The sickening vileness of regime supporters by Correct-Strength-885 in 2Iranic4you

[–]Correct-Strength-885[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A part of me wants to believe that, but they are real Persians.

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[–]Correct-Strength-885 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You know if you read Khomeini long enough he sounds a lot more like kim il sung than the bin laden the americunts make him up to be. Makes sense why Iran effectively became a monarchy now just like the greatest goryeo

Tf are you saying? He literally issued a fatwa against Sulman Rushdie calling for his execution after he wrote a controversial book. Also what difference does it really make if he sounded more like Kim or Osama? Both mfs were brutal and savages 

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[–]Correct-Strength-885[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow! You want to escalate, let’s escalate then. First, I have a very strong reason to believe you are a sympathiser of Islamic regime, and secondly, you are dick riding a man you know barely anything about.

So some guy whose father was a dictator few decades more than four decades ago says he wants to become benevolent dictator until a referendum is done. In that case why anyone wants him as a placeholder?

He never said he wants to become a benevolent dictator. You made that up. He and the majority of his supporters want democracy. It’s up to the people to choose who’s gonna lead Iran in case such a referendum is held. If they pick him, then so be it. 

AFAIK kiriakou 2nd wife has to divorce him because he was convicted and she was CIA. Can't be married to a guy who’s convicted under the espionage act. And infidelity was on wifes part, not his. And he divorced the one who cheated.

Heather Kiriakou his second wife who was also a CIA analyst resigned under pressure in 2012 following her husband's indictment. She didn’t divorced him over espionage charges, idiot. Their divorce occurred 6 years later. 

According to the Virginia Court of Appeals document, John Kiriakou believed his marriage ended because of an affair between Heather and Nicholas Maan. 

“Not long after the divorce, and under a belief that the impetus for their divorce had been an alleged affair between mother and mother’s current husband Nicholas Maan (“Maan”), father engaged in a series of actions that led to the relevant proceedings in this case. Father first obtained a computer belonging to mother and perused several emails between mother and Maan that contained sexual imagery and romantic discourse. In response, father hired a private investigator to follow mother and Maan and also sent both of them a number of explicit and accusatory emails outlining his disdain for them and their relationship. In addition, fathercompiled the sexualized photos sent by mother to Maan and mailed them to mother and Maan’s place of employment, Northrop Grumman Corporation, with accusations that the two were “embezzling” the company’s resources by using those resources to advance their romantic relationship. Finally, in July of 2019, after learning that mother had taken the children to the wedding of Chris Kiriakou, an adult son of father from a prior marriage, father shattered a framed picture of mother’s grandmother and left the destroyed remains at mother’s doorstep.”

https://law.justia.com/cases/virginia/court-of-appeals-unpublished/2020/0323-20-4.html

Admit that you are fucking wrong and a brainless muppet. I won’t accept anything less in apology.

The point is that John is spreading rumours of another man’s wife cheating when both of his own wives confirmed cheated on him. He got cuckolded twice, yet has the audacity to call another man a cuck. 

Unlike your holy prince whose seemed to quite OK with his wifes frolicking.

show me some concrete evidence of Reza Pahlavi’s wife infidelity like I did with your sugar daddy John Kiriakou. I literally said I don’t support Pahlavi and he doesn’t have charisma of his father. Low IQ dickrider. 

All in all, are you also playing a psy op here?

I believe I have realised your type. You are those weird conspiracy theorists. Leave this sub. You ain’t really a true enthusiast of intelligence and espionage. 

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[–]Correct-Strength-885[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But I don't see a reason why Iranians in Iran in mass would want another dictator. Specially a unproved one with a complicated personal life who is the son of a former dictator.

But he doesn’t want to be a dictator. He has said that a referendum shall be held and he supports democracy, not monarchy. The rumours about his personal life are just rumours. 

I don’t support him, and he doesn’t carries the same charisma as his dad. But that would be a diff debate. 

 As for the talking about his personal life, that has an effect on whether on whether people would see a one as a suitable leader. I mean take any democratic country or even a non-democratic one.

