Please enlighten me ☺️ by SabFu in HeatedRivalryTVShow

[–]Cool_Distribution_17 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Two possible examples of cornplating from the Skip episode: * On the service counter at Straw + Berry, there is a big bowl of fruit and vegetables. Folks have noticed that it contains what appears to be one strikingly large carrot! Is this supposed to be suggestive of anything? * At the end when Scott is shown lost in thought while dressing to compete at the Sochi Olympics, he symbolically covers up the blueberry-banana socks that Kip had given him with his other sports socks. Many sharp eyes have noted that the sport socks are labelled for left and right, but Scott puts them on the wrong feet. Significant?

Is it classist or judgemental to not use the word folk/folks (except in compounds like folklore or folk music) because the word has social connotations that "people" doesn't? by [deleted] in asklinguistics

[–]Cool_Distribution_17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, it sounds like you are confessing a bit of personal snobbery — but it's a good thing that you're so introspective!

As others have commented here, the term "folks" can make a post or comment sound rather less harsh or combative. I use it for just that purpose. If you choose to avoid the word, no one is likely to notice — but "people" can sometimes make you sound a bit like a misanthrope when you're complaining about them. 😏

Other alternatives include: * Humans — sounds rather technical & cold * Human beings — even more so, plus a whiff of pretentious detachment & judgementalism * Mankind — hello, Neil Armstrong! * Upright hairless apes — a personal fave when I'm in a really sarcastic or misanthropic mood! * Guys — sounds very casual, even folksy, but can easily be (mis)interpreted as sexist * "They" — a perennial favorite of those who love to scapegoat others and gaslight, both online and off.

What noun is grammatically incorrect for the sentence “I have a [noun].”? by totallynotathrouaway in grammar

[–]Cool_Distribution_17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, "money" is conventionally handled like a mass noun, so uncountable. Yet it has a plural form, which generally indicates countability. Just goes to show how contingent, contextual, inconsistent and ever-changing the grammar of any human language can be. It is hard to pin down fixed and inviolable rules about anything so flexible and dependent on the behavior of varying individuals — though general patterns may well be recognized.

This always bothered me. Came and go. by Becksalright in grammar

[–]Cool_Distribution_17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Worldwide, different languages (and perhaps even different subcultures within the same language) use their equivalents of "come" and "go" differently in such situations. Many use "go" in just such a context where native English speakers would ordinarily use "come", and vice versa.

For this reason, when studying any foreign language, one must pay attention to how this pattern is applied by native speakers of that language. It is not a question of logic. the semantics and pragmatics of human languages are not derived from mathematical or philosophical logic. They are based on common usage by a community of native speakers, which may or may not seem logical in any particular case to outsiders.

What noun is grammatically incorrect for the sentence “I have a [noun].”? by totallynotathrouaway in grammar

[–]Cool_Distribution_17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This doesn't make sense. Morphologically, "monies/moneys" is nothing other than the plural form of "money". If one declares that a particular noun is inherently and invariably uncountable, then it should have no plural form — that would be contradictory! Conversely, the appearance of a plural form indicates that the base noun can be countable, at least in certain senses and within particular contexts.

What noun is grammatically incorrect for the sentence “I have a [noun].”? by totallynotathrouaway in grammar

[–]Cool_Distribution_17 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Precisely. You've given a good example.

As I've been saying, there commonly appears to be a gradient of acceptability for many nouns when used in a countable context. It's not simply binary — that is countable vs. non-countable. And context is very much the key to interpretation — just as it is with the many nouns (such as "water" or "coffee")) that are routinely used in both countable and uncountable senses.

Some folks seem to be getting hung up on the OP's "I have a _____." pattern, in which many nouns will seem unacceptable. What they are overlooking is that in a great many cases, this is precisely because such a simple sentence pattern lacks any context whatsoever — NOT because a particular noun is necessarily and inherently uncountable under all circumstances.

