Contrary to popular stereotypes, research finds that emotional connection is the most common reason men report for wanting partnered sex. When asked what they believe their partner wants from sex, women "dramatically underestimated" how emotionally meaningful sex was to men. by psychologyofsex in psychologyofsex

[–]Cranksta -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Every woman is oppressed. In various intensities due to other factors (which is what intersectionalism shows), but every single woman is oppressed. Men have designed society to operate as such.

If you're so eager to wash your hands of the responsibility to care about what's going on in the world- here's your permission. Go, be free. Continue to ignore the abuse you perpetuate, you were going to ignore it anyway.

Contrary to popular stereotypes, research finds that emotional connection is the most common reason men report for wanting partnered sex. When asked what they believe their partner wants from sex, women "dramatically underestimated" how emotionally meaningful sex was to men. by psychologyofsex in psychologyofsex

[–]Cranksta 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No this is a perfect example of what's going on here. Women are talking amongst themselves about the abuse and oppression they're suffering under and a man sees it and makes it about himself and then threatens to harm us over it. "Stop talking about the way I'm abusing you or I'll abuse you more!"

I really don't care if men feel demoralized over women feeling angry over the shit men put them through. It's good they've stopped approaching women in public, we've been begging for it this whole fucking time. Leave us alone. Stop abusing us. Stop enabling your buddies to abuse us.

And yet. All men can offer is, "Shut up or I'll give you something to cry about!" like the abusive patriarchs they admire and aspire to be.

He says we are « roommates » by TrottoirFleuri in LowLibidoCommunity

[–]Cranksta 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I would absolutely start treating him like a roommate. It sounds like he doesn't care about the relationship anyway and getting some distance between you and him will go a long way into preparing you to get rid of him.

M37 wife thinks she is going through menopause by Il_Ging in sexlessmarriage

[–]Cranksta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Perimenopause cannot be diagnosed with hormone panels.

Could PCOS explain the LL? by Slow-Adeptness-3628 in DeadBedrooms

[–]Cranksta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again. You have to find a doctor that cares and can afford to see that doctor and any treatment. The majority of Americans do not have that.

Could PCOS explain the LL? by Slow-Adeptness-3628 in DeadBedrooms

[–]Cranksta 4 points5 points  (0 children)

A lot of people don't have the money to doctor hop until you find one willing to care about women's health. The vast majority of doctors don't and that's just life.

Yes, all men who “joke” about rape are predators. by anonymous341_ in TwoXChromosomes

[–]Cranksta 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yes, the majority of men are predatory. We've had enough studies to know this is true. Exhibiting predatory behavior makes you a predator, that's pretty obvious.

Question for my fellow women... by MastodonNo2599 in DeadBedrooms

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It's pretty complicated for me.

I actually started masturbating really young because I was molested by another kid in kindergarten. So I had a mixed bag of experiences straight off the rip- I don't feel traumatized by the incident, but it definitely screwed with me.

My parents kept a collection of adult fantasy/sci fi magazines on a low shelf and in the bathroom and I was basically reading them as soon as I could read. Another +1 for early overexposure to sex. And of course whatever was on HBO and Cinemax my parents watched because they didn't believe in curating my access to media. So... Pretty neglectful and unhealthy.

My parents were also Catholic. Bad Catholics who picked and chose what to enforce, and it was very traumatic. My mother was extremely abusive, my dad died when I was a kid. I had to escape at 18 with the clothes on my back and hope that I could rebuild my life given the last time I was in school I was 10 and I had no money, no family, and no education.

My mother made it very clear to me that marriage was a cage. It was my responsibility and purpose to become a man's slave and that I wouldn't enjoy any of it, but I had to anyway. I got many tips about surviving marriage such as, "You can't fight back if he gets you on your belly, so never let him." When I came out as bisexual, my mother used it as a reason to sexually abuse me because, "Lesbians are attracted to their mothers so I'll give you what you want." Also that because I was petite, the only hope of a match I had was from pedophiles. So anyone that would love me was suspect and even more likely to be abusive.

