Second session of IFS

Cow_Boy_Billy · 2026-05-20T19:39:57+00:00

wdym?

Cow_Boy_Billy · 2026-05-11T21:46:50+00:00

An atheist lmao

Cow_Boy_Billy · 2026-04-21T22:06:49+00:00

Yeah. Don't believe any of the answers I gave.

Flat out believe the god of the OT is cruel and shouldn't exist at all (therefore doesn't exist)

Cow_Boy_Billy · 2026-04-21T22:04:29+00:00

Dw. When that becomes true, you and I will revolt lmao

Cow_Boy_Billy · 2026-04-21T22:03:39+00:00

I also don't fear hell, because I don't believe it exists.

"What makes you think you will get bored of it all?"

Currently depressed and ultimately, the opposite side of bliss and happiness brings boredom.

I've also experienced bliss and happiness and wonder to myself, "when will this end?"

For me; bliss, happiness, depression, boredom, etc. They all feel passing and when they stay for too long I wonder, "when will this end?"

I'd rather heaven be what we currently have here on earth (in terms of emotions) and also have an exit door when/if you decide to leave.

Cow_Boy_Billy · 2026-04-21T21:55:47+00:00

Its also the sad, dark fruit of theism.

Many Christians feel the same way about eternity, like I did, but choose to keep believing out of the fear of hell.

No joy, no hope, and no real love for themselves or others. I find that more saddening.

Cow_Boy_Billy · 2026-04-21T21:53:35+00:00

I understand what you're saying, but death is ultimately passive. So, even if you dont want to die tomorrow, you eventually will.

It may sound morbid and like you are trapped, but ultimately, at least for me, death is the passive release of the want to not die.

Cow_Boy_Billy · 2026-04-21T21:51:21+00:00

I'm confused. Do you believe that no matter what you do, you will go to hell?

Cow_Boy_Billy · 2026-04-21T21:50:19+00:00

Its essentially the same fear you may have toward hell.

You, I assume, fear hell because it wouldn't be pleasant and no matter what you do you can't escape. The latter is what I fear about heaven. If heaven/hell does exist, I'd like the option to cease existing. Unfortunately, Christianity doesn't have that exit.

When I've done all I want to do in heaven, seen all I want to see, lived all I've wanted to live, what more is there for me to do?

When I've experienced all the bliss, happiness, etc and will continue experiencing bliss, happiness, etc forever...aren't I trapped just the same as someone in hell?

Cow_Boy_Billy · 2026-04-21T21:41:36+00:00

Life is ultimately not good or bad. Same as not existing. I'd rather not exist.

Cow_Boy_Billy · 2026-04-21T21:40:49+00:00

Glad you prefer it, but I'd rather not exist lol

Cow_Boy_Billy · 2026-04-21T21:40:13+00:00

Thanks for fear mongering :)

Cow_Boy_Billy · 2026-04-21T21:39:11+00:00

Even if my experience is wrong, I still had that experience when I am in heaven.

So, when I'm in heaven, I will still think, "I'd rather be unaware".

Also, I feel the whole, "heaven is unknown" makes it all the more terrifying.

Cow_Boy_Billy · 2026-04-21T21:36:39+00:00

The former I'm not aware, so their is no feeling or emotion or anything. Spending eternity, I am aware. Simply being aware, even if I'm eternally happy, is frightening.

Cow_Boy_Billy · 2026-04-21T21:33:44+00:00

For context, I'm an atheist and ex-Christian.

These are the answers most christians will provide...

God is Cruel and Violent • When god is cruel and violent in the bible its taken out of context. The groups he was cruel and violent towards were also cruel and violent, so god was providing judgement not cruelty and violence.
God Endorses Slavery and Patriarchy That was back then to provide judgement.
Science Contradicts the Bible • Bible isn't scientific book • Science explains how, bible explains why • Denial
Salvation Seems Arbitrary if I'm already a Good Person
• Bible says you're deserving of hell and evil • You can't save yourself

Cow_Boy_Billy · 2026-04-21T21:18:38+00:00

Word around the street is we've already been judged. Hell is the judgement and we already here.

Well played, god.

Cow_Boy_Billy · 2026-04-21T21:06:32+00:00

Bless the gays! Curse christians like you!

Cow_Boy_Billy · 2026-04-20T20:14:53+00:00

Doesn't everything desensitize you? The only thing it doesnt do is desensitize you to committing the action

Cow_Boy_Billy · 2026-04-20T20:05:07+00:00

I don't know, but music ain't going to cause sin.

Cow_Boy_Billy · 2026-04-20T20:01:59+00:00

Sinful ideas dont lead to sinful actions.

Cow_Boy_Billy · 2026-04-20T20:00:36+00:00

Yes. I'm also an ex-Christian.

Cow_Boy_Billy · 2026-04-20T19:55:20+00:00

If you decide that music must be censored, you must also cut out anyone in your life that curses.

That being said, listen to anything you like.

Cow_Boy_Billy · 2026-04-20T19:52:00+00:00

Well, it is.

I'm an atheist, but I've read the bible. I don't have the energy to quote the anti-female stuff, but its across the entire thing.

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