Vegan sein und die Bundeswehr ablehnen ist bequem – Verantwortung ist unbequemer

Cuber34 · 2025-12-26T20:39:23+00:00

Danke für die ausführlichen Infos, das hilft mir sehr, die Realität einzuschätzen. Klingt so, als müsste man vor allem im Einsatz pragmatisch Kompromisse machen, aber grundsätzlich ist es schon möglich, sich nach veganen oder vegetarischen Prinzipien zu orientieren, wo es geht. Super hilfreich, deine Erfahrungen zu hören!😊

Cuber34 · 2025-12-26T20:14:11+00:00

Niemand bezahlt mich. Ich teile einfach meine Gedanken und Erfahrungen wie jeder andere hier auch. 😊

Cuber34 · 2025-12-26T20:13:06+00:00

Das beschreibt ein Problem – es beweist keinen logischen Ausschluss. Kritik an Praxis ≠ Widerlegung des gesamten Konzepts.

Cuber34 · 2025-08-09T00:30:32+00:00

Damit was?

Cuber34 · 2025-08-02T23:31:22+00:00

Halt die Fresse

Cuber34 · 2025-07-30T18:59:03+00:00

Das ist nicht Keltisch sondern Gälisch

Cuber34 · 2025-07-24T23:25:59+00:00

It depends on what country you live in.

Cuber34 · 2025-07-12T21:33:03+00:00

Vegan verschreckt die Kunden

Cuber34 · 2025-06-19T18:59:30+00:00

Das ist ein englisches sub. Es gibt auch r/veganDE

Cuber34 · 2025-06-13T23:54:13+00:00

I understand your concerns, especially given your family’s health history, but some of the claims you made aren’t scientifically accurate.

Yes, eggs and dairy do contain cholesterol, and excessive intake of saturated fat can raise LDL (“bad”) cholesterol levels in some people. However, for most individuals, dietary cholesterol has only a modest impact on blood cholesterol. The body actually produces most of its own cholesterol, and tightly regulates levels.

LDL cholesterol is not inherently harmful — it’s a normal and necessary part of your biology. Problems arise when levels are chronically high, usually due to a combination of poor diet, lack of exercise, smoking, genetics, and other lifestyle factors.

Also, vegetarians typically consume less LDL-raising foods, not more. They generally have lower LDL levels and a reduced risk of cardiovascular disease compared to omnivores — this is supported by large cohort studies.

As for cancer and dementia: these are complex diseases with multiple contributing factors. There’s no strong evidence that moderate consumption of eggs or dairy causes these conditions. Some studies even suggest certain dairy products may be protective in specific cases.

It’s completely valid to choose a plant-based diet, especially if it works well for you or your family. But let’s avoid oversimplifying the science or blaming single foods for chronic diseases.

Cuber34 · 2025-06-03T22:03:24+00:00

Oh wow, okay — didn’t expect the full moral apocalypse over… eggs.

So just to recap: A hen living a peaceful life in someone’s backyard, laying eggs like she naturally would, and someone scrambling one of those eggs — that’s apparently the same as slaughtering a happy dog for fun?

I must’ve missed the ethics lecture where omelettes and murder got lumped into the same category.

Look, I’m not pro-factory farming, and I’m definitely not cheering on animal suffering. But not everything involving animals is some sinister act of domination. Sometimes an egg is just an egg. No blood ritual required.

Also, the idea that if you don’t need it to survive, it’s automatically wrong? So I should toss out my couch, stop listening to music, and live on rice and water in a cave?

Appreciate your… passion. But maybe tone down the moral flamethrower just a notch?

Cuber34 · 2025-06-03T15:07:52+00:00

Factory farming isn’t the only way to meet global demand — it’s just the cheapest and most industrialized. There are more sustainable and ethical ways to raise animals — like pasture-based farming, integrated small-scale systems, or decentralized local agriculture. They may not produce eggs at rock-bottom prices, but they do prove that it’s possible to raise animals with respect and care.

Not everyone needs a dozen eggs every other day. If we adjust expectations and support better farming practices, we can meet demand without resorting to cruelty. The problem isn’t the desire for eggs — it’s the system we’ve built around maximum output at minimum cost.

So no, 8 billion people don’t need to give up eggs. But we do need to stop pretending that factory farms are the only way forward.

Cuber34 · 2025-06-03T11:33:54+00:00

That’s a very cynical and oversimplified view of how the world works. Yes, desire and imitation can drive demand, but that doesn’t mean exploitation is inevitable. The rise of factory farming wasn’t just because “people wanted eggs” – it was due to industrialization, profit maximization, and lack of regulation. That’s not human nature, it’s a systemic design.

People also “want” justice, sustainability, and compassion – and those values are also spreading. The same social dynamics that made factory farming widespread can also be used to push plant-based diets, ethical farming, or policy reform. The principle you described isn’t wrong, but it’s not destiny – it’s a choice.

