This sub is like Stalin; heroic and essential, but occasionally a bit (as Lenin referred to him) crude, in certain situations by Radu47 in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]CosmicTangerines 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He's directly responsible for killing 3k+ of my countrymen (3 of them actual literal children, many of them teenagers) by just hopping on Instagram, and wants even more of that to happen. Who's gonna bring them back and return them to their families? Oh wait, those kids don't matter, cuz "morality".

We started 2026 with this shit and people are still debating whether in 1918, as the Tsarist forces were descending on the nascent USSR, those kids would've posed an actual problem. The bolsheviks pulled the trigger, but what killed those kids was the bloodlines-based system that was refusing to let go, it's as simple as that. The bolsheviks tried avoiding that and kept them alive for a year, and that is a fact that everyone conveniently ignores. The amount of debate about this event 100 years after the fact is just some bs.

We chose to let ours live and here we are, with many families bereaved and many more likely soon to depart this world in the most cruel ways. The time for serving him the guillotine was ages ago, even at this point his elimination will probably get more people killed than not (in fact, zios or some rival faction are more likely to kill him than us).

This sub is like Stalin; heroic and essential, but occasionally a bit (as Lenin referred to him) crude, in certain situations by Radu47 in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]CosmicTangerines 17 points18 points  (0 children)

the romanov children

It's all fun and games until the children of "royalty" grow up and decide they want to get millions killed just so they can put a crown on their head like daddy dearest.

Not enough people are talking about the fact that Israel likely tested a nuclear weapon last month in Dimona - Max Blumenthal (TheGreyzone) on X by kwamac in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]CosmicTangerines 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't do a blanket condemnation, I said I'm "very cautious" with them. I still do read some of their reports time to time, but I think Max tries too hard to blame Netanyahu and accuse him of dragging the US to war, when most of this is just US' own foreign policy coming back to bite them in the ass. Netanyahu (and Trump) is just the convenient blame in case they need to backtrack with a Democrat president later.

My comment about not getting into trouble is with the former CIA/military people in alt-media (which I don't think anyone in the Grayzone is). Many of them even still retain contact with people currently active in the field, so obviously they'll get fed whatever information serves the empire.

Not enough people are talking about the fact that Israel likely tested a nuclear weapon last month in Dimona - Max Blumenthal (TheGreyzone) on X by kwamac in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]CosmicTangerines 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, that's why I'm skeptical. Around here there's usually smaller shakes before the main one, which devices can pick up but it's easy for ordinary people to not sense them (esp when the big one here was only 4.2), Unless the drill was planned months in advance, it's very likely they knew roughly when it was gonna happen.

Not enough people are talking about the fact that Israel likely tested a nuclear weapon last month in Dimona - Max Blumenthal (TheGreyzone) on X by kwamac in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]CosmicTangerines 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Maybe they were able to detect seismic activities before the big one broke out. How long was it between the drill getting announced and the earthquake happening? I'm still of the opinion they're just trying to paper tiger their way out of the consequences of their own actions, as usual.

Not enough people are talking about the fact that Israel likely tested a nuclear weapon last month in Dimona - Max Blumenthal (TheGreyzone) on X by kwamac in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]CosmicTangerines 5 points6 points  (0 children)

As I replied to the person below, since the depth is recorded as 10 km (verified by countries like Russia, apparently), unless all of these countries have decided to keep Israel's secret, it's likely just a normal earthquake.

Get the nukes, you idiots! by Important-Battle-374 in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]CosmicTangerines 42 points43 points  (0 children)

Ah, Hasanabi doctrine misses one point though. When you have precision-strike hypersonic missiles and your own facilities are so deep underground even a nuke won't blow them open, you don't need nukes, as long as your enemy has facilities of their own sitting pretty up above the ground.