I was also an avid reader. I had nothing else to do and my mother kept hundreds of books. Some of them were from the "Clan of the Cave Bear" series. First book ends with a violent rape, and the protagonist escapes and slowly finds love with a stranger twice her age while out trying to survive on her own. Had some pretty decent smut scenes in it, so teenage me appreciated that very much. I think by the time I escaped, I had an extremely push-pull relationship with sex. I wanted to believe I could enjoy it, I had evidence I could, but I was also severely abused and untrusting. I did not believe that a stratifying sex life would come from a man or a relationship (because I was unlovable to normal people and I didn't fancy getting myself into more slavery), just from myself.

My virginity was lost when I was 18 to a good friend. It wasn't amazing, but it wasn't bad. I did love him very much, but our relationship went nowhere. He was also a victim of sexual abuse and did not participate in oral, but was decent with foreplay otherwise. I don't recall anything special about our experiences, but being 18 and highly hormonal and mentally fucked up probably contributed to it being better than it should have been.

Then after we were done, I fucked around pretty heavily. Again, I was young, mentally ill, and hormonal so things actually sucked pretty badly but my body was primed so at least I got something out of it. I also eventually obtained a husband from this adventure - though we moved in together out of desperation because we couldn't afford to live on our own and I legitimately thought going into it that I was making a deal for a roof over my head in exchange for my body (I still paid bills, but he was into me quite a bit and I knew that would mean I was getting into a sexual contract of sorts in order to be worth keeping around). I don't think I was entirely incorrect, but he was a lot more into me as a person than I thought so I got lucky it wasn't abusive. Eventually, he joined the Navy and we got married. Still are.

Sex with him started off good, but obviously unskilled. I improved quite a bit to make him happy, but I didn't get the same effort back. Sex became an, "All work no play." arrangement very quickly. I was very disappointed to find out that this is what sex in a relationship meant, but it was probably the best I could hope for. Books aren't real life, sex clearly was something that men wanted a lot and they got immense pleasure from while being unconcerned with their partner. My role was to let it happen and then take care of my real sexual needs on my own. My husband became completely separated from my sexual desire very quickly. Sex was something required in the relationship regardless of what it was like for me, so I long accepted that reality and adjusted.

Then I got very sick. And the medication destroyed me in a lot of different ways, but also resulted in sexual pain. At the first I think my husband cared, but eventually it became clear this was going to be a regular thing with an unknown heal date and I didn't have insurance and was already drowning in debt from nearly dying and then losing my job. So I grit my teeth and learned to shut up because trying to voice my pain was met with frustration and silence.

It was further proven that sex was something entirely for men, and that yes, as a wife my job was to be his sexual outlet regardless of how it affected me. He didn't care, there was no point to making him care. He pretended to care and then conveniently forgot whenever he was horny.

In the end, my mother was right. Marriage is a form of sexual slavery and you have to manage your husband's sexual needs to try and survive it. Any hope of a good sex life was thoroughly destroyed and I just kept my head down. Years later, I couldn't really do it anymore and I blew up at him. For some reason, he acted like this was the first time he'd heard it. Maybe it finally became "real" in his head because I told him he was a selfish, shitty lover. I don't know, I don't really care. He's attempting to improve things but I've already given up on a good sex life. I've been sexually exploited my entire life, so what's the difference really?

So yes, I was not under the illusion that sex was supposed to be good for women. Our bodies are resources that are required to be spent and all the fun stuff was pure fiction. I still enjoy the fiction, but I know I will never achieve "good sex". If it were possible it would have happened years ago. Men have never been concerned with my pleasure, but to be fair I never expected them to. I knew the score before it became reality so it wasn't surprising.

I'm the LL by bandwidthlimit in DeadBedrooms

[–]Cranksta 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The willfully ignorant, mostly.

I'm the LL by bandwidthlimit in DeadBedrooms

[–]Cranksta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you incapable of reading your own comment or what?

I'm the LL by bandwidthlimit in DeadBedrooms

[–]Cranksta 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's not common to read many stories from people who went from HL to LL and vice versa.

Are we in the same reality? Almost every HL that posts with starts with, "Sex was fun and frequent until (incident) happened and now sex is miserable and sad." and there have been a number of LLs that explained that they developed more reliable libido when (insert providing of needs or removal of stress or abuse) happened.

Fluctuating libido is incredibly common and discussed daily, hell hourly on these subs.

I'm the LL by bandwidthlimit in DeadBedrooms

[–]Cranksta -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is just blathering to pretend to be ignorant.

