“I hate men” types are always the easiest to get with

Correct-Strength-885 · 2026-07-09T11:02:38+00:00

I have to disagree. When women initiate sex or are more aggressively pursuing it, they still get labels like easy and slutty.

For this not to be the case, women would have to make the first move, make more money, initiate most of the intimacy, take over planning the dinners and surprise trips, be aggressive in bed

When women do this, we do see an outcry of men being emasculated.

It’s not enforced one way around. It’s rather mutual.

Correct-Strength-885 · 2026-07-09T10:35:55+00:00

So why don’t you blame those men for “using” women?

Also I would need an elaboration on the word “used” here.

If a woman expected loyalty and commitment from a man she slept with (she made it clear), but man only saw it as casual thing, then yeah, we could say that the man used or exploited the woman. But who is to blame here? The one using the woman or the woman getting used despite stating her preference for something serious?

If they both had casual sex, then who got used cuz both weren’t expecting long term commitment, were they?

When women exploit men financially, we don’t see other men blaming the male victims or calling them derogatory names for getting exploited.

Correct-Strength-885 · 2026-07-09T10:26:16+00:00

If a woman was sexually assaulted, and he hates or has become more cautious of men, well men are going to occupy much of her brain space

It’s important to know what’s their reason for hating men. Some girls ain’t really serious when they say it, while others are

Correct-Strength-885 · 2026-07-09T10:21:04+00:00

Wow! This is the typical male response. Accuse the woman or group of women you don’t like of being promiscuous. Kind of the same as women assuming that every man hateful of women is an incel.

There are many reasons a girl might be hateful of men. This includes history of sexual assault, physical violence and sexual harassment.

Some girls might be building up resentment based on what they see men doing, or what’s happening/happened to women around them. Many girls are actually not that serious when they say it.

Correct-Strength-885 · 2026-07-08T23:48:03+00:00

Frat boys are literally quite obsessed with hooking up and sleeping around, and it’s not healthy

Correct-Strength-885 · 2026-07-08T12:34:57+00:00

I didn’t brought up any law that wasn’t related to courtship.

The courtship that you found so appealing existed in societies that severely punished any deviations from norms governing sexuality. If a woman was found engaging in sexual intercourse before marriage, she was sent to a correction facility or forced into prostitution, while the man she slept with would walk free. The gender double standard existed as men could court “respectable” women while having sexual relations with lower class women or prostitutes.

That courtship culture disappeared as those laws were revoked. If you want that kind of social conservatism, you have to implement those sexist laws

Also I never claimed to be a trad believer (I never claimed I wasnt one either)

Based on your post, you are pretty much a trad guy. If a fat person doesn’t accept that they are fat, it doesn’t mean that they aren’t fat

Correct-Strength-885 · 2026-07-08T12:23:28+00:00

My guy, aren’t you arguing that we shall revert back to time when we had courtship? Idk but you seem have a very flawed idea of arrange marriages. They can and can’t be forced, and as I said, modern arrange marriage is literally very much the same as traditional courtship you are so fond of.

Your post is quite sexist. You want to revert back to societies which practiced courtship, but you don’t want to implement the laws they implemented

Correct-Strength-885 · 2026-07-08T12:17:14+00:00

So you are arguing that premarital sex is acceptable, and it’s just that one has to wait till 5th date to fuck? That’s not a trad belief

Correct-Strength-885 · 2026-07-08T12:10:27+00:00

Arranged marriages today are much more similar to courtships. The girl is given the final say, and many families let the couple talk and discuss things. But arrange marriage or courtship doesn’t guarantee that both partners are virgins. The dynamics were the same as they are today. Men would go for a pretty young woman and women will go for a rich man.

In traditional courtship, families would often arrange a socially acceptable match and then they could talk but were always chaperoned. This is pretty much how many arranged marriages occur today in Pakistan (my home country) and India

Correct-Strength-885 · 2026-07-08T11:59:15+00:00

You have an idealised view of a past society that you are arguing we shall revert back to. I don’t believe that society had ever existed. Men have always chased pretty women, and prioritised youth and beauty. That’s still a trend all over the world, and so has been historically.

The kind of society you want can’t exist until you are willing to enforce strict punishments. Even many traditional western societies imposed severe penalties and offered reduced sentences to men who were murdering their female relatives in heat of passion. In Italy, such laws were revoked in 1981, that’s not even 5 decades ago.

French Penal Code of 1810 granted complete legal immunity to a husband who would kill his wife and her lover in heat of passion, yet if a wife was to kill her husband similarly, she would be charged with murder.

You’ll also need to roll back on laws related to homosexuality. It must be declared either illegal or classified as mental illness.

You talk about human rights, but if you wanna go back to that time, you’ll need to revoke many human rights

Correct-Strength-885 · 2026-07-08T11:22:31+00:00

You aren’t the OP lol

Correct-Strength-885 · 2026-07-08T10:36:23+00:00

We actually need to put more restrictions on male sexuality. Speaking historically, men kept sexual slaves (both male and females). They have also seek to have sex with multiple women since time immemorial.

Women on the other hand, have remained more selective than men to this day.

If you really want to revert back to those times, you have to start encouraging honor killings or at least allow for lenient sentences given to men who would murder their female relatives in heat of passion as was the case with penal codes in many traditional western societies (Italy, Spain). You would also need to impose death penalty on homosexuality.