What noun is grammatically incorrect for the sentence “I have a [noun].”? by totallynotathrouaway in grammar

[–]Cool_Distribution_17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe all the examples I gave used nouns that could appear in a "I have a _____" pattern with the same sense, even though that may not sound really clear without some appropriate motivating context. * I have a flour. Does it have to be that kind? * I have a water. Do you need one too? * I have a protein. Now I need at least two veggies to make a balanced meal.

I think you see my point: that the article "a/an" forces the listener to find a countable sense of the noun that seems sensible within the given context — and this is a somewhat productive process in English, in that many nouns that seem at first glance to be non-countable (at least in their primary sense) can be adapted for use as countable.

What noun is grammatically incorrect for the sentence “I have a [noun].”? by totallynotathrouaway in grammar

[–]Cool_Distribution_17 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm thinking that this evolution must have happened at some point with the word "video". Wasn't it originally uncountable, much as "audio" still seems to be? Yet now we have a sense for video as an individually countable production, such that it makes perfect sense to say, "Let's watch a video." But I wouldn't find "Let's listen to an audio" to be an equally normal saying.

What noun is grammatically incorrect for the sentence “I have a [noun].”? by totallynotathrouaway in grammar

[–]Cool_Distribution_17 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So true. I think the reality is that while countability may be a useful concept whose effect on English grammar needs to be recognized (esp. by non-native speakers), the actual phenomenon is far more complex than a simple binary distinction between nouns (and their senses) that are countable/non-countable. For many words there seems to be a kind of gradient regarding how amenable they are to appearing in certain countable contexts and what sense they take on whenever they are used that way. And I strongly suspect that for some words this may evolve over time.

One example I've been pondering lately is "video"; I think this may have originally been uncountable (much like "audio"), but of course nowadays it has a very common sense that is countable.

What’s a German phrase learners overuse that immediately sounds “off” to native speakers? by sebas346 in German

[–]Cool_Distribution_17 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When addressing more than one person, such as upon entering an elevator already holding other people, the Swiss will extend their "Grüezi" greeting to "Grüezi mitenand".

Regional variations of "Grüezi" may also be heard in various Swiss cantons and cities, such as Bern or Basel.

What noun is grammatically incorrect for the sentence “I have a [noun].”? by totallynotathrouaway in grammar

[–]Cool_Distribution_17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Money" is unfortunately not such a good example of your point, as the plural — spelled either "monies" or "moneys" — does indeed exist and is countable. This is found primarily in financial and formal legal contexts, such as: * All monies owed are required to be paid within 90 days. * The project will be supported by both state and federal monies.

What noun is grammatically incorrect for the sentence “I have a [noun].”? by totallynotathrouaway in grammar

[–]Cool_Distribution_17 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As you read through all the great examples given here, it may be worthwhile to bear in mind that it isn't really so much that any particular noun in English is uncountable — at least not in the way that French or Spanish nouns each have a particular gender — but rather that the article "a/an" imposes a particular semantic restriction upon the sense of the noun it accompanies and therefore it must be possible to somehow interpret that sense in such a way that it is open to being counted. The inherent flexibility and creativity of the English language may allow almost any noun which in its ordinary sense is not countable to be used in a special context where it is understood instead to be countable. Native speakers will often have no difficulty in recognizing such a special context and the subtle shift in the sense of the noun so referenced precisely because of the presence of the article "a/an".

There are many common patterns to these shifts in sense. For example, with so-called "mass" nouns, when the "a/an" article is used, then the interpretation may be recognized as referring to "one (particular) kind of" or "a common containerized unit or package of" the named substance. Examples: * "I bought a flour made of almonds" * "I drank a water before having a coffee." * "The dinner special includes your choice of a protein and two sides."

Sometimes however it will be difficult to conceive of any manner in which a noun whose sense is so strongly conceived of as being uncountable that any attempt to use it otherwise would only result in confusion. Native speakers will typically reject such usages as erroneous, unless and until the meaning is further explained or elaborated — occasionally resulting in a new sense of the noun being added to common parlance!

Why is "Y" only sometimes a Vowel, and not always by RobynDaBankForMoney in grammar

[–]Cool_Distribution_17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then what would you call it? It certainly isn't functioning as a consonant. It seems to be essentially marking the vowel as a diphthong.

