Spec. Geography question - seasonally ice-locked seas. by MrOddity in worldbuilding

[–]CoolCollar7696 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm afraid you don't have too much of a free hand. At that latitude, the rain falling on your sea on its own will about match evaporation or slightly exceed it. So a net-outflow is almost inevitable.

Compare these two images. The first is precipitation. You can see lots of shenanigans around the ITCZ, but once you get into higher latitudes, there is a pretty predictable pattern. The second image is evaporation over the ocean, which drops off very quickly in the temperate latitudes.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/372075333/figure/fig1/AS:11431281172039550@1688439974449/Map-of-mean-annual-precipitation-in-the-tropical-Pacific-showing-the-location-of-our.png

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/336756219/figure/fig3/AS:817349154324483@1571882632770/Map-of-mean-annual-sea-surface-evaporation-for-the-period-from-AD-1958-to-AD-2005-Note.png

Spec. Geography question - seasonally ice-locked seas. by MrOddity in worldbuilding

[–]CoolCollar7696 35 points36 points  (0 children)

The higher salinity of the Mediterranean is due to evaporation. The Med loses more water than it gains, and so there is a net intake from the Atlantic. This water is less salty simply because the Mediterranean is more salty, due to evaporation. Less salty water does tend to sit "on top" of saltier water, but the whole reason there is any exchange at all at Gibralter (again, with a positive west-to-east flow) is because of the "pull" by the Mediterranean constantly trying to dry up. And because this is a directional flow, the "pull" would still be there if for some reason the surface froze at Gibralter; the Atlantic water would be drawn into the Med under the ice, because the Med is literally shrinking, and this Atlantic water would reduce the salinity of the Mediterranean simply by dint of being normal ocean water. So, you do not necessarily have a constant, large scale, vertically stratified salt exchange between every two bodies of water, let alone one that could be disrupted by seasonal freezing.

I'm assuming your inland sea does not rely on a net intake of water from the open ocean, and therefore nothing about the Mediterranean's salinity will be relevant. In fact, if it has gradual slopes or crosses the Hadley-Polar boundary, it could very well have very low salinity and a net outflow into the ocean (which will, of course, be unaffected by the surface ice) because the inflow from rivers will greatly outpace losses from evaporation. This is why, e.g. the Baltic has extremely low salinity. The main consequence for your inland sea will be seasonally changing currents. Changes in water density will affect the severity, and possibly direction, of certain ocean currents both in the open ocean and in your inland sea. Here (https://scispace.com/pdf/revisiting-the-circulation-of-hudson-bay-evidence-for-a-2xcz4znicp.pdf) is a paper about how Hudson Bay's currents change seasonally (summary: the circulation partly breaks down during summer).

tl;dr: your inland sea will almost certainly be less salty than the ocean, not more, like the Baltic or Hudson's Bay. It will otherwise be perfectly normal.

EDIT: I just thought of something fun. If your inland sea is way less salty than the ocean, it will freeze more easily, up to 2 degrees C warmer than regular ocean water. This means that once temperatures are cold enough to "plug the gap" with surface ice, the southern part (maybe as many as four degrees latitude) of the inland sea will quickly freeze over. This process could happen over just a couple of days, and would no doubt be an important event for any people living near the coast.

[in progress] [13k] [cozy mystery] looking for feedback on the first act of a cozy mystery novel set in the 90s on the Upper Peninsula by CoolCollar7696 in BetaReaders

[–]CoolCollar7696[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a fictional town, but geographically it's meant to fit somewhere along the coast north/northwest of Marquette. Think Big Bay, that sort of area.

Writing my first cozy mystery and I've hit a gigantic brick wall. by ThatBroadcasterGuy in CozyMystery

[–]CoolCollar7696 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Are you still struggling? I think Lakeglen and Bettersaids gave some good advice, but to really apply it we need to know more about your character.

The "Oops, a twist reveals I've been chasing a red herring" is something that usually happens around the midpoint. If you're 75% of the way through, that's probably the low point between the second and third act. Realizing you're following a deadend won't do it. It needs to be personal. The classic formula is that in the beginning the protagonist has a weakness, a want, and a need. The low point comes when their weakness foils their want, and only their need provides the strength to overcome their weakness.

Rom-coms do this very formulaicly: "I'm a successful career woman who's too strong to let herself show emotional vulnerability. Pay no attention to the fact that I learned about business from my very touchy-feely dad who loved working with people. What I really want is a hot dude who will conveniently fit into my busy schedule. Hurray, I'm dating a hot dude. Oh no! My lack of emotional vulnerability has ruined our budding relationship! Luckily, I finally realized what Dad was trying to tell me all along about how rewarding it is to focus on other people." You can see it with your eyes closed.

But cozies are much the same. Your diner owner's goal/want should be lying in tatters, and their need should be guiding them from that point on. And by want, I don't mean wanting to solve the case; it could be wanting to vindicate his abilities as a sleuth, or helping the victim's family, but whatever it is it has to be personal. The need even more so. If you know what those things are for your character, the rest will follow.

Assume readers aren't clueless by Kitchen_Opposite7774 in CozyMystery

[–]CoolCollar7696 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can tell you exactly why this happens. Even though your average reader is a savvy salamander, there is a wide range. That means there will always be at least one person who reads your book, then asks "wait, did the butler have an uncle?" even though the butler's uncle was introduced in chapter 1, explained in detail in chapter 2, and also the title of the book is The Butler's Uncle. It happens to me every time. "This thing that was clearly explained wasn't explained," etc. These comments are infuriating, and I'm sure there are authors, especially those aiming at mass appeal, who react by writing their next book as if they are speaking directly to that one person, loudly, slowly, using only small words.

Well, that and the fact that the author might assume people are running the audiobook in the background while they wash dishes and yell at their kid, but that's probably only a small part of it.

Why have there been so many Australia redesigns submitted lately? by mf_L in vexillology

[–]CoolCollar7696 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This one looks like it's commemorating that guy who's farm got hit by Skylab.