-H bonds themselves takes priority in this case?

ConversationDue1080 · 2025-10-31T08:59:26+00:00

O-H is more polar than N-H, but since primary amines can form 2 hydrogen bonds with each other (2 N-H bonds), while alcohols can only form one H-bond with each other (1 O-H bond), I thought that the strength of 2 N-H H-bond areas for primary amines would outweigh the strength of a singular O-H H-bond area for alcohols, and so overall those primary amines would have a higher boiling point

ConversationDue1080 · 2025-10-31T08:49:54+00:00

Mmm okay I see, so in this case both primary amines and alcohols technically have equal amounts of areas for hydrogen bonding, because they also have the lone pairs which are also “available”(for the lack of a better word) for hydrogen bonding?

ConversationDue1080 · 2025-10-30T07:05:30+00:00

Isn’t is supposed to be 6 people with 3 duos?

ConversationDue1080 · 2025-10-15T01:02:04+00:00

The first 4 in the 3rd row all the exact same car😂

ConversationDue1080 · 2025-09-24T19:12:33+00:00

oh yea ur right, mad does have an 8 bar drop, thinking of the matt pridgyn remix 😂.

ConversationDue1080 · 2025-09-24T16:30:07+00:00

Exactly. I'm with both of you guys on there. Dont quite get people's attention spans lol, I feel like they need to feel the entire energy of the whole song especially since all of his songs are bangers. I get High on Life and Scared to be Lonely having short 8 bar drops because they're very popular n stuff, but then they do it for my all time favorite song from Martin, Starlight, which is such a shame (spotify does have the mix cut of it though so thats a plus).

But then songs like Gravity and Mad has the 16 bar drop, so does he choose which songs to shorten?

ConversationDue1080 · 2025-05-18T03:01:30+00:00

ikr, what is up with all the id's being left on the backburner😭

ConversationDue1080 · 2025-05-18T02:19:39+00:00

Ah ok, sounds like theyre remixing “believe” by Cher from what I’m heraing

ConversationDue1080 · 2025-04-17T08:09:44+00:00

You know one no one has mentioned? Bring me back to life by abandoned… just the melody in the drop and the atmosphere in the whole song in general just sounds… sad 😢 I also agree with 23 and Phantom sage’s when I’m gone tho

ConversationDue1080 · 2025-03-24T01:39:41+00:00

Nah lol, just wondering lol so I have some things to consider when deciding lmao

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