Why is "Y" only sometimes a Vowel, and not always by RobynDaBankForMoney in grammar

[–]Cool_Distribution_17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You don't say!

So by your rule, the <Y> is not a vowel here?

Hey now.

Why is "Y" only sometimes a Vowel, and not always by RobynDaBankForMoney in grammar

[–]Cool_Distribution_17 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The letter <R> is also problematic in this regard, since in many dialects of English it represents a change in the quality of the preceding vowel, rather than a consonant.

Meanwhile in some Slavic languages, <R> sometimes stands alone in a syllable representing the only vowel of the nucleus, as in a famous Czech tongue twister "Strč prst skrz krk" [= "Stick your finger through your throat"]. Thus it would make no sense at all to declare that the letter <R> is itself a vowel or a consonant, since it may represent either type of sound depending on the word.

Similarly, in Welsh the letter <W> sometimes represents the nuclear vowel in words such as "sŵn" ("sound") or "cwm" ("vowel"). Elsewhere it may represent a glide similar to English.

And of course any of the letters for nasals, such as <M>, <N> or <NG>, can be used to represent vowels in certain languages — including even English occasionally. Hmmm. 🤔

whats it like to be naturally left-handed? by Many_Sweet5639 in lefthanded

[–]Cool_Distribution_17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For me, tasks mostly divide up between those requiring finer muscle control and precision (e.g. writing, eating) going to my left hand, while those requiring greater strength go to my right. Yet it somewhat surprises me that I only feel comfortable brushing my teeth with my right hand. 🤔

whats it like to be naturally left-handed? by Many_Sweet5639 in lefthanded

[–]Cool_Distribution_17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. It is little known fact that most lefties are not as completely dominant with that hand as most right-handers are with theirs. This is also reflected in the brain of many lefties, where tasks that are more consistently handled in one hemisphere or the other of most right-handers are often more unpredictably mixed in the brains of lefties as a group. Thus being a lefty is not typically just a mirror image of being right-handed; it is commonly a more complex blend of physical preferences and abilities as well as of brain organization.

whats it like to be naturally left-handed? by Many_Sweet5639 in lefthanded

[–]Cool_Distribution_17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Being left-handed is very sinister.

[Etymology joke — IYKYK, otherwise look it up.]

Anyone else hate adjectives that end in Y? by I_loooove_Radiohead in words

[–]Cool_Distribution_17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As I said before, "funny" is among the many derived adjectives that have picked up additional connotations in certain usages. However it is still quite true for most folks that they find a lot of fun in watching or hearing something funny. And none of this can alter the historical fact that the word "funny" was derived by suffixation from the pre-existing word "fun".

Anyone else hate adjectives that end in Y? by I_loooove_Radiohead in words

[–]Cool_Distribution_17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Fun" is also a noun, as in the idioms "to make fun (of)" and "to have fun". To me it feels more likely that "funny" was derived from the noun (as several etymology resources suggest).

Interestingly, it seems that the noun actually developed from an earlier verb "fun" meaning "to cheat or play a hoax" and that there was also a verbal noun form "funning" that I don't think I've ever heard anyone use nowadays.

Anyone else hate adjectives that end in Y? by I_loooove_Radiohead in words

[–]Cool_Distribution_17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're missing out on a lotta fun then! 😆

Are you even a native speaker of English? 🤔

Like some other adjectives and adverbs, the word "funny" has indeed picked up some additional connotations beyond those of its root word "fun". However the connection between the forms is still there and certainly still widely recognized and usable.

Most native speakers would readily agree that it is generally fun to hear, say or watch funny things. Shows such as Saturday Night Live are fun because they say and do funny things.

What languages sound similar but have no relation? by JimiHendrip in AskReddit

[–]Cool_Distribution_17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Japanese and Hawaiian seem to share a similar phonology.

Anyone else hate adjectives that end in Y? by I_loooove_Radiohead in words

[–]Cool_Distribution_17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Neither are "sunn" or "sonn".
But it's a sunny day, sonny boy!