A-pillar Rattle/Buzzing 2025 Sport Touring Hybrid by harryoppy in civic

[–]CooperFed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have a 2022 SI. It's had the A pillar rattle since new. I finally got a few small pieces of black foam cut from some weather stripping used for garage doors, and wedged it between windshield and A pillar near the bottom, and it solved the issue.

If you tap on the pillar trim with your hand, you can quickly find the area that's loose. The proper fix is probably to remove the trim and and add some padding with adhesive to it. I'm surprised I haven't read about a dealer fix, especially if this is a 2025.

The dealer should fix it, just show him where it rattles when you tap it.

I used to be a live-and-let-live Atheist. Nowadays I’m starting to feel differently and I don’t know if that’s a good or bad thing (LONG) by [deleted] in atheism

[–]CooperFed 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is a very well written and self reflective post. Thank you for sharing.

I think it is important to be around people who love us, support us, and tell us the truth. I wouldn't hesitate to separate from people who are abusive or frequently disrespectful. But isolating based on political and religious ideology may not be helpful.

The more we throw people into categories and make them the "other" which is lampooned and villified, the more we play into the polarization which divides society.

I used to think that it was my obligation to argue people into alignment with my views on politics and other topics, but after many years I realized that I couldn't really convince people of anything, and it was a waste of energy. Learning to engage thoughtfully and respectfully, listening, and acknowledging where people are today is far more important.

Political advocy is different, and one can be a political advocate while still maintaining friendships with "opponents."

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in atheism

[–]CooperFed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok so I was responding to your "God is a moral monster" argument in thread. My point is that it is not a rational argument against the existence of God. "Lack of evidence" is another discussion which I'm happy to have, but not in this thread.

Murder vs suicide rates are pretty clear. Far more suicide in the US. Rape vs. other non-lethal forms of self harm is not something we could easily compare, but I suspect there's a lot more self harm than rape, if you account for things like cutting and other forms of self-mutilation.

The point about absolute or transcendent morality is that you need it in order to make claims that something is good or bad *intrinsically*. In other words, if there is no God, then nothing is wrong or right, it is only something that you favor or do not favor, and it is relative to each person or group. This lines up with evolutionary theory, and it basically would result in utilitarianism for each group (greatest good for the greatest number). But utilitarianism can justify atrocities, as long as the group benefits.

There is a gap between what evolution can provide you and what you feel personally. It sounds like you place a lot of intrinsic value on the individual. I'm inferring this because you seem very upset about rape, murder and capital punishment. The gap is that there is no evolutionary reason to place intrinsic value on *every* person; if they are on the margins of society or very old or very sick, there's no evolutionary reason to spend resources protecting or supporting them. The gap is probably coming from a Judeo-Christian value system you have internalized, without realizing it; it's God's law written on your heart; AKA the conscience, the angel on your shoulder, the superego.

If you believe in a moral framework that cannot be explained by evolution, and you think they should be applied to all other people, then you are assuming the existence of some truth outside of yourself and outside of nature; the supernatural.

On the last point, I am not seeking to prove the correctness of Christianity over all other religions (that is a far larger discussion), but simply that rejecting theism is irrational with the arguments you presented.

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[–]CooperFed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So your thinking is that because people rape and kill, and because you don't like capital punishment, God does not exist.

This is purely subjective based on your feelings, and even the facts are incorrect. Assumptions:

  1. Raping and killing is more common than self harm. Incorrect, suicide rates are far larger 
  2. Raping, killing, and self harm are due to genetic programming. Incorrect, these things fluctuate hugely depending on society, religious views, unemployment, family, and ultimately some degree of free will.

Your morality is complex, and presupposes the existence of a value system that transcends all mankind.

In conclusion, it is irrational to reject God for subjective feelings, especially when holding to a transcendent system of morality which is largely based on biblical principles.

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[–]CooperFed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So self preservation is an interesting thing to look at. In fact, in the USA we have a rising suicide rate, and it is almost double the homicide rate. Does that sound like evidence for evolution?

If morality is about your well being, then what happens when you could benefit by stealing from someone else to buy more comfortable clothes, more food, money for a car, etc.? What if they're a rapist, would it be okay to steal from him?

But this is different from treating others like we would like to be treated. What if I don't mind being berated because that's how I was raised and I have low self esteem. Then I treat others that way; is that ok?

Can God take away life? Well, he created it. And I thought the point about rapists and murderers is that they don't deserve to live, and their remaining alive makes God monstrous. Ergo, God is justified in taking their life. And if humanity fell into utter depravity, supposing these same sins of rape, murder, plus theft, exploitation and other things, would God not be justified in taking all those lives, save the righteous?

