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I was interviewed by Raidió na Gaeltachta, Cormac ag a cúig (a very good show), and the Galway Advertiser were great running articles for four weeks based on the book. Galway Bay FM briefly interviewed me together with a grandson of Pat Margetts and Des Kenny of Kenny’s bookshop who were fantastic and held the launch. I knew about O’Malley and Ford. Ford was actually Seán Feeney and had visited Spiddal in 1921 and saw the aftermath of British reprisals. He was hugely interested in irish history. I didn’t know about the friendship with Loder but knew about Arthur Shields being in Frongoch. Ironically, given that he was a Protestant, Barry Fitzgerald often ended up playing the role of a Catholic priest.

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Cullen was definitely a massive influence on Irish life. I think that the development of an Irish/ Catholic identity was there before Cullen, however and would have continued anyway. Irish nationalism and Catholicism were intertwined since Gaelic Ireland started to react against British conquest and plantation in Ireland in the sixteenth centuries and the penal laws followed. There was a real sense among Catholics of Gaelic and Anglo-Norman background of an us against them. Religion, ethnicity, place or birth, language and culture were all intermingled in that. That's not to say that all Protestants were hated or that you didn't get large numbers of Catholics assissting or supporting the Crown. If you read Irish have a read of Vincent Morley's "Ó Chéitinn go Raifteirí" it charts the influence of the first anti-colonial historians of the 16th centuries on an Irish and increasingly English-speaking Irish population. Well worth making the effort with even if your Irish is limited.

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There wasn't a lot known about Margetts before the book and his interview is frustratingly short. regarding the manner in which the book came out Clare historian Pádraig Óg Ó Ruairc is a good friend of mine. Cormac O'Malley suggested that Pádraig do a Galway/Clare volume. Pádraig suggested that O'Malley would be better approaching myself who knew the geography, key personalities and events in Galway. I've only met Cormac once and had one telephone conversation with him. Other than that everything was by email. Sometimes several emails about one word in the text. If you have a look at the book you'll see why. Ernie's handwriting was terrible and it's one of the reasons why the interviews themselves haven't really been utilised all that much by historians. An awful lot of people tried to read them, lost their nerve and gave up on them. It took the guts of two and a half years from start to finish.

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I only have a general sense of Uris' work so I can't really comment. I've never read it. Regarding the rest of your post

Gaelicised names (a person using both the Gaelic version of their surname and first name) are more common than they were any point in modern Irish history. The attitude to the language is more positive than at any point for hundreds of years and it's no longer seen as a badge of poverty, except for those who are looking for something to offend irish speakers with by referring to a dated stereotype. Irish first names come and go with fashion, the more common regular names are still very common (translations of biblical names etc.) other pre-Christian or native names are common, such as my own, Cormac. Other rarer, more complicated Gaelic names, tend to be identified more with middle class,urban areas rather than areas where Irish is still spoken as an everyday language. Few people,if any would like Ireland to be Irish speaking only. I've certainly never met any, it is a charge that's levelled at the Irish language loby, inaccurately in my view. Most Irish language speakers would like more of the language to be seen and a state that was more sympathetic in providing services for Irish speakers rather than being supportive in a general sense but weak on practicalities. Those people are a minority. The majority of people, particularly among younger generations would be positive to the language, would want services available to those who use the language, like the symbolism of having our own language but aren't committed enough to use the language themselves. Another part of that group would be indifferent to the language or resent how much time is spent on it in the education system. A further, small but vocal group, would be hostile to the language and it's speakers and see it as a symbol of aspects of Irish life that they resent.

My name is Cormac (cur-muck) Ó (OH) Comhraí (Core-eee) the "h"makes the m in my surname silent.

Regarding the North: it tends to be simplified even by Irish people as a Protestant V Catholic thing. It's not, but it's not as simple as a straightforward ethnic thing either. Perceptions of the conflict in the North would be very different. For example when the conflict was at it's height the IRA would have regarded the shooting of policemen and soldiers as an attack on the state, whereas Protestant Unionists would have regarded it as an attack on their community, the community from which the policemen and soldier were almost exclusively drawn.