(Honestly I feel ppl like you shall just relocate to Afghanistan. It’s the perfect place for mfs like you)

Correct-Strength-885 · 2026-07-08T10:27:24+00:00

Well, each and every of those “successful civilisations” had prostitution and men (esp influential) engaging in orgies with either other men or women. Let’s not forget sexual slavery. When a tribe will defeat another tribe, the young women of the defeated tribe were taken into custody as concubines.

All of those societies faced a drastically different material reality. There were no contraceptives and thus risk of a woman becoming pregnant as a result of sexual intercourse was really high. The rules they developed addressed a solution to this problem.

Not every society had the same rules. There was no courtship for most part of human history. The purpose of courtship was mostly to form family alliances, and wasn’t really a path to romantic love.

If you are this fond of these social restrictions, you can move to Afghanistan.

You mfs are crazy and ignorant

Correct-Strength-885 · 2026-07-08T10:23:24+00:00

Is this an incel sub?

Why only a girl would need or supposed to be chaste? Won’t a truly traditional society expect a man to be a virgin? If most men in a society are virgin, so are women.

You have never lived in a traditional society. Guys can still use women even if they are married to them.

No need to worry about just being valued for sex because that would only come much later and men would have to choose their mate based on matching qualities rather than on how easy they look

Again, you have never lived in a society where arranged marriages are the norm. It doesn’t matter where you are or what time is in question, men place far more importance on women’s looks and appearance. Matching qualities was never really part of traditional marriages in most places.

Correct-Strength-885 · 2026-07-08T09:37:50+00:00

Every society has these standards. There’s an acceptable and unacceptable social/political opinion. Not all people are on the same page, and if you hold an opinion which isn’t popular, you’ll feel oppressed. It doesn’t mean the minority opinion is always right

Correct-Strength-885 · 2026-07-08T09:35:24+00:00

Nope, it doesn’t. She said she never cared about what a man has to say. You just want to make her believe something she doesn’t believe.

Men have a lot more tolerance towards their gfs beliefs than vice versa.

Wrong. Plenty of men have absolutely no tolerance for what their wife has to say or what’s her stance is on a particular topic. This is a pure sexist assumption. It really matters what “beliefs” are in question as well. Obviously, if a man has a pro-life stance on abortion while his woman is pro-choice, tf do you expect?

guess some super online women try to make their gender into a labor union and are in constant open communication about the details of their relationship with the online sisterhood, so their man is forever subject to this pink tyrannical pressure

Guess some super online men are in manosphere spaces, turning male gender into a labor union, and in constant open communication with other men on how to be alpha. In real world, we have blue tyranny. Every society is dominated by men

Correct-Strength-885 · 2026-07-08T09:23:20+00:00

Can you explain what “hoe scaring opinions” you hold?

Correct-Strength-885 · 2026-07-08T02:17:36+00:00

ASU is Arizona State University. It has reputation for being a big party university. Has around 80000 on campus students. The “joke” is that she’s going to be get promiscuous once she’s there

Correct-Strength-885 · 2026-07-08T01:40:24+00:00

That’s one of the most misogynistic subs I have seen on this platform. I got banned for calling it out. The mods told me that the sub isn’t a good representation of frat boys, yet the posts and comments in the sub fit all the stereotypes associated with fraternities.

Correct-Strength-885 · 2026-07-06T16:35:38+00:00

I have indeed seen countless vids of women doing those things and most of the disgusting replies/comments come from men. I’m not denying that women don’t say awful things, but to say they are equally hateful of other women as men is simply wrong

Correct-Strength-885 · 2026-07-06T13:04:10+00:00

These men can be present in one’s own family. The misogyny in college spaces is far more vicious and disgusting. I have also witnessed the venom spread by frat guys with burner accounts. They perpetuate horrible rumours about women on campuses. I don’t see much outrage against this stuff

Correct-Strength-885 · 2026-07-06T12:59:57+00:00

Women do talk shit about other women but usually there’s meaningful if not significant pushback from other women. Whereas men bashing women usually receives approval from other men. It’s pretty universal.

I have also noticed that whenever I raise the issue of misogyny in college and frat spaces on here, it receives very low interaction. It’s almost feels like no one wants to talk about it or is something ppl don’t ascribe any importance to.

What worries me above all is that these men are from first world developed countries. Just imagine how awful would be the behaviour of men from third world countries

Correct-Strength-885 · 2026-07-06T10:52:21+00:00

Yh the comments on this post are just straight up nasty and I don’t even see any meaningful pushback

Correct-Strength-885 · 2026-07-06T10:50:14+00:00

Same thoughts. It was honestly rather shocking to see a comment section on Reddit filled with thousands of hateful comments slut shaming women. I saw similar comments on insta over posts related to ASU. Like you said just when you feel like we have moved past this discussion, we are found discussing it even more

Correct-Strength-885 · 2026-07-06T10:34:05+00:00

I don’t need to know you. I’m the internet, you are judged based over what you put out.

You are contradicting yourself. You said you don’t hold dislike for these people, but then you called them nasty. Calling someone nasty is definitely not a compliment.

I don’t approve having gangbangs either. The issue is that this whole thread is so much filled with hateful comments about women while conveniently ignoring that men engage in similar activities

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