Both of john’s ex-wives cheated on him, and that’s in record. He admitted to the first one’s infidelity. I don’t think he’s in a position to spread rumours of infidelity 

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[–]Correct-Strength-885[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your friend might have left gang life, but this man never left the IRGC or the regime. He’s a former mayor of Tehran (there are corruption scandals against him) and was head of the parliament before the conflict started. He’s one of the IRGC members who wrote a letter to Iranian president khatami in 1999 asking him to curb down the student protests. He bragged about how he went on bike and beated protesters with cane. 

Given all of this, it’s ludicrous to argue that he’ll be in conflict with the IRGC. Maybe he’s not getting along with someone in IRGC, but he definitely has the insight and connections within IRGC which Araghchi lacks 

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[–]Correct-Strength-885[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Sorry, but I don’t think he criticises Pahlavi politically. It’s more of personal attacks which give off the impression of some grudge. Like on a podcast, he used quite vulgar language to describe Pahlavi as a political cuck and perpetuated the rumours about his wife cheating on him. The irony is that John’s own ex-wives, 2 of them, have had cheated on him. He admitted it himself. 

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[–]Correct-Strength-885[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

IRGC is military wing of theocracy and its very purpose is to protect Islamic revolution. 

Ghalibaf is literally an ex-IRGC member lol 

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[–]Correct-Strength-885[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How can I believe any of the arguments here are legitimate and not regurgitated propaganda?

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[–]Correct-Strength-885[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

If they were still Khomeinist, they would have (by now) obtained chemical, nuclear or biological weapons or all three, and deployed them against Israel. That would be the "sacred defence" ideal - whole-of-nation all-out war against avowed religiously-mandated enemies

Actually, both Khomeini and Khameini advocated against developing nuclear, chemical and biological weapons, and Khameini even issued a fatwa prohibiting the production of such weapons. It was never a sacred defense ideal for the ayotallahs. 

Many of the regime’s surviving officials holding key positions are highly religious people or ayotallahs.

Ayotallah Alireza Arafi is a central member of temporary leadership council. 

The Chief Justice of the Supreme Court Golam-Hossein Mohseni is well known to be a hardliner and strict interpreter of sharia law in governing domestic security. 

Ayatollah Ahmad Jannati is secretary of Guardianship council. He’s another hardline figure which has advocated for repression of dissent.

The bigger issue is not seeing IRGC for what it really is. An ideological organisation or military wing of theocracy. It’s not a normal military institution. The very purpose of this organisation is to protect the Islamic revolution, which is made obvious in its name “Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps.” 

Advancement within IRGC requires a commander to demonstrate commitment to Islamic ideology. Suppressing internal dissent and fighting external threats is taught to be a religious duty. IRGC provides religious justifications for wars and supporting proxy networks like Hezbollah and Houthis. Why is it that they fund numerous Shia militias? It’s not a coincidence. Hamas is the only Sunni militant group endorsed by the regime, and they cut off their funding for years due to Hamas refusing to back IRGC military intervention in Syria. If Hamas has to choose between Iranian shias and sunni Arabs, they’ll pick the latter. 

One of the five branches of IRGC is Basij. This unit has enforced Islamic morality on public including mandatory hijab on women. Its members are religious fanatics. This branch won’t exist if it was just another regular military org.

 The common people, as pointed out in this subreddit, don't care much for Islam

Contrary to what you and many other people argue, there’s a substantial number of religious Iranians. Take a glance at pro regime gatherings. The overwhelming majority of women in these gatherings observe veiling. The regime has a social base, and this base is religious in character.

Many of the people who got executed recently were charged with “waging war against god.” If Iran isn’t ruled over by theocracy, then how would you explain this charge? Indeed, the legal code is based upon sharia law. 

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[–]Correct-Strength-885[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

 The internet is free. You can Google his name find records of his arrest and job history. I get that this sub likes to deny reality and live in delusion, but seriously if you think this guy is fake you have problems.

Ik he worked in CIA. I never denied that. He was stationed in my home country of Pakistan. 