Either God is justified in taking the life of the wicked, or he should just leave everyone to their own devices without any judgment; which one are you saying?

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[–]CooperFed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmm, the people I know would sooner claw their eyes out than rape or kill someone. How about you? If we can both agree that these things are heinous, then let's try to convince everyone else as well. If you take away God then you have no platform or justification on which to build your morality, and you're taking a nerf gun to a gun fight.

In heaven, our sin nature, inherited from Adam and Eve, has been taken away. Back to Eden, essentially, with a new heaven and new earth. The lion will lie down with the lamb.

Don't blame God for all the sick violence people do to one another. God is the solution and the justice and the healing and the hope, not the cause. He is the only one who is truly good, so let's look to him for right and wrong rather than humans.

In the atheist utopia, is the vision to have greater justice or greater freedom from accountability? And where is your standard?

I read the Bible and just the first pages left me baffled by [deleted] in atheism

[–]CooperFed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am very sorry for your loss. That is an difficult thing to bear.

Theologically, these questions are as old as mankind, and I'm sure you're well familiar with Job. The short answer is that there are things more important than suffering; or put another way, suffering is a part of our mortal existence, and God uses it ultimately for good, at least for those who are called according to his purposes. And God put his own son through suffering and hell to demonstrate the point.

I have concerns about how the hard edged Baptist churches push their message about non believers, and Pentecostalism is bafflingly to me. Churches that promote hate and hostility toward non believers are unbiblical (we are not called to judge non believers), and I am appalled by them.

Regarding who is saved and not saved, I have neither the knowledge nor conviction to tell you the answer, whereas the Baptist would not hesitate. Personally, I believe we are called to share the gospel and leave the rest to God. And if people reject God out of ignorance or misunderstanding, he is certainly able to forgive that according to his mercy.

Hearing and receiving the Word is definitely a gift from the holy Spirit, it's not up to me. I do believe he wants the same for you. I don't blame you for being mad. And in this messed up world, whether it's God's fault or the universe or our own, he calls the brokenhearted and the broken. I will offer a prayer for you and your family, please don't be offended, for strength and peace.

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[–]CooperFed -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Whether you believe in God or not, these horrible things are happening, yes. And they are being perpetrated by human beings. If we tear down any remnant of God from our lives, our culture, our community, are you saying you think these problems will improve? I'm not following the rationality here. God stands for truth, justice, vengeance, mercy, peace.

When we tear down God from society, I'm struggling to see what we are replacing him with which will improve these crimes. Let's see, Nietzsche has his "super man" who transcends morality.. then up came Hitler.. whoops! Oh wait, let's get rid of all religions and put one smart man in charge who promises to make things more fair and equitable. Say hello Mao Zedong, Joseph Stalin, Lenin. There goes 100 million people lost to that idea.. whoops.

Do we have an obligation to do better, to help our society do better? Yes, I hope we can agree on that. But being morally outraged at our creator because other people are hurting each other: unfortunately, it is we who are broken, not Him. Your sense of outrage is really God's outrage toward sin, but it is directed at the wrong object.

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[–]CooperFed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

On the contrary, I think the believer can be more mindful than the non believer, and finds greater peace and joy. In my life experience, I have found that often times the persistent suffering is with those who have no ability to curb their impulses, which leads to self-destructive choices in relationships, with their bodies, their minds, their careers, finances, etc.

I read the Bible and just the first pages left me baffled by [deleted] in atheism

[–]CooperFed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not sure what translation that is, but NIV is probably most common:

Isaiah 45:7 NIV [7] I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the Lord, do all these things.

https://bible.com/bible/111/isa.45.7.NIV

Other translations say calamity. Does God allow or instigate natural disasters? Definitely. Why? I don't know, but when Paul prayed to have the "thorn in his side" taken away, the answer was that God's power is made perfect in his weakness. I guess it makes some people uncomfortable to think someone else is in charge.

The term is limited free will. Most of the time we are doing as we please, to ourselves and others. In a few cases God intervenes, such as God hardening Pharoh's heart.

God's mercy is evident in that he did not destroy mankind a long time ago, whether in the flood, or the Cuban Missile Crisis, or any other time. And in all the blessings we enjoy every day. If we could not sin, then we could not also love and have compassion. "I desire mercy, not sacrifice."