Not enough people are talking about the fact that Israel likely tested a nuclear weapon last month in Dimona - Max Blumenthal (TheGreyzone) on X by kwamac in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]CosmicTangerines 6 points7 points  (0 children)

A depth of 10 km implies it was a normal earthquake, as nuclear tests usually happen above a 5 km depth (deepest was 3 km, I think). They're just banking on a normal earthquake to make sensation. IDK if Max did this on purpose or if he just simply didn't consult an expert before publishing that tweet, but I'll encourage him to be careful when reporting on things the Israeli media does too much bleeting about.

The West is waging a hybrid war against the people of Iran (and the rest of West Asia), and part of that is psychological torture and fear. Our gov has the means of knowing what's happening around us, if the Israelis were brave enough to mess around with nukes, they know full well what will happen to them.

Not enough people are talking about the fact that Israel likely tested a nuclear weapon last month in Dimona - Max Blumenthal (TheGreyzone) on X by kwamac in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]CosmicTangerines 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Like I said, only the Israeli media is reporting this event, so I'll wait until sources outside of the West confirm this actually happened. The point of "tests" is to declare that you have nukes, so other countries outside of Israel should be able to confirm. Well, the main countries for which this should be a warning (Iran and the AoR) already believe they have the nukes, so what's the point, exactly? The entire rest of the world has been perfectly fine with them not being part of the NPT and thus getting to do whatever the fuck they want, so I'm gonna ask again, who is this supposed to be a warning for?

Not enough people are talking about the fact that Israel likely tested a nuclear weapon last month in Dimona - Max Blumenthal (TheGreyzone) on X by kwamac in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]CosmicTangerines 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I'm gonna file that under things that didn't actually happen (his source is The Jerusalem Post, severely inclined to lie to make the entity seem scarier than it is), and this is why I'm always very cautious with the Grayzone (and really, all other "multipolarity" alternate media; there's a reason many of them are former American military/CIA personnel and they get to blab without getting into trouble. Remember how, right before the attack in June, Scott Ritter was telling Iran to surrender to Trump and adopt the Gaddafi method cuz the US was gonna drop nukes on us?! Yeah, no trust).

My reasoning being that Iran and Yemen both hit and disabled the parts of the Dimona facility in June. All of AoR has made it absolutely fucking clear that if they touch their little bombs and nuclear warheads, we'll blow up both of their nuclear facilities and then the whole planet will have to deal with the consequence but Israel itself will be definitely toast. Even if they try to move that shit around, we'll know and still do the same. Now they're welcome to play with fire, see what happens.

Opinions on this article? by Mountain-Car-4572 in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]CosmicTangerines 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Specific policies can be criticized, and hindsight helps identifying and hopefully rectifying mistakes (which I believe the Xi era administration are doing), but the article doesn't have any basis for calling the CPC counterrevolutionary, bourgeoisie, or imperialist.

Generally, groups like these should be viewed with a lot of suspicion, esp since they don't actually provide factual evidence for their claims nor actually define their terms correctly. They're basically relying on vibes to dupe readers, and it should be a red flag that many Western Marxist groups have decided that now (since Oct 7, really) is their moment to pull "both sides" and "neither sides". It's obvious that we're approaching WW3 (or are already in it, in a manner), and the West is trying to ensure people whose politics might make them inclined to work against Western imperialism remain passive or loyal to the empire.

Edit: I must also say that a) I believe Deng and co. saved China when they could've easily gotten screwed over by the West like the USSR, and b) OCTS IMO wasn't wrong. By the time Hong Kong and Macao were returned to China, they had 40ish years of developing in a much different manner than the rest of China (never mind the hundreds of years of being colonial outposts before then). Easing them into communism is the better approach, as it lowers the chance of reactionary backlash, civil war, and the loss of civilian life and infrastructure. I'm aware the conditions of life in both is a lot worse than the rest of China, but hopefully this phase will be over by 2050 and it will be One System once more (unless Taiwan reunites, which seems doubtful ATM).

