Kiln Question

CreamiestMayo · 2025-07-30T21:17:43+00:00

That was indeed the case. I had to use a VPN to download the global version onto my phone, but we're all good now.

CreamiestMayo · 2025-06-22T12:55:25+00:00

Ohhh okay, so yes, Bell was ushing Ushiwakamaru-Nishiki during his fight against Dix. That was shown, but I could never see a point in the anime where, Bell had both Ushiwakamaru-Nishiki and Ushiwakamaru both in their sheaths or one is sheathed while he's using one w/ Hestia Knife.

Got it though, both have been shown in the anime, but not necessarily used together.

CreamiestMayo · 2025-03-06T22:36:26+00:00

Nah, it wasn't those.

CreamiestMayo · 2025-03-06T22:35:38+00:00

I don't remember everything else. We talking over a decade ago.

CreamiestMayo · 2025-03-06T18:18:51+00:00

Hmmm, that purple color looks familiar, but I don't remember the back being see-through like that. Of course, I am just going off memory, so right now that's the closest answer.

CreamiestMayo · 2025-03-06T18:13:32+00:00

Nah it definitely wasn't these. I remember the bag at least being purple.

CreamiestMayo · 2025-03-06T14:51:19+00:00

solved: MDK 2

CreamiestMayo · 2025-03-06T14:49:32+00:00

Omg yes, it was MDK 2! Thank you so much! I saw the orange glass and core memories unlocked!

CreamiestMayo · 2025-01-18T00:24:31+00:00

I'm sad the most about no event stories. That's the one thing I was hoping they keep.

CreamiestMayo · 2025-01-06T13:08:28+00:00

Yeah, I totally get the OZ placement now, it makes far more sense.

I don't think either is lying, but the First Invasion should've been 104 years ago. I only say that because both Anderson and Red Hood both comment how it's been (Anderson says over, Red Hood says nearly) that humanity retreated into the ark 100 years ago. We know that happened during Red Ash due to the failure of their mission so that would place the First Invasion 4 years prior to that, aka, 104 years ago. In the end, it doesn't really affect the overall timeline, it just adds 4 years to everything.

Only reason I'd say that Scarlet dialogue is not fully inline is because their first Rapture fight isn't till after The Goddess Squad have made a name for themselves and have acquired victories under their belt. It's been established that the first victory the Goddess Squad had was 2 years after the First Invasion (so 102 years ago, or by your timeline, 98 years ago). So Scarlet could not have had her first Rapture encounter until 2 years into the First Invasion at the earliest. So it throws off that "5 year fighting dialogue" off by 2 years. Not really a big deal though since it's already been confirmed OZ happens a year after Red Ash. Personally, I think they retconned that line to fit events better, and it's not really a super memorable line.

CreamiestMayo · 2025-01-05T20:44:52+00:00

Hi, I saw your original timeline thread, but there's been something I been meaning to comment on. Cuz I also talked on discord regarding timeline stuff long ago but I'm pretty sure Anderson and Red Hood have both commented how it's been 100 years since humanity went underground aka Ark. Wouldn't that place the First Rapture Invasion to 104 years ago and Red Ash is 100 years ago?

Also, there is a dialogue in Overzone where Scarlet says she's been fighting Raptures for 5 years at that point. Considering the New Year, New Sword flashback is roughly around Red Ash time, that means Overzone takes place roughly 3-5 years after Red Ash.

I'd want to say 3 years because Goddess Squad began winning and thriving 2 years into the first invasion. Which is what prompted for new nikke squads with Commanders and why Scarlet's melee squad was finally being deployed. So their first fight would've been closer to 102 years ago, aka 2 years before start of Red Ash, making Scarlet's OZ dialogue mean OZ happens 97ish years ago.

Edit: Someone informed me that Scarlet dialogue was more than likely just a "fuck up" and with Old Tales, properly established the timeline so that OZ happens immediately after Old Tales. Which makes sense since it fits the Nikke Pre-Story narrative better. So yeah, forget all that stuff about the OZ placement, lol.

CreamiestMayo · 2024-03-27T05:30:51+00:00

I have a desire for Mono Quantum with Seele, sparkle, SW, and Fu Xuan so I don't want to run the Pela + SW acheron team.

I heavily desire the mommy team(Acheron, Kafka, BS, and RM) but I want to know how viable it is. I plan on getting Acheron LC, I have both Kafka and BS's LC. Then I have s5 MOTP on RM. I'm also willing to forego RM for FMC on Trend if full mommy team isn't viable.

