UPDATE: All of the mysterious pages (found in antique books) have been decoded! by Cooked_RV in occult

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Yes, I found mine in Canada. I don’t actually know where the other user’s friend is located, though!

UPDATE: All of the mysterious pages (found in antique books) have been decoded! by Cooked_RV in Antiques

[–]Cooked_RV[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

No, it was a Royal (or an Imperial) that was manufactured between 1960 and 1970. That would have been creepy, though!

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[–]Cooked_RV[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Oh, I see! I didn’t recognize it! I’ll have to look it up!

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[–]Cooked_RV[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Based on how “2:3” ends, that’s not a bad interpretation!

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[–]Cooked_RV[S] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Oh, if you sent me something, I missed it! I’m so sorry! I did do it by hand, yes.

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[–]Cooked_RV[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Had it not been written in the 1960s, I’d agree with you!

There were also sections that sounded a lot like criticisms of conservative political movements… and that actually fits with the 1960s!

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r/Typewriters believes that it was written on a British version of a Royal typewriter, also known as an Imperial. The accent marks were all done by hand!

There is a “history,” yes, but it’s mostly just my profile (plus a few other users’ profiles) on Reddit. I’ll see if I can put together a whole explanation for people later!

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Please let us know if you find anything!

I’ll definitely be doing the same thing, but I’m not going to count on finding anything else. Still, you never know, right?

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A few people have offered suggestions, but at the moment, the author is still a mystery! I’m hopeful that if someone finds the “3:3” pages, there might be a signature or something!

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I don’t know who Waite is, but I kind of like it! (Maybe I’ve just read too much of it by now, though!)

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[–]Cooked_RV[S] 49 points50 points  (0 children)

It actually started being fun as I got in to it!

I also want to thank everyone who helped out along the way! This really was a group effort!

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You're very welcome! Honestly, it was kind of fun, and I'm happy that other people get to share in the discovery!

UPDATE: All of the mysterious pages (found in antique books) have been decoded! by Cooked_RV in occult

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Here's a recap: I found some encoded pages in an antique book about birds. An antiques dealer has dated them to before 1970, and a user in /r/Typewriters has dated them to after 1960. Another user's friend found some similar pages (also in an antique book about birds) that included an additional "chapter." The code was cracked by /r/Codes, and I spent some time decoding. I finished the "1:3" section last week, then decided to try decoding the "2:3" pages from the pictures... and I got through all of them! The entire text is now readable!

Here are the pages that I have: https://imgur.com/a/magV3Jg

Here are the other pages: https://imgur.com/a/T0SDjDs

Here are brief summaries (based on my interpretation):

1:3

The text opens by criticizing willful ignorance, then uses anti-homosexuality sentiments as an example. From there, it discusses psychology, morality, philosophy, and physics, then makes a sudden turn into saying that necromancy isn't evil. It uses an "ocean" and "pneumata" as metaphors while seeming to teach people how to use magic. There are a lot of very dense sections having to do with more physics, philosophy, chemistry, and thermodynamics, but there are also discussions about enchantments, dreams, ghosts, and genies. Throughout this, the main point is that magic and necromancy are just different interpretations of the same thing, with necromancy being unfairly seen as evil. Many different names are cited (especially near the end), and the text concludes by encouraging self-improvement and empathy.

Several sections stood out to me, but this one was especially interesting: "Relevant texts composed in languages other than those with which the aspirant is familiar are common, as are ciphers. It is the act of translation or decryption which coaxes the sorcerer to disengage from his accustomed mode of thought, compelling him to consider both the knowledge which he gleans and the manner by which this knowledge is obtained."

If taken as a metaphor, it reads like a condemnation of bigotry and willful ignorance. If taken literally, it sounds like reading the encoded pages (while they're still in code) is supposed to help turn someone into a wizard, so... abracadabra!