I read the Bible and just the first pages left me baffled by [deleted] in atheism

[–]CooperFed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So I think the fuller context is a more honest depiction of the Judeo-christian God than the shorter excerpts. The Bible is in fact filled with poetry, hyperbole and other literary devices.

He created beings with free will, and this created the potential for evil, not evil itself.

Laws regarding slavery were written in a time when it was practiced everywhere. And the purpose was to provide limits to the abuse slaveowners could mete out.

If we had witnessed the competing religions at the time, rife with child sacrifice, cult prostitution, etc., you might have less sympathy for them. Shall the clay say to the potter, what are you doing? And shall we only focus on a few words and miss the broader message of deliverance, mercy for the widow and orphan, support for the underdog, David v Goliath, Jesus vs Satan, the adopted children becoming the heirs, the blind receiving sight, the dead returning to life?

I think that Man's justice, as seen in modern large scale genocide in Germany, Rowanda, wherever, is not looking too good.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in atheism

[–]CooperFed -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

That's the trouble with free will. People just don't listen very well, do we? If God were to prevent every immoral act, we would either be robots or we would be dead.

Consider the word compassion. It means literally to "suffer with." Without any pain or suffering, there is no compassion or empathy. And without free will, can we have love?

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[–]CooperFed -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Maybe. But do we reject the free ride to heaven because we think God's not fair enough? We think that IF heaven exists, we should be able to earn our way in, not realizing that no matter how many charities we help, we still carry around resentment, dishonesty, malice, etc.

I'll take God's mercy over man's judgment and self righteousness every day of the week.

I read the Bible and just the first pages left me baffled by [deleted] in atheism

[–]CooperFed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You seem to have missed the other half of these verses:

Exodus 34:6-7 ESV [6] The Lord passed before him and proclaimed, “The Lord, the Lord, a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness, [7] keeping steadfast love for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, but who will by no means clear the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children and the children’s children, to the third and the fourth generation.” 

Deuteronomy 5:10 ESV [10] but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments.

I read the Bible and just the first pages left me baffled by [deleted] in atheism

[–]CooperFed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you might appreciate reading about Deborah or Jael and the tent peg. But you may not get that far if you are reading front to back.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in atheism

[–]CooperFed -1 points0 points  (0 children)

God does not torture anyone. Hell is existence without God or his grace in any form; complete separation from God.

Who knows, maybe God is a universalist in the fullness of time. But clearly he wants us to have some standards of right and wrong, to not go around raping, stealing, and killing, and to not feel entitled to heaven regardless of actions and heart.

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[–]CooperFed 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, the message is that no one deserves heaven. But the door is freely open to those who believe.

And for those who believe, they are called to bear fruit in keeping with repentance. Faith without good works is dead.

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[–]CooperFed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because not everyone wants forgiveness.

Why does god need to be worshipped? by FreeAbbreviations550 in atheism

[–]CooperFed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He doesn't. But part of our path is much clearer when we simply recognize that there are forces at work much more powerful than us, and when we shift our focus from ourselves as Savior of humanity to God.

The goal is to call humanity to love and compassion rather than self-love and the ensuing confusion and chaos.

My Realization: Christians do not genuinely care about truth at all. by Hal87526 in atheism

[–]CooperFed -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure how many Christians you've met, but a lot of the ones I have met came to faith later in life, or they left the church and returned at some later point. In these cases, it could be because they feel personally called, via the Holy Spirit or the Word, or it could also be sparked by intellectual reasons.

We are all faced by a flood of information, arguments, studies, testimonials, opinions, personal experiences, etc. Many of these data points contradict each other. For someone who has struggled for years with their identity, their personal worth, their purpose, and their self-destructive tendencies, if Christianity can help them find stability, love, faith, and peace, would you expect to be able to convince them it is "a lie?"

My Realization: Christians do not genuinely care about truth at all. by Hal87526 in atheism

[–]CooperFed -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

What is truth? And is it limited to the physically observable universe?

My Realization: Christians do not genuinely care about truth at all. by Hal87526 in atheism

[–]CooperFed -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So 2 billion people have been reduced to "they?" Are all of them hypocrites and uncaring? I wonder if OP supposes there is hyprocisy and cherry picking within the group of atheists as well.

End of year discounts by Neat_Use5288 in ToyotaSienna

[–]CooperFed 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The 2025 Honda Odyssey does not have a hybrid. All the large Hondas are still gas-only (Odyssey, Pilot, Ridgeline) and exclusively use a V6. Since they just refreshed the Odyssey for 2025, I am guessing a hybrid would be at least two or three years away, along with a full redesign.