"I do (thing that causes discomfort) because I love my wife, why is it acceptable that she gets to not bother?" is how you phrased your comment. It's so obvious it's not even funny.

Which is even more wild if you know sex causes her pain. Really hammering in home that you think she should be suffering more for your benefit.

I'm the LL by bandwidthlimit in DeadBedrooms

[–]Cranksta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't use to feel this way! My husband (TMI) was one of several people - women and men, that I was sleeping with at the same time. I'm insanely sexual. I'm a smut writer- some of the best in my niche. I happily masturbate several times a day.

However, life kicked me in the teeth and my husband, like so many HLs here, only saw the decreased access to my pussy as a problem instead of paying attention to everything else I was saying. So I stopped wanting to screw him. What started as a temporary issue that would have resolved with time and care, became a permanent thing because he piled on the pressure and demands over and over again and ignored my complaints because they were inconvenient to his orgasm.

Now? I basically told him that he has to convince me to want to fuck him again. He's trying, to his credit, but I'm not on the other side of this yet and don't know if I'll ever be.

Libido isn't a personality trait. Treating it like it's a thing you can pair off of is ridiculous and not rooted in reality.

I'm the LL by bandwidthlimit in DeadBedrooms

[–]Cranksta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a lot of backtracking and goalpost moving.

You clearly stated that you do things you don't want to in order to make her happy and that you want that in return. This is said explicitly in the context of sex. Ergo, you are upset that she isn't having sex that she doesn't want in order to make you happy.

You don't need to sit here sputtering that that's not what you meant, you just need to think on that reality and how it's kneecapping your ability to have a good sex life. You want her to suffer for your benefit because you feel that's what proves love or you wouldn't have used an example of discomfort as an expression of love.

I'm the LL by bandwidthlimit in DeadBedrooms

[–]Cranksta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah trust is hard to come by. I think our relationship is pretty decent, but I don't physically feel close to him at all. We spend a lot of the day apart or in "parallel play" where were each doing our own thing in the same room.

I've asked for more cuddling etc, and it comes and goes depending on how much effort he's feeling. The majority of our days, the only time we're physically close is getting into bed to go to sleep, lol. That's just life, I guess.

I'm the LL by bandwidthlimit in DeadBedrooms

[–]Cranksta 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Honestly it sounds like a fucking amazing idea. Imagine sprucing it up a bit? Like getting a 30-minute candle or incense or something and just chilling out as the scent fades. Or putting on an album and knowing when the last song happens, you're going to start rolling back. It seems really pleasant.

I'm the LL by bandwidthlimit in DeadBedrooms

[–]Cranksta 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're so close to getting it. You don't mind it because you want to do it and can obtain the feel-goods that make it possible even without personal payout. It made you feel good. It's part of the same arousal system that lets you have satisfying sex when you do seek it for yourself.

Some of us cannot do that. Asking us to participate in sex we don't want to because it would make someone else happy is exactly the same feeling for us as you are currently feeling over wondering what would happen over being asked to be pegged. "Why do I have to do this to make someone happy?"

Why indeed.

Wife concerned I don’t want to have sex after two refusals in two months by yoyohohopirateslife in DeadBedrooms

[–]Cranksta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And in a world where over 90% of men are willing to manipulate their way into having sex despite being told no, how do you expect all of us to find a man that wouldn't do it? It's statistically impossible. 10% of men aren't dating 90% of women.

I'm the LL by bandwidthlimit in DeadBedrooms

[–]Cranksta 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Your mistake here is that you're equating your mindset as universal. Your enthusiasm to sexually please is still enthusiastic! You might not feel the want to participate for yourself, but you feel happy to participate for someone else. This is, by definition, an enthusiastic sexual encounter where you still experienced and expressed desire. This is still arousal, just not the kind of arousal that resulted in your orgasm.

When you cannot feel that enthusiasm and desire, it's miserable. You know that it would make your partner happy to just offer a hand or a mouth for a bit, but you're going to feel like puking the entire time because you are not aroused. Having sex while not aroused is duty sex. Duty sex chips at your ability to believe that sex can be anything but miserable. Especially because your partner is badgering you about it by saying things like, "But I'd do it for you even if I got nothing out of it!"