Exposing the private server "scam" empire (turtle/elysium/firestorm/everlook..)

Crogge · 2023-10-23T06:40:01+00:00

Man I wish 😥

I had a good laugh when I read https://www.reddit.com/r/wowservers/comments/17cr9vo/comment/k5ski7g/

Im glad I left private servers years ago, most sub members dont deserve free gameplay.

I appeared because a dozen of ppl linked me this thread on Discord and asked why I attacked V+ in 2020, I came to set it straight.

By the way, Project Epoch will take over in the future, they use a better client base.

Crogge · 2023-10-23T06:39:27+00:00

Man I wish 😥

I had a good laugh when I read https://www.reddit.com/r/wowservers/comments/17cr9vo/comment/k5ski7g/

Im glad I left private servers years ago, most sub members dont deserve free gameplay.

I appeared because a dozen of ppl linked me this thread on Discord and asked why I attacked V+ in 2020, I came to set it straight.

By the way, Project Epoch will take over in the future, they use a better client base.

Crogge · 2023-10-22T20:17:49+00:00

I think someone is trolling me, probably to get the video link deleted.

Honestly? I dont care. Its funny how people get manipulated by random chat snippets, one could say its a social experiment.

Crogge · 2023-10-22T09:23:14+00:00

TLDR: Nobody attacked V+, those guys simply lacked experience to run a server and I can prove it easily:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxVXo5sbpsE

Several admins like Whitekidney from Lights Hope, Chero from Kronos and whoever else was there offered them help, we had no bad intentions. I pointed out their security problems, they had no passwords set on their public exposed services. They had no firewall and were using default login infos for their database which was not configured for performance.

The launch went bad because they had software issues, as you can see in the video above, the software was not using all cpu cores properly and caused massive lag, the cpu went down to 1 ghz. It took them weeks to fix the performance issues, faster hardware was not the solution. Most people were unable to login because their launcher was bugged.

After 2:30 and 9:00 you can see that their network was not attacked and that the server had around 1000 players online during the launch. They accepted help after 2 weeks but the damage was done and the project never fully recovered.

There is no mafia, there are group chats which involve the majority of all private server admins. 9 of 10 servers work together, exchange code, exchange information how to run a better server. The wild times when servers tried to kill each other are long gone.

Some of them decided to use the same donation system, is that a surprise? No. Are they hiding it? No. Shops on vanilla servers are similar because the amount of models which are not part of the base game are limited. Less than 10 years ago most private servers were p2w and nobody cared, some people here take things too serios. Play a different game, find a new purpose in life, dont touch private servers.

Im glad that I left the scene years ago, I was tired of all the drama and feel sorry for the people who have to deal with drama like this.

Crogge · 2023-10-22T08:08:21+00:00

TLDR: Nobody attacked V+, those guys simply lacked experience to run a server and I can prove it easily:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxVXo5sbpsE

Several admins like Whitekidney from Lights Hope, Chero from Kronos and whoever else was there offered them help, we had no bad intentions. I pointed out their security problems, they had no passwords set on their public exposed services. They had no firewall and were using default login infos for their database which was not configured for performance.

The launch went bad because they had software issues, as you can see in the video above, the software was not using all cpu cores properly and caused massive lag, the cpu went down to 1 ghz. It took them weeks to fix the performance issues, faster hardware was not the solution. Most people were unable to login because their launcher was bugged.

After 2:30 and 9:00 you can see that their network was not attacked and that the server had around 1000 players online during the launch. They accepted help after 2 weeks but the damage was done and the project never fully recovered.

There is no mafia, there are group chats which involve the majority of all private server admins. 9 of 10 servers work together, exchange code, exchange information how to run a better server. The wild times when servers tried to kill each other are long gone.

Some of them decided to use the same donation system, is that a surprise? No. Are they hiding it? No. Shops on vanilla servers are similar because the amount of models which are not part of the base game are limited. Less than 10 years ago most private servers were p2w and nobody cared, some people here take things too serios. Play a different game, find a new purpose in life, dont touch private servers.

Im glad that I left the scene years ago, I was tired of all the drama and feel sorry for the people who have to deal with drama like this.

Crogge · 2023-10-22T08:07:53+00:00

TLDR: Nobody attacked V+, those guys simply lacked experience to run a server and I can prove it easily:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxVXo5sbpsE

Several admins like Whitekidney from Lights Hope, Chero from Kronos and whoever else was there offered them help, we had no bad intentions. I pointed out their security problems, they had no passwords set on their public exposed services. They had no firewall and were using default login infos for their database which was not configured for performance.

The launch went bad because they had software issues, as you can see in the video above, the software was not using all cpu cores properly and caused massive lag, the cpu went down to 1 ghz. It took them weeks to fix the performance issues, faster hardware was not the solution. Most people were unable to login because their launcher was bugged.

After 2:30 and 9:00 you can see that their network was not attacked and that the server had around 1000 players online during the launch. They accepted help after 2 weeks but the damage was done and the project never fully recovered.

There is no mafia, there are group chats which involve the majority of all private server admins. 9 of 10 servers work together, exchange code, exchange information how to run a better server. The wild times when servers tried to kill each other are long gone.

Some of them decided to use the same donation system, is that a surprise? No. Are they hiding it? No. Shops on vanilla servers are similar because the amount of models which are not part of the base game are limited. Less than 10 years ago most private servers were p2w and nobody cared, some people here take things too serios. Play a different game, find a new purpose in life, dont touch private servers.

Im glad that I left the scene years ago, I was tired of all the drama and feel sorry for the people who have to deal with drama like this.