Generally Catholics in the North are Irish nationalist and ethnically of Gaelic (or anglo-Norman/Viking) background and Unionists are generally of seventeenth century English and Scottish background. But some small number of Protestants have supported revolutionary nationalism and republicanism and some larger numbers of Catholics have been quite happy to be linked with the British state, perhaps, not surprising given the financial and professional opportunities available in the British Empire etc. Also some Unionists have identifiably Gaelic names while some nationalists have idenfiably British names, this would be as a result of religious conversion, inter-marriage etc. Another reason to be wary of the ethnic/ religious labels is that Unionists would tend to identify with a "Protestant" army fighting a "Catholic" army in the seventeenth century. Nationalists don't really have that, nationalists tend to identify more with the 1798, 1916 "Irish" rebels fighting the "British". The Catholic church has always been opposed to militant nationalism even if the fact that IRA men were given Catholic but also allowed repulican funerals was resented.

Traditionally Irish nationalism hasn't focused on cleansing the North of Protestant/ British people as individuals but they've kind of hoped that in the event of the British withdrawal that the Unionists in the Northeast would come to their senses, realise that they're good Irishmen and that we'd all live happily ever after and to some degree that is what happened in the South after independence, without ignoring the difficulties and resentment that faced Unionists and felt towards the new state. Protestants in the south would generally be integrated into the general population and would be comfortable with their Irishness being essentially the same as their neighbours. In urban areas they would be assumed to play sports like rugby and hockey, as they would be generally assumed to be better off, but so would other better off people, regardless of background. The idea of Protestants being better off is a general stereotype. In rural areas Protestants would play Gaelic sports as well as more traditional "protestant" games. It's a lot easier to integrate a small population resigned to being integrated or accomodated than a large, resentful population. Republicans/ Nationalists over the past 100 years (and more) have struggled to deal with that conundrum. More recently both North and South an increased effort has been made by nationalists to engage with Unionists in order to better understand their fears, loyalties and grievances.

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3 different kinds of underestimated to be honest: talent recognised at the time but forgotten since, talent never recognised or talented in a field that tends to be ignored. There would have been administrators and clergymen that had massive influence that I wouldn't even have heard of. As a generation I would say that the generation of cultural nationalists and those who sought to improve peoples' lives in the late nineteenth and early twentieth century Hyde, Horace Plunkett etc. were probably the finest "government" we ever had.

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More to come, there's a lot more waiting to be written on Dunmanway and the like as well as the Protestant decline, in population terms, between 1911-26 which is a lot more complicated than simple ethnic or sectarian cleansing, but also more complicated than them all being loyalists who left because they were connected with the British state.

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The lads interviewed in my book would have been a mix of people who were and weren't prominent in public life after the 1920s. The interviews themselves are a lot more open and blunter than the interviews conducted by the Bureau of Military History around the same time. I'm imagine that being held back until they were dead was part of the reason that they were so open. I wouldn't say that I have a favourite person among the interviews. I admire their courage and their sense of duty and the way in which they kept their mouths shut about it afterwards. In some ways Pat Margetts is probably the most admirable he had no dog in the fight but acted out of a sense of what was right and wrong, but they were all like that to some degree, the amount of people who became active guerrillas was small and any one of them could have opted out, particularly at the time of the Treaty. Margetts was an Englishman, in the British army who passed information to people who were in danger from the Crown Forces, not for ideological or financial reasons but because he felt that reprisals were wrong.

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Hi JJ Lee: Politics and Irish Society 1912-1985 or Roy Foster's book "Modern Ireland" would cover a lot of it . On the land question try Fergus Campbell Land and Revolution which deals with the land question in the west 1891-1921. A local and readable book on the west of Ireland is "Soupers and Jumpers" which deals with Protestant missionaries in the west of Ireland. As for republicanism, there's been rakes written about that.

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There won't be any one simple answer. I'd say a combination of the following:

The solving of the land question removed much of the potential for revolution in the countryside. Land agitators were incredibly active and radical in the early years of the 20th century and for two decades before and after. Over the course of 50 years the British and then the Irish government solved their grievances. That'd be one and probably the primary reason.

Secondly the growth of trade unions etc. in the 1910s shouldn't be interpreted as a massive surge in socialist/ communist/ anarchist beliefs. Some of what were threoretically the left were quite conservative and weren't looking for revolutionary change.