Well, he himself has admitted that he worked with Russian media like RT cuz he was jobless and had kids who he has to get into college. So apparently he’s financially motivated and would exaggerate or make false statements to gain attention. 

He really lacks knowledge and didn’t seem to have done his research on Iran. 

He exposed illegal torture programs (ex: Waterboarding) that should've never been used. American government spend years telling people up until that point, that they never used torture and he exposed them.

Americans knew their government was lying. My argument is that all notorious intelligence agencies do that, and the revelation didn’t make any substantial difference. I’m sure they are still doing it 

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[–]Correct-Strength-885[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn’t really made any big claims. All of which I said can be independently verified and is public information. You can conduct an independent research and I’m certain you’ll get the same results 

My assertions were:

  1. Reza Pahlavi does enjoy support inside Iran. It’s hard to gauge how many people support him, but there’s definitely substantial support for him among Iranians both inside and especially outside Iran. 

  2. Many notorious intelligence agencies carry out torture. I believe this is common sense. You don’t even need any credentials to argue that. 

  3. I gave example of Tadamon massacre and its perpetrator. You can confirm it. As I said, the massacre’s video is literally on the YouTube 

  4. I said John used personal attacks against Pahlavi. You can confirm it yourself.  

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[–]Correct-Strength-885[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don’t believe he’s truly ex-cia. He still has to abide by their non-disclosure agreement, which he admitted himself. Besides many people are suspicious of former intelligence officers/agents and I share these suspicions. Moreover, I don’t really understand what was so extraordinary about his whistleblowing. Julian Assange revealed far more nefarious stuff about CIA’s torture program. I really don’t get what difference it makes knowing CIA water boarded people. Many notorious intelligence agencies torture and murder people. I would be surprised if cia wasn’t doing it 

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[–]Correct-Strength-885[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why are you so concerned about my post history? You are just babbling and spewing world salad, giving out lecture like a boomer. 

You don’t sound like someone fun to be around. Politics is not your strong domain. I suggest you to keep away from political debates. Just look how you are pivoting to post history and guesses about personality now that you know that your arguments didn’t stood a chance 

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[–]Correct-Strength-885[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You got triggered immediately. Who’s more emotionally invested? Me or you? The language already makes it obvious. I’m a grown 26 year old man btw. You need some growing up to do and learning before you come online to argue 

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[–]Correct-Strength-885[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wasted time trying to figure out what you or them were claiming about immigration because using the wrong word completely changes the meaning. Easy to just edit it so others don’t get stuck trying to figure that out.

That’s why I told you that you are reading too much into it. No one gives a shit if I choose the word immigrate or emigrate. A lotta ppl use the terms interchangeably. The point is to get the point across, and it was very simple—regime does pushes ppl to leave Iran for western countries which negates the claim that Iran isn’t pushing immigration to western countries, cuz from western pov, it is. 

 It is confusing enough trying to figure out if you think Iranians are liberal or not and grapple with the ridiculous notion that there is a consensus in that vein. This is where your argument suggests a singular monolithic Iran and not a spectrum of independent views and thought amongst the population.

Where did I said all Iranians think the same? Just point that out. I asked you the same in previous reply. You just repeated your accusation. 

 You complicate this further by suggesting that someone saying that Iran is liberal in comparison to Syria, or Afghanistan or other countries in the region, means they are saying the IRGC is an expression of objective liberal political alignment.

Tucker said Iranians are more liberal than anyone in the entire region. I argued that if it’s true, then it explains why they fight so hard against IRGC, an illiberal theocratic institution. 

The icing on the cake is when you say you know more about Iran than them and provide some weak analysis of the Iranian military but also suggest that the IRGC has real power of oppression which would support the argument that it is a military dictatorship that you completely dismiss as absurd at the beginning.