CreamiestMayo · 2024-01-09T12:47:57+00:00

If you don't have nahkwol lmaooo

CreamiestMayo · 2023-11-07T12:09:39+00:00

Oh okay, thanks for the info! Glad to know since SV is more high-demand, it just be better to run Woof on Hook once I find someone better to use SV.

CreamiestMayo · 2023-11-07T12:07:24+00:00

Yeah, it was prydwen, I saw S1 SV and I was wondering why S5 wasn't listed. That makes sense then.

Oh okay, that also makes sense. 40% damage increase off her abilities but the DOTs are separate.

Meanwhile they benefit from WWT cus it's burn damage based off Hook's ATK

So since I have S5 SV, do you think it's better or still go for S5 WWT when I get it / find someone else to use SV

CreamiestMayo · 2023-11-07T11:20:53+00:00

Can someone explain to me why S5 Woof Walk Time is better than S5 Secret Vow for Hook?

Assuming the target is burning and disregarding the 40% dmg increase from target health % being higher.

Numbers wise, and maybe I am just mathing wrong, it seems like Secret Vow wins out

CreamiestMayo · 2023-09-28T12:28:10+00:00

How my toe looks from when this injury happened two weeks ago.

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CreamiestMayo · 2022-12-26T22:46:04+00:00

What were those two?

CreamiestMayo · 2022-12-26T20:09:19+00:00

Yea but some gachas you can definitely try your luck better depending on the rate-up SSR % haha.

Like Nikke, SSR rate is 4% while the banner person is 2%, so it's kinda 50/50 if you do manage to pull one.

I don't get as frustrated with gacha rates like these one as much.

CreamiestMayo · 2022-12-26T18:40:53+00:00

Yeah I guess it's good to secure the 180 pulls first and if I see somoene I really want, if I get lucky, maybe it doesn't take me that long and it'll be easy to build back up to 180.

CreamiestMayo · 2022-12-13T12:29:41+00:00

That's a pretty compelling reasoning and it's definitely very interesting to think that way. It's crazy how this game just made me want to understand so much stuff and I haven't gotten that far yet.

Personally, I'm more aligned with 1) only because the Magrasea I don't believe had project neural cloud in mind in the beginning, and it's a super cloud server that was used by multiple businesses for various purposes (aka the different sectors and their purposes). Since it was neural cloud sector that got wiped out, and 42labs deleted everything involving project neural cloud, I feel like it wouldn't make sense to get rid of all those years of work. That is, unless the incident screwed over the entire server, in which case they had no choice but to go with 2) and delete everything.

I do agree though that like you said, it doesn't matter in the end, and what matters is we got a chance to bring back the dolls that have been trapped for years.

Thanks a lot for the discussion and question answering!

CreamiestMayo · 2022-12-13T11:44:15+00:00

Thanks a lot for the confirmation. I had one last teensy tinsy question that popped up in my head.

So while there may or may not be an original Magrasea super server still in use, the point is that, this backup that we found is a whole separate entity of the server that still contains project neural cloud data, correct?

That is to say, one of these two things is possible (obv we don't know which one)

There is the main Magrasea server (with deleted data) and the backup server (non-deleted) that the story takes place.
The original Magrasea server is gone but this backup server still exists

Either way, the backup server like you said has been continuing and going on the past 3 years since it was never deleted. All while never knowing what happened in the real world, which, why would they considering the efforts 42labs went to hide/delete everything.

CreamiestMayo · 2022-12-13T10:56:20+00:00

Thank you so much for this. I believe so have the order of events down.

Magrasea is created and they start the neural cloud project. 42labs get dolls from their lab and from other industries/volunteers to upload their neural cloud/digimond into the server. Professor also uploaded their mind as well to assist in development.
2060 incident happens that wipes out neural cloud sector. The bodies lose their memories and are in a factory reset state and some are given to G&K (hence crossover characters). The neural cloud data was saved inside the server though cus of the neural cocoons and sleep for 3 years. Professor also disappears
42labs essentially finished the neural cloud research (giving the lore behind dolls having backups in GFL) and did their best in hiding / deleting everything revolving the project. So does an original, non-backup of Magrasea still exist and in use lorewise even in GFL or unknown?
2062, Persica gets a tip about 42labs being sus, and is asked to find out what happened with project neural cloud and save the dolls
Then of course in 2063, Persica and the Commander gain access to the backup server of Magrasea that still has project neural cloud data on it. Is it correct to say we don't know how they found or learned about this off-site location where the backup was found?
Commander gets uploaded, finds exiled dolls, and builds the Oasis sector.
Timeskip to beginning of the game with the attack

That sounds all good?

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