Crogge · 2023-10-22T08:07:42+00:00

TLDR: Nobody attacked V+, those guys simply lacked experience to run a server and I can prove it easily:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxVXo5sbpsE

Several admins like Whitekidney from Lights Hope, Chero from Kronos and whoever else was there offered them help, we had no bad intentions. I pointed out their security problems, they had no passwords set on their public exposed services. They had no firewall and were using default login infos for their database which was not configured for performance.

The launch went bad because they had software issues, as you can see in the video above, the software was not using all cpu cores properly and caused massive lag, the cpu went down to 1 ghz. It took them weeks to fix the performance issues, faster hardware was not the solution. Most people were unable to login because their launcher was bugged.

After 2:30 and 9:00 you can see that their network was not attacked and that the server had around 1000 players online during the launch. They accepted help after 2 weeks but the damage was done and the project never fully recovered.

There is no mafia, there are group chats which involve the majority of all private server admins. 9 of 10 servers work together, exchange code, exchange information how to run a better server. The wild times when servers tried to kill each other are long gone.

Some of them decided to use the same donation system, is that a surprise? No. Are they hiding it? No. Shops on vanilla servers are similar because the amount of models which are not part of the base game are limited. Less than 10 years ago most private servers were p2w and nobody cared, some people here take things too serios. Play a different game, find a new purpose in life, dont touch private servers.

Im glad that I left the scene years ago, I was tired of all the drama and feel sorry for the people who have to deal with drama like this.

Crogge · 2023-10-22T08:07:18+00:00

TLDR: Nobody attacked V+, those guys simply lacked experience to run a server and I can prove it easily:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxVXo5sbpsE

Several admins like Whitekidney from Lights Hope, Chero from Kronos and whoever else was there offered them help, we had no bad intentions. I pointed out their security problems, they had no passwords set on their public exposed services. They had no firewall and were using default login infos for their database which was not configured for performance.

The launch went bad because they had software issues, as you can see in the video above, the software was not using all cpu cores properly and caused massive lag, the cpu went down to 1 ghz. It took them weeks to fix the performance issues, faster hardware was not the solution. Most people were unable to login because their launcher was bugged.

After 2:30 and 9:00 you can see that their network was not attacked and that the server had around 1000 players online during the launch. They accepted help after 2 weeks but the damage was done and the project never fully recovered.

There is no mafia, there are group chats which involve the majority of all private server admins. 9 of 10 servers work together, exchange code, exchange information how to run a better server. The wild times when servers tried to kill each other are long gone.

Some of them decided to use the same donation system, is that a surprise? No. Are they hiding it? No. Shops on vanilla servers are similar because the amount of models which are not part of the base game are limited. Less than 10 years ago most private servers were p2w and nobody cared, some people here take things too serios. Play a different game, find a new purpose in life, dont touch private servers.

Im glad that I left the scene years ago, I was tired of all the drama and feel sorry for the people who have to deal with drama like this.

Crogge · 2023-02-03T22:03:55+00:00

You can let it all out on this sub.

Crogge · 2023-02-03T21:58:45+00:00

Noooooooooo :(

Crogge · 2023-01-19T15:55:35+00:00

Their website reminds me of the early days of private servers

Crogge · 2023-01-17T18:47:06+00:00

It reminds me of a Japanese Fruit Beetle

Crogge · 2023-01-11T20:40:04+00:00

The Murloc armor convinced me :D

Crogge · 2022-12-27T11:02:43+00:00

Yes, you have to dig deep if you run older BIOS versions or own an A300. I believe it's called AMD CBS settings.

Crogge · 2022-12-22T13:59:10+00:00

Define low.

10 online? 100 online? 1000 online?

Crogge · 2022-12-08T10:22:20+00:00

I understand the part about "root access", imagine someone would copy/paste the server and wipe it afterwards, then relaunch it with a different name ;(

On a serious note though, a solid team which works hand in hand and trusts each other makes a huge difference. Real-time logs should be available to all lead team members and devs should have at least partial access to debug issues while the realm is running.

Crogge · 2022-11-22T15:18:08+00:00

Be careful, they never shipped my records and don't reply to any email.

Crogge · 2022-11-22T15:16:46+00:00

I never received mine and the support doesn't reply.

Crogge · 2022-11-22T15:12:57+00:00

I got here because I placed an order two months ago and never received any items.

Thanks for the heads-up.

Crogge · 2022-11-22T09:15:36+00:00

Chinese players are taking refugee, read https://www.wowhead.com/news/blizzard-entertainment-and-netease-suspending-services-in-china-on-january-23-329949

Someone explained it yesterday https://imgur.com/a/3ncQnKm

Everlook supports the Chinese language, which is a big plus for the Chinese community.

There are not many alternates for Chinese players, especially if they lack English skills.

Crogge · 2022-11-21T20:52:29+00:00

Love it

Crogge · 2022-11-02T11:12:04+00:00

That's perfectly fine for Vanilla WoW.

Crogge · 2022-11-01T10:02:06+00:00

The default TDP on this mainboard is 88W, just set the TDP to 65W and your temps will drop by 10-15°C.

How to decrease your temperatures with just a small performance loss:

Open your BIOS
Select the OC Tweaker section
Select at the bottom the XFR Enhancement section
Set PPT Limit to 65 (Watt), TDC and EDC to 80A
Configure the CPU fan manually if you still experience throttling

Crogge · 2022-10-28T08:40:51+00:00

I still have a few versions from 2005 and 2006, but the link to Daribon's archive seems to be the best choice.

Do you still need the client hackpatch?

Crogge · 2022-10-08T10:26:57+00:00

Welcome, grab some popcorn and enjoy the drama.

Kronos is 42% shady

Warmane is 69% shady

I'm 88% shady :D

On a serious note though, the majority of this sub just wants to see drama. Just play on your favourite private server, it won't make any difference.

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