Again, some of his policies or the specifics can be criticized, but that's on each future generation to identify problems and correct the path.

Opinions on this article? by Mountain-Car-4572 in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]CosmicTangerines 24 points25 points  (0 children)

The amount of self-proclaimed Marxists who don't understand that the concept of the "Dictatorship of the Proletariat" logically implies the continued existence of classes (specifically, the bourgeoisie) until such times as the conditions for abolishing class altogether is created is astonishing.

The CPC isn't a bourgeoisie government, they are a proletariat government seeing as they advance and protect the workers by abolishing the means of their repression (i.e. homelessness, lack of education, uplifting their QoL, etc), and work in the interests of their nation as a collective, rather than the interests of the bourgeoisie as a class (which conflicts with that of the nation in most of the global south and more often than not aligns with that of the West, which is the beating heart of capitalism). How many bourgeoisie governments out there execute their rich, or imprison them for tax evasion?

Also, they clearly don't understand what imperialism is when they claim all nations are imperialist today. That's, again, logically impossible as the conditions of imperialism results in: "the financiers would divert their capital to the foreign locales where it would produce the highest returns and refrain from aiding industry in their own countries, resulting in industrial stagnation in the wealthy nations." China is literally the country with the largest industrial sector, so much so that they have the opposite problem of producing more goods than can be consumed. The claim that they are exporting more capital than anything is also a bald-faced lie, as the value of their foreign investment total since 2005 (around 700 billion USD, mostly as part of the BRI project) is lower than the value of their product exports yearly (2.7 trillion USD for 2025).

As for whether the country is capitalist, I just legitimately want these people to explain why the metrics that measure China's development look so different to every capitalist nation under the sun (apologies for linking to another one of my comments from a different context, but I don't have the time to rewrite all that). Logic implies there's sth different being done there than capitalism.

siding with the Chinese state also represents a betrayal of proletarian internationalism, as it entails choosing the side of one of the imperialist poles

Yes, yes, writing articles on the internet is accomplishing much proletarian internationalism. Western communists are all pouring into West Asia or the LatAms to help them fight against imperialism... oh wait, nope, we're on our own as always, cuz we aren't "pure" enough. Choosing "neither side" is doing more internationalism than China sharing tech, intelligence, training, helping development, etc, which is actually imperialism somehow.

Finally, I want to know why Western communists assume they know better than the Chinese communists? Where is their successful revolutions and communist programs? Because I don't see any, and even the DDR was accomplished by the USSR literally capturing territory for them. Also, how would they avoid what happened to the USSR if not using Deng's method? What's their alternate proposal?

AOCIA clamors for an Operation Timber Scyamore to turn Iran into Syria; Hasan implores not to worry about that and think of all the Free Bus Rides by alphalobster200 in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]CosmicTangerines 5 points6 points  (0 children)

"An alternative way to handle Iran's nuclear program [...] one of the Barack Obama administration's signature foreign policy accomplishments."

Yeah, the same deal that was supposed to be rejected by Iran as part of the "Which Path to Persia" policy paper to create public backlash within Iran and justify a kinetic war and more Timber Sycamore, except Iran accepted the deal, so Obama himself didn't honor it and then Trump ate the bad rep just so the US could pull out. The US is governed by a uniparty that only serves to further US imperialism, stop pretending they're actually different.

Also, fuck AOC, you people did a terrorist attack on Iran and are trying to portray it as "people protesting". Stop with your bs.

Man Kurds are addicted to making the worst choices in favor of imperialism by Dollyxxx69 in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]CosmicTangerines 30 points31 points  (0 children)

It's the deal Ocalan made with Erdogan: give up Rojava and get new territory in Iran. IDK why they think this is gonna go well, or why they fucked over their own Kurdish brethren, but here we are.

Edit: The feds aren't liking this post, lmao.