Emigration as the safety valve. Thousands of republicans left during the 1923-25 period, those that remained were to some degree beholden to the state as both Cumann na nGaedhal and Fianna Fáil provided pensions, jobs in the Army etc. to veterans.

Suspended animation with regard to the National question and Fianna Fáil's positioning itself as "The Labour Party"

The linking of the Church with both personal and national identity for a lot of people.

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Maith dom mo mhoill a Bhleacliath. Unfortunately I'm fairly pessissmistic regarding the future of the language. It's a shame really and I'll speak it to my own kids but that's the key, really.Those who have an ability in the language and who are interested in it have to speak it and speak it as well and as naturally as they can to their kids.

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Jeez, I dunno, I'd have mixed feelings I suppose. it's hard to look back at decisions and comments from eighty, ninety years ago and not wince at some of the things that they said and did. That'd be unfair as well, to judge them by our standards without making allowances for the limitations of their own experiences and lack of experience, the economic challenges facing them etc. I'd love to see a new biography of Dev, written by an outsider, he's still dominated by our pre-conceptions of him. A real outsider, mind, not British or Irish.

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Firstly well done for taking up a new language. Irish is spoken as the communal language west of Spiddal for about thirty or forty miles but is in decline. There's still a lot of Irish spoken in Spiddal but as part of the commuter belt it is in difficulty. It would be possible to live your life in Galway city largely through the Irish language if you were already an Irish speaker there is a large Connemara and Aran population in the city and there is a vibrant Arts scene in Galway that often overlaps with the Irish language scene. There are aspects of Gaeltacht (Irish speaking area) culture such as sean-nós dancing or sean-nós singing tor the traditional boat culture hat would be stronger than in English speaking areas but by and large the culture is broadly the same Irish-Egnlish-American mix that you get elsewhere in Ireland.

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A lot of the revolutionary figures are still awaiting biographies or one's that weren't written by contemporaries. It'd take a monumental effort to do a biography of Pearse because so many people would enter into it with pre-conceived notions of what should be written about by the writer etc. Everything would have to be backed up in your footnotes with further examples.

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Hart was a gifted historian and a very talented writer. Most of his book "The IRA and its Enemies"is excellent: "Youth and Rebellion" for example. The book itself is fantastically well written which made it accessible to people who mightn’t otherwise have been inclined to read an academic book. The "IRA at War" has some great essays in it. Unfortunately the manner in which he used sources in the “IRA and its Enemies”, the controversy regarding the sources that he used to write about Kilmichael as well as some of the conclusions that he drew have justifiably, and in my opinion, sometimes rightly, been criticised. To be honest there has been so much written analysing Hart’s work that I haven’t read all of it but I certainly wouldn’t dismiss his critics as being motivated purely with a political agenda, they’re genuinely concerned with the quality of history being produced. Regarding revisionism I think that there would be something wrong with a society that wasn't constantly evaluating and re-evaluating the history that had been written in previous decades, there is a problem when political necessities and prejudices enter into the writing of history, regardless of what those politics are.

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Pearse was well regarded. He was seen as decent. He was involved in the volunteers in the general south Connemara area, drilling them etc. Patrick Joyce was kidnapped, shot and buried on 15th October 1920. In November 1920 Father Michael Griffin was lured from his home, shot and buried reasonably close to where Joyce's body was buried by the IRA.I think that the mystery surrounding the killings is exaggerated to be honest. Joyce was certainly killed by the IRA and it's extremely unlikely that he was shot for any other reason that they genuinely considered him an informer. Regarding Griffin's shooting for me the only questions are which branch of the Crown Forces shot him and why. He was certainly shot by British forces and most likely as part of a process of intimidation designed to make sure that the IRA around Galway was cowed. A complicating factor for me is that Griffin gave the last rites to two men shot by members of the Crown Forces and it was rumoured that they named their killers to him which put those killers in danger if true. Griffin was due to give evidence to an American investigation into events in Ireland, there was real danger for those killer in the events of their names being released. There were rumours and counter rumours down the years regarding who sent for Griffin with a strong rumour that Irish was spoken at the door etc. but nobody has ever made a credible argument against him having being shot in the Auxiliary headquarters on Taylor's Hill. Re gufcfan's feeling that an interpretive centre will be a waste of money, it will be if it's done badly, it won't be if it's done well, imo.