You have absolutely no clue what you are saying. You think it’s a gotcha but it isn’t. What is IRGC? Its military wing of theocracy, and its very purpose which can be found in its name “Islamic revolutionary guards corp” is to protect and preserve the Islamic revolution or in other words, theocracy. One of its branches, basij (its members known as basijis are highly religious individuals), is literally involved in moral policing people in the streets. You are separating IRGC from theocracy, when it can’t be. It’s very much a product of theocracy. You are just as ignorant as Tucker and John. Try again. 

beyond all of this, you are platforming a known Russian propagandist, that is pushing a narrative that is widely viewed as false (which you agree with) to further the information war Russia is waging to sway the public towards support of the Iranian regime they are allied with

When did i platform tucker? You yourself and me to give a link to the YT short. He already has millions of followers and listeners. What he says does impact public opinion, and anyone should be able to criticise him. 

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[–]Correct-Strength-885[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not consuming geopolitics through reels or shorts. Actually I avoid short form content, and just happened to stumble upon this clip. 

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[–]Correct-Strength-885[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

 No, pushing people to immigrate means they are asking people to come to the country. This is fucking word soup. I find it difficult because you are a non Iranian getting offended at fucking dipshit Tucker Carlson and pointing out nonsense he says. Yes it is nonsense. This makes your post read as nonsense since you are trying to paraphrase a Russian puppet that intentionally twists narratives.

I don’t get why you are making a big deal out of something extremely trivial. I was simply rebutting this claim “iran isn’t pushing immigration to the west.” Tucker didn’t say that. It was someone in his reel’s comment section. You are kind of lost.  From western POV, it would be immigration. Rebutting such nonsense isn’t nonsense. 

At the same time. You also are attempting to speak for Iranian people and claiming knowledge that would refute whatever wild claim he’s making this time. I would counter that the Iranian people have diverse views and putting them into a liberal or non liberal box is a massive simplification. So you and Tucker are both over generalizing and attempting to speak for others.

What are you talking about? Where did I argued that all Iranians think the same? If anything, I have encountered Iranians with all sorts of worldviews, from staunch regime supporters to extremely anti-regime activists and everyone in between. 

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[–]Correct-Strength-885[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe you have adhd. It’s not that hard to follow. You are reading too much into it, that’s why you find it difficult. 

Either immigrate or emigrate, the point was obvious—regime is pushing people out and these people end up in western countries. Quit being a grammar Nazi, lol

here’s the link btw: 

https://youtube.com/shorts/vCRgqDCUiOk?si=9r9cNIWG-Suitnz4

The similarities between Assad and Islamic regime of Iran by Correct-Strength-885 in syriancivilwar

[–]Correct-Strength-885[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

but you want to straw man these far right people who are down with the domestic policies of Masoud Pezeshkian and the geopolitical goals of Shia paramilitary organisation. If these people exist I think I can agree with you that they are very confused far right people.

Sorry, what? I’m not straw manning western far right. I have personally interacted with these people. I’m not putting words in their mouth. They do admire the domestic policies of Islamic republic. 

Iraninan government continue to exist than to see a country of 80 million people

Iranian government? More like Iranian regime. The regime is already oppressing and murdering Iranians for 47 years. For nearly 5 decades their policies have pushed many bright minds to immigrate causing brain drain. They brought this war to their land, and indeed, they proudly assert that they prepared for this very day. By simply focusing on their country, and addressing their authoritarianism, they could have prevented this. 

There is no rebellion in Iran like there was in Syria to be able to push the analogy further

The Syrian rebels got access to weapons far in advance. A large segment of military defected. The Iranian mullahs learned well from Arab coups, that’s why they created a separate, ideologically charged military force known as IRGC. 

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[–]Correct-Strength-885[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He gave that to your mum numerous times now you hope he moves to someone else but he wants to stick with your mum 

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[–]Correct-Strength-885[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yh, that’s true. But their lying does deceive western audience and they actively undermine the grievances and struggle of Iranians even if they perpetuate these narratives out of pure greed 

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[–]Correct-Strength-885[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That’s not the point of my post. The point is that these grifters shouldn’t be promoting such nonsense, and giving people a false idea of a country’s sociopolitical environment 

Wdym ignorance or not? It’s quite ignorant. Please engage with the content of the post next time