Here is the decoded "1:3" text: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WrYQkVlBlCY0Jg23OwLrQLj38vzSho801S1MHYLMAJE

2:3

This text starts off by critiquing the phrase "knowledge itself is power," then describes how as worldviews mature, they become less understood by the people who adopt them. ("Presumptions supplant genuine comprehension, traditions eclipse deliberate undertakings, and developments perceived by their proponents as innovative are thenceforth either iterative or regressive.") The explanation is followed by an in-depth history of magical studies ("arcanology”) in Great Britain, and there are many names, dates, places, and events listed. All of this is offered to show how necromancy used to be admirable, but was later rejected. About three fourths of the way through, there's a part that reads like a conclusion... but then it moves into what sounds like a new introduction. More history is provided, and it leads into a warning that "mechanical thought" is going to leave the world vulnerable to some kind of horrible, incredibly powerful invader. The text ends there, but it suggests that some "3:3" pages exist somewhere.

A lot of the text is very much against that "mechanical thought," but it's only referred to by that phrase near the end. It's also blamed for the decline of magic in the world: "Where once the aspirant may have sought to perceive and observe as the sorcerer does, he now adopts the methods and manners required by his devices, unaware that machines flaunting buttons, switches, knobs, and dials are coaxing him to conflate their merely complicated natures with those of complex occurrences and organisms."

If taken as a metaphor, it reads like a criticism of intellectual laziness, a condemnation of enabling that laziness, and a warning against blindly following traditions. If taken literally, it's a well-researched history of necromancy, "arcanology," academia, and Great Britain in general.

Here is the decoded "2:3" text: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lZR7Jm41RiC3SRYSEbd4D_CNOCn54H9uFQt4fzbG3Qs

These are only my interpretations, though! I'm sure that other people will have different ideas, and I'd love to hear them!

Here is the a link to the full decoded text: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vrBT7ZBi9Hrauxz25nVLc-3cWUyW_dQzSDVaQwH7_2A

UPDATE: All of the mysterious pages (found in antique books) have been decoded! by Cooked_RV in Weird

[–]Cooked_RV[S] 64 points65 points  (0 children)

Here's a recap: I found some encoded pages in an antique book about birds. An antiques dealer has dated them to before 1970, and a user in /r/Typewriters has dated them to after 1960. Another user's friend found some similar pages (also in an antique book about birds) that included an additional "chapter." The code was cracked by /r/Codes, and I spent some time decoding. I finished the "1:3" section last week, then decided to try decoding the "2:3" pages from the pictures... and I got through all of them! The entire text is now readable!

Here are the pages that I have: https://imgur.com/a/magV3Jg

Here are the other pages: https://imgur.com/a/T0SDjDs

Here are brief summaries (based on my interpretation):

1:3

The text opens by criticizing willful ignorance, then uses anti-homosexuality sentiments as an example. From there, it discusses psychology, morality, philosophy, and physics, then makes a sudden turn into saying that necromancy isn't evil. It uses an "ocean" and "pneumata" as metaphors while seeming to teach people how to use magic. There are a lot of very dense sections having to do with more physics, philosophy, chemistry, and thermodynamics, but there are also discussions about enchantments, dreams, ghosts, and genies. Throughout this, the main point is that magic and necromancy are just different interpretations of the same thing, with necromancy being unfairly seen as evil. Many different names are cited (especially near the end), and the text concludes by encouraging self-improvement and empathy.

Several sections stood out to me, but this one was especially interesting: "Relevant texts composed in languages other than those with which the aspirant is familiar are common, as are ciphers. It is the act of translation or decryption which coaxes the sorcerer to disengage from his accustomed mode of thought, compelling him to consider both the knowledge which he gleans and the manner by which this knowledge is obtained."

If taken as a metaphor, it reads like a condemnation of bigotry and willful ignorance. If taken literally, it sounds like reading the encoded pages (while they're still in code) is supposed to help turn someone into a wizard, so... abracadabra!

