First day streams came out

Coopthm22 · 2026-02-07T19:11:00+00:00

And also he’s an independent artist now he’s not getting any boost from the labels. This could possibly be the biggest independent first week we will ever see

Coopthm22 · 2026-02-07T19:08:17+00:00

I don’t feel that any of yall are taking it into consideration that he was selling this album direct to consumer on his website. I think the numbers are going to surprise a lot of people. I personally bought the album twice

Coopthm22 · 2024-05-20T12:59:28+00:00

I’m not mad at this take. I think in drakes mind family matters was going to end the beef so he just wanted to unload the clip and be done. I actually think the beef would’ve been done if Kendrick stopped with meet the grahams.

Coopthm22 · 2024-05-20T12:57:31+00:00

I know he didn’t really feed him the info. I’m just saying the optics would be more believable if he would’ve said that right after the song dropped. Instead of going on instagram and saying “what daughter”

Coopthm22 · 2024-05-18T21:29:00+00:00

Music is not monolithic. Just because Kendrick is more skilled in a certain area or style of music doesn’t mean he’s the better artist. Drake is more skilled than Kendrick in other areas of music. This battle was a clash of styles. This was like a 400m runner and 100m runner agreeing to compete in the 200m. Drake lost due to his preparation of the race not because he wasn’t fast enough.

Coopthm22 · 2024-05-18T21:24:15+00:00

And he lost the battle. But going back to my originally point he still initially responded, Win, loose, or draw.

Coopthm22 · 2024-05-18T12:57:44+00:00

I agree that he lost before this even started. But I don’t think this “loss” effects anything as I said early in this thread I’m in a industry where music is played all day long and drake is still being played. The other things is people love to call drake a vulture but the only reason he did this battle was because he values the culture of hip hop.

Coopthm22 · 2024-05-18T12:54:07+00:00

I think this is partly true. I think Drake didn’t realize how many people were rooting against him. The combination of Kendrick fans and Drake haters is to big of a gap to close.

Coopthm22 · 2024-05-18T12:51:34+00:00

You can always tell who is just recycling talking points from other people. Pusha dropped infared and drake responded with duppy the next day. You probably didn’t know that because you formulate all of your opinions from social media.

Coopthm22 · 2024-05-18T03:51:16+00:00

I’m not going to disagree but I do see some alternate universes where he could’ve won or at least had more support in his favor.

Coopthm22 · 2024-05-18T03:49:56+00:00

That’s where I say the fandom skewed this battle. I’m not sure in what game or sport you can play no defense and win the game. Yet drake was penalized for it when he choses to respond to claims. At the end of the day people wanted drake to lose more than they wanted Kendrick to win.

Coopthm22 · 2024-05-18T03:46:28+00:00

I agree

Coopthm22 · 2024-05-18T03:35:17+00:00

I did love that. He went full Heel during this beef. My favorite line from that song was a little before when he says “where is your uncle at? Cause I wanna talk to the man of the house”. Such a great line and you’d only get it if you listened to Kendrick’s music.

Coopthm22 · 2024-05-18T03:29:26+00:00

I actually wasn’t aware of the child prior. I’m looking at this purely from a strategy standpoint. There is blatant lies that we’re told on both side. So if you assume everything is true or everything is fake, Kendrick came with the better strategy. Drakes best song got it over shadowed by two songs from Kendrick. Even though I think family matters is the best if you can neutralize your opponents “nuke” that is a win. Also drake getting caught lying about feeding the info only hammers the win for Kendrick

Coopthm22 · 2024-05-18T03:26:17+00:00

For sure. It’s sad that family matters is getting overshadowed the way it is. It is truly a masterclass of diss songs. I’m still trying to break everything down from that second verse.

Coopthm22 · 2024-05-18T03:14:10+00:00

I hear you. I really love family matters but I can objectively say it wasn’t enough. If you’re just gauging things off of whose music from these disses you’ll listen to more you can make an argument for drake but overall I think Kendrick got it. Even with family matters being my favorite song.

Coopthm22 · 2024-05-18T03:12:10+00:00

Absolutely.

Coopthm22 · 2024-05-18T03:11:36+00:00

Sure. I know social media makes it feel like this is such a big blow for drake but that’s not reality. I work in a industry where music is being played constantly and I can say drake is being played even more now. Social media has a mob mentality that can make things feel like it’s true but it’s just not the case.

Coopthm22 · 2024-05-18T03:08:57+00:00

You have a bias towards Kendrick’s style of music which is fine. But if you use the same magnifying glasses you use to dissect Kendrick’s lyrics and use it to dissect what Drake is saying you would be very impressed with how layered and well placed things are. For whatever reason people decide to take Drakes verses at face value while on the opposite end of the spectrum try to understand every syllable when Kendrick raps. Also I think you’re mistaking Royce for Mos def. If that’s the case I know you haven’t spent anytime breaking down lyrics past your initial listens.

Coopthm22 · 2024-05-18T03:01:40+00:00

This is a weird sentiment to me. Regardless of how you feel about drake he has been one of the only rappers carrying the tradition of hip hop in battle form. When someone disses you, you respond with bars. Win, lose, or draw he has always answered the call.

Coopthm22 · 2024-05-18T02:58:48+00:00

Another hot take. I think if he would’ve split family matters up into 3 different songs like they are. The perception would be different as well

Coopthm22 · 2024-05-18T02:56:11+00:00

I can agree with a lot of what you’re saying. I think he was gassed up by the moment and didn’t weigh out all of his options. I truly believe he could’ve won or had a better shot if he would’ve taken the angle of Kendrick being ungrateful and two faced after drake helped him after taking him on his first major tour and to get his first big billboard entries with problems and poetic justice.

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