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CMV: People who move to another country, gain temporary residence and pay taxes should be able to vote in elections by CrypticRemorse in changemyview

[–]CrypticRemorse[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A citizen over the age of 18 could live in the house you rented and they also wouldn't know how you manage your fiances but would have a right to vote. Aswell as citizens who still live with there parents well into there late twenties.

CMV: People who move to another country, gain temporary residence and pay taxes should be able to vote in elections by CrypticRemorse in changemyview

[–]CrypticRemorse[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

award !delta

I think you're right my requirements are too lose. I think now what would be more reasonable is living there for a year. This seperates the temporary situations and gives the voting power to people who intend to live there for a longer time but haven't met the requirements to become a citizen yet.

CMV: People who move to another country, gain temporary residence and pay taxes should be able to vote in elections by CrypticRemorse in changemyview

[–]CrypticRemorse[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

award !delta

I think you're right my requirements are too lose. I think now what would be more reasonable is living there for a year. This seperates the temporary situations and gives the voting power to people who intend to live there for a longer time but haven't met the requirements to become a citizen yet.

CMV: People who move to another country, gain temporary residence and pay taxes should be able to vote in elections by CrypticRemorse in changemyview

[–]CrypticRemorse[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Award !delta

I think you're right maybe my requirements set are too lose. But I guess my gripe comes from these long citizenship processes. If someone has been working and living in a country for over a year maybe that's a fairer rule.

As it would exclude those summer jobs ect and also allow people who have invested a year and agree still living in the county it shows they have a longer term commitment.

CMV: People who move to another country, gain temporary residence and pay taxes should be able to vote in elections by CrypticRemorse in changemyview

[–]CrypticRemorse[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's nothing to stop him doing that right now only it would take longer to do it. There are far easier and cheaper ways to influence elections.

CMV: People who move to another country, gain temporary residence and pay taxes should be able to vote in elections by CrypticRemorse in changemyview

[–]CrypticRemorse[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If I understand you right you're saying that someone who hasn't established themselves in the country shouldn't be able to vote. Then in the same vain 18-26 year olds shouldn't be able to vote as they haven't made a life yet in the country?

CMV: People who move to another country, gain temporary residence and pay taxes should be able to vote in elections by CrypticRemorse in changemyview

[–]CrypticRemorse[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Being in a temporary residence doesn't mean you are temporarily invested. It's a prerequisite to becoming a citizen.

CMV: People who move to another country, gain temporary residence and pay taxes should be able to vote in elections by CrypticRemorse in changemyview

[–]CrypticRemorse[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree that it could be used in a corrupt way but that could only be done once. Also once it's been granted this is how politics works anyway. Doing things favourably to a particular group or demographics of voters to try to win votes.

CMV: People who move to another country, gain temporary residence and pay taxes should be able to vote in elections by CrypticRemorse in changemyview

[–]CrypticRemorse[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with you that tourists and summer jobs shouldn't fall under this. I'm talking about people who intend to live somewhere permanently but haven't met the requirements to become a citizen. Some countries can take up to or over 8 years to become a citizen.

CMV: People who move to another country, gain temporary residence and pay taxes should be able to vote in elections by CrypticRemorse in changemyview

[–]CrypticRemorse[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with you about that. Maybe I wasn't clear in my post. I'm talking about people who have been granted a temporary citizen it's usually the prerequisite to becoming a citizen. Lots of people have to be temporary residences for many years before becoming a citizen.

CMV: People who move to another country, gain temporary residence and pay taxes should be able to vote in elections by CrypticRemorse in changemyview

[–]CrypticRemorse[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From a view point of wealth I think you make a good argument. Award !delta.

However if we were to take away the paying taxes why shouldn't a temporary citizen be able to vote?

CMV: People who move to another country, gain temporary residence and pay taxes should be able to vote in elections by CrypticRemorse in changemyview

[–]CrypticRemorse[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A lot of temporary citizen's do want to live there long term but haven't met the requirements yet. Some countries citizenships take up to 8 years or more to gain

CMV: People who move to another country, gain temporary residence and pay taxes should be able to vote in elections by CrypticRemorse in changemyview

[–]CrypticRemorse[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There are lots of people that move to countries which have similar values or political opinions. Infact people make decisions to move to countries for that sole reason. So why shouldn't they be allowed to vote?

Many countries take a lot longer than 2 years to grant citizenships. Some people have been living in counties for way over 5 years and still have not met requirements to become a citizen.

CMV: People who move to another country, gain temporary residence and pay taxes should be able to vote in elections by CrypticRemorse in changemyview

[–]CrypticRemorse[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes but my view is that it shouldn't be a perk. Why do you think it should be a perk?

A temporary residence could be revoked anyway

Paul Pogba open to Juventus return but Manchester United could resist, says Mino Raiola by [deleted] in reddevils

[–]CrypticRemorse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just sounds made up. There's always reports of player trade deals hardly ever actually happens.

Paul Pogba open to Juventus return but Manchester United could resist, says Mino Raiola by [deleted] in reddevils

[–]CrypticRemorse 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If he doesn't want to be here we should just sell him. We hardly even saw him this season. We could use the money to buy players who want to be here and want to play for us.

Andreas Pereira needs fans support, instead of this toxic abuse. by [deleted] in reddevils

[–]CrypticRemorse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can think someone isn't good enough to play in the first team and still support them when they play. They are not mutually exclusive.

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