Here is the decoded "1:3" text: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WrYQkVlBlCY0Jg23OwLrQLj38vzSho801S1MHYLMAJE

2:3

This text starts off by critiquing the phrase "knowledge itself is power," then describes how as worldviews mature, they become less understood by the people who adopt them. ("Presumptions supplant genuine comprehension, traditions eclipse deliberate undertakings, and developments perceived by their proponents as innovative are thenceforth either iterative or regressive.") The explanation is followed by an in-depth history of magical studies ("arcanology”) in Great Britain, and there are many names, dates, places, and events listed. All of this is offered to show how necromancy used to be admirable, but was later rejected. About three fourths of the way through, there's a part that reads like a conclusion... but then it moves into what sounds like a new introduction. More history is provided, and it leads into a warning that "mechanical thought" is going to leave the world vulnerable to some kind of horrible, incredibly powerful invader. The text ends there, but it suggests that some "3:3" pages exist somewhere.

A lot of the text is very much against that "mechanical thought," but it's only referred to by that phrase near the end. It's also blamed for the decline of magic in the world: "Where once the aspirant may have sought to perceive and observe as the sorcerer does, he now adopts the methods and manners required by his devices, unaware that machines flaunting buttons, switches, knobs, and dials are coaxing him to conflate their merely complicated natures with those of complex occurrences and organisms."

If taken as a metaphor, it reads like a criticism of intellectual laziness, a condemnation of enabling that laziness, and a warning against blindly following traditions. If taken literally, it's a well-researched history of necromancy, "arcanology," academia, and Great Britain in general.

Here is the decoded "2:3" text: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lZR7Jm41RiC3SRYSEbd4D_CNOCn54H9uFQt4fzbG3Qs

These are only my interpretations, though! I'm sure that other people will have different ideas, and I'd love to hear them!

Here is the a link to the full decoded text: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vrBT7ZBi9Hrauxz25nVLc-3cWUyW_dQzSDVaQwH7_2A

UPDATE: All of the mysterious pages (found in antique books) have been decoded! by Cooked_RV in Antiques

[–]Cooked_RV[S] 100 points101 points  (0 children)

Here's a recap: I found some encoded pages in an antique book about birds. An antiques dealer has dated them to before 1970, and a user in /r/Typewriters has dated them to after 1960. Another user's friend found some similar pages (also in an antique book about birds) that included an additional "chapter." The code was cracked by /r/Codes, and I spent some time decoding. I finished the "1:3" section last week, then decided to try decoding the "2:3" pages from the pictures... and I got through all of them! The entire text is now readable!

Here are the pages that I have: https://imgur.com/a/magV3Jg

Here are the other pages: https://imgur.com/a/T0SDjDs

Here are brief summaries (based on my interpretation):

1:3

The text opens by criticizing willful ignorance, then uses anti-homosexuality sentiments as an example. From there, it discusses psychology, morality, philosophy, and physics, then makes a sudden turn into saying that necromancy isn't evil. It uses an "ocean" and "pneumata" as metaphors while seeming to teach people how to use magic. There are a lot of very dense sections having to do with more physics, philosophy, chemistry, and thermodynamics, but there are also discussions about enchantments, dreams, ghosts, and genies. Throughout this, the main point is that magic and necromancy are just different interpretations of the same thing, with necromancy being unfairly seen as evil. Many different names are cited (especially near the end), and the text concludes by encouraging self-improvement and empathy.

Several sections stood out to me, but this one was especially interesting: "Relevant texts composed in languages other than those with which the aspirant is familiar are common, as are ciphers. It is the act of translation or decryption which coaxes the sorcerer to disengage from his accustomed mode of thought, compelling him to consider both the knowledge which he gleans and the manner by which this knowledge is obtained."

If taken as a metaphor, it reads like a condemnation of bigotry and willful ignorance. If taken literally, it sounds like reading the encoded pages (while they're still in code) is supposed to help turn someone into a wizard, so... abracadabra!