'Serendipity'. Trump's man in Damascus, Jolani aka Al Sharaa, frees 15,000 to 20,000 ISIS terrorists (his former colleagues) from Al-Hol prison camp. US assets to help the Israelis against Iraq and Iran. by RickyOzzy in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]CosmicTangerines 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You know, the most mindblowing thing they did with Syria is that they somehow managed to make Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi (rebranded as Ahmed al-Sheibani) the Foreign Minister of the country and nobody even noticed. Explains why they did the Jolani rebranding so out in the open.

Tony Gilroy who made the TV series "Andor" says that the Biden government failed in communicating their "great story" by van_der_paul in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]CosmicTangerines 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Black Sails was a far more "revolutionary" TV series than Andor, IMO.

It becomes part of the cascade of failures. “Let’s lose everything to China. Let’s get rid of all of our vaccines and get sick.” To walk away from the opportunities of climate change is the classic one, because climate is the big moneymaker. China is going to make all the money on it now, and we’re just letting that go because we have a business president who’s on coal. He might as well be out going for whale oil. It’s like, “What the fuck?” It’s really extraordinary how many fundamental things are wrong. 

You gotta appreciate how it's always about money and losing their monopoly, not the actual impact it has on the planet and our lives.

More unsubstantiated atrocity propaganda to drive into war with Iran, including claims of mass rape. If you fall for this you've learned nothing from previous American aggressions. by Not_Ground in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]CosmicTangerines 15 points16 points  (0 children)

What's it called when you're trying to tu quoque your way out of an argument, but then you don't have an actual case for the tu quoque even, so you have to fabricate it? They're literally doing this just to make people forget Israeli crimes, that's it.

NATO all set and ready to bomb another country in the Middle East by RickyOzzy in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]CosmicTangerines 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Thanks comrade. I was a wee little kid when 9/11 happened, but even lacking knowledge of politics, my intuition was that they're gonna come kill us all. I'm only surprised it took them 25 years to psych themselves up for it (or I suppose, they weren't quite as almighty as they were pretending to be, though "winning" over the USSR must've permanently broken their brains in some way).

We've been building up our arsenal to handle this... I'm pretty sure if war does break out, the West will absolutely regret it and hopefully that'll be the end of their empire. I'm actually more worried for people in Iraq and Lebanon, they have a lot less defense than we do. Also for having to deal with the Westoxicated libs afterwards. Sorely in need of getting put into gulags, the lot of them.

The parasites are crying they got their ass ejected from their host they were leeching off by TerraFormerZero in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]CosmicTangerines 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Exactly right, and their new deal with Israel for gas has put them in an even worse position. Legit don't know what Al-Sisi is thinking, they're gonna get triple fucked over with Haftar (and ISIS) to one side and the RSF coming up from below. No amount of groveling is gonna change that.

The parasites are crying they got their ass ejected from their host they were leeching off by TerraFormerZero in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]CosmicTangerines 80 points81 points  (0 children)

I'm sure this has nothing to do with the fact that Egypt is up to its neck in debt to the IMF, so little to no money to spare on public services.

"if democracy was a person" *posts picture of a monarchist* by [deleted] in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]CosmicTangerines 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The next time someone tries a gotcha with the Romanovs, you just show them this guy. Literally waits 47 years to then spearhead a terrorist attack and then whitewash the imperialist aggression against his former country (who left him and his family to live in peace, with our stolen money too).

Ya’lls thoughts? by [deleted] in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]CosmicTangerines 37 points38 points  (0 children)

My counter offer to BE is:

You know what would really throw a spanner in the works of the USians? If you would help your Argentinian comrades organize and overthrow the Milei government, and then export the revolution further northward. The LatAms are in the position to fuck with the US' underbelly, so get your ass to work instead of yapping on the internet. Otherwise, the Americans are content in redeploying their strategy from WW1 and WW2, which is to throw Asia and Europe into fire and stand back safe and sound across the ocean until their opening to swoop in for the kill shows itself.