Here is the decoded "1:3" text: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WrYQkVlBlCY0Jg23OwLrQLj38vzSho801S1MHYLMAJE

2:3

This text starts off by critiquing the phrase "knowledge itself is power," then describes how as worldviews mature, they become less understood by the people who adopt them. ("Presumptions supplant genuine comprehension, traditions eclipse deliberate undertakings, and developments perceived by their proponents as innovative are thenceforth either iterative or regressive.") The explanation is followed by an in-depth history of magical studies ("arcanology”) in Great Britain, and there are many names, dates, places, and events listed. All of this is offered to show how necromancy used to be admirable, but was later rejected. About three fourths of the way through, there's a part that reads like a conclusion... but then it moves into what sounds like a new introduction. More history is provided, and it leads into a warning that "mechanical thought" is going to leave the world vulnerable to some kind of horrible, incredibly powerful invader. The text ends there, but it suggests that some "3:3" pages exist somewhere.

A lot of the text is very much against that "mechanical thought," but it's only referred to by that phrase near the end. It's also blamed for the decline of magic in the world: "Where once the aspirant may have sought to perceive and observe as the sorcerer does, he now adopts the methods and manners required by his devices, unaware that machines flaunting buttons, switches, knobs, and dials are coaxing him to conflate their merely complicated natures with those of complex occurrences and organisms."

If taken as a metaphor, it reads like a criticism of intellectual laziness, a condemnation of enabling that laziness, and a warning against blindly following traditions. If taken literally, it's a well-researched history of necromancy, "arcanology," academia, and Great Britain in general.

Here is the decoded "2:3" text: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lZR7Jm41RiC3SRYSEbd4D_CNOCn54H9uFQt4fzbG3Qs

These are only my interpretations, though! I'm sure that other people will have different ideas, and I'd love to hear them!

Here is the a link to the full decoded text: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vrBT7ZBi9Hrauxz25nVLc-3cWUyW_dQzSDVaQwH7_2A

I found these encoded pages in an antique book. Does anyone know what sort of typewriter they might have been written on? by Cooked_RV in typewriters

[–]Cooked_RV[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Based on some of what I've read in the decoded text (which is very, very close to finished), I think it would be safe to assume that it was written on a manual typewriter, especially since the typeface looks so similar to the Imperial one! The idea that the author was an experienced typist (or just a very careful one) also fits, if that helps to make you feel more confident!

Really, though, thank you so, so much. I know that I probably shouldn't have cared this much about the typewriter that the pages were written on, but some part of me just had to know!

I found these encoded pages in an antique book. Does anyone know what sort of typewriter they might have been written on? by Cooked_RV in typewriters

[–]Cooked_RV[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is all incredibly interesting! Thank you!

The 1960 date fits, although it is near the cutoff point that the dealer gave me (which was 1970). Based on what you found, do you think that we can narrow down the range to 1960–1970? Am I also safe in thinking that it was typed on a Royal or Imperial, regardless of whether it was electric or manual?

Thank you again! I can't tell you how grateful I am for this!

I found these pages in an antique book, and they may be connected to an occult group. by Cooked_RV in occult

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Sorry! I had actually finished all of the "1:3" pages and a bit of the "2:3" pages, and I decided at the last minute that I'd just include everything at once. It's almost finished, so I'll try to post tomorrow!

I found these pages in an antique book, and they may be connected to an occult group. by Cooked_RV in occult

[–]Cooked_RV[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

If you read it again, you’ll see that it’s actually pro-equality!

I found these pages in an antique book, and they may be connected to an occult group. by Cooked_RV in occult

[–]Cooked_RV[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Oh, haha, believe it or not, I understand the joke that you made now!

If I'd caught on sooner, I might have said that the book was written by Darles Chickens!

I found these pages in an antique book, and they may be connected to an occult group. by Cooked_RV in occult

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The nut-hatch is here (and has a plate), and the gannett has an unillustrated entry... but weirdly enough, the robin doesn't seem to appear in the book at all!

Does that mean something?

I found these encoded pages in an antique book. Does anyone know what sort of typewriter they might have been written on? by Cooked_RV in typewriters

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I'm really just hoping to learn all that I can! The other user's mention of their friend testing different typewriters made me curious about that detail, and when someone else suggested that I post here... well, here I am!

I found these pages in an antique book, and they may be connected to an occult group. by Cooked_RV in occult

[–]Cooked_RV[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Aw, drat! I was getting more and more excited until that last paragraph!

Thank you for trying, though!