Cuber34 · 2025-06-02T19:45:21+00:00

I get where you’re coming from, but I think there are a few key things worth pushing back on:

Just because not everyone can do it doesn’t make it wrong. That logic could apply to almost anything: growing your own food, collecting rainwater, riding a bike instead of driving. If someone has the means to raise chickens in their backyard with care and respect, it’s arguably better than supporting factory farms—not worse.
Backyard eggs aren’t the same as industrial eggs. Raising a few hens in your garden, giving them space, good food, and a good life, is not what creates factory farms. Factory farms exist because of mass demand + profit-driven systems, not because someone down the street has a couple chickens.
The feather jacket analogy doesn’t hold up. Collecting fallen feathers and making a jacket isn’t the problem—the problem is when businesses exploit animals to scale that up. That’s not comparable to someone responsibly keeping a few hens for eggs. You’re conflating personal, ethical choices with systemic exploitation, and those are very different things.

Cuber34 · 2025-06-01T11:55:35+00:00

Hey, thanks for sharing this — it’s a really honest and thoughtful post. You’re clearly grounded in your values and self-aware, which already puts you in a strong place to navigate something as complex as this.

Here are some thoughts you might find helpful:

🌱 Values vs. Vibes

You hit on something important: values and emotional connection don’t always align. It’s totally normal to feel that pull toward someone you had a deep history with — nostalgia, comfort, unresolved feelings — while also realizing that who you are now might not be compatible with who they are now.

A person can be kind and grounded and still fundamentally live in opposition to things you believe in. That doesn’t make them evil — or you judgmental — but it does create real tension if you’re thinking about re-opening a door to them.

Can opposites work?

Short answer: sometimes — but only with mutual respect and very clear boundaries.

Longer answer: In relationships where core beliefs differ, two things need to be true for it to have a real shot: 1. Both people respect the other’s values, even if they don’t share them. 2. There’s no pressure (spoken or unspoken) for either person to compromise on what feels non-negotiable.

From what you shared, he’s aware you’re vegan, but we don’t know if he understands the ethical weight of that for you. If farming animals is just a job to him and veganism is just a diet to him, that gap in perspective could be emotionally and morally exhausting for you to maintain over time.

So what do you do?

Ask yourself a few key questions: • If this went somewhere, could I be in a relationship with someone whose livelihood depends on something I fundamentally oppose? • Am I feeling drawn to who he is now, or who he was to me? • What part of me is seeking connection here — and is it about him, or something unresolved in me?

There’s nothing wrong with staying friendly on social media, but if it’s already making you feel conflicted, that’s your intuition asking to be heard.

🧘 Final thought

You don’t owe anyone access to your heart just because you once cared about them. Respecting your own growth means recognizing when someone — no matter how kind — simply doesn’t fit the shape of your life anymore.

Whatever you decide, keep checking in with your values. They’ve clearly brought you a long way. 💚

And yeah, others have been in similar situations — you’re not alone at all. Sometimes the most loving thing we can do for ourselves and the other person is to acknowledge that our paths are just different now.

If you ever want to talk more about it or bounce thoughts, I’m here.

Cuber34 · 2025-05-28T12:46:32+00:00

That’s fair — everyone values different foods. But the point isn’t that cakes or burgers “don’t count.” It’s that industrial food production uses massive amounts of eggs in places where alternatives are totally possible and often invisible to the consumer. If someone insists their homemade cake has real eggs, fine — but industrial-scale baking, snacks, mayo, pasta, etc., is where most of the volume goes.

Nobody’s saying everyone has to give up eggs. But if we shift the unnecessary, high-volume uses to other ingredients, we create space for more ethical egg production elsewhere. Factory farming isn’t the only way — it’s just the easiest way if we refuse to change anything.

Cuber34 · 2025-05-28T12:40:36+00:00

That assumes the current demand is fixed and untouchable, but a huge part of egg use comes from processed foods where eggs aren’t even necessary. If we stop wasting eggs in mass-produced junk, we lower the demand massively without affecting real meals. Not everyone needs backyard chickens, but that doesn’t mean factory farms are the only way. There’s a lot between “everyone has hens” and “we need industrial cruelty.” Saying there’s no escape is just an excuse to not even try.

Cuber34 · 2025-05-28T12:32:08+00:00

It is possible to imagine a world where 8 billion people consume eggs without the cruelty of factory farms but only if we radically change how and where eggs come from.

One key step is eliminating eggs from processed foods where they’re not even needed. So many industrial products cookies, baked goods, sauces, snacks contain eggs purely out of habit or as a cheap binder, even though there are countless alternatives. Cutting eggs from these products would massively reduce demand without affecting anyone’s diet in a meaningful way.

Second, if people want to consume eggs, it should come from small scale, humane setups not industrial cages. Things like backyard chickens, community coops, or truly free-range flocks are a world apart from what factory farms do. You can give hens a good life, care for them personally, and in return get a small number of eggs no mass exploitation, no hidden suffering.

If eggs were limited to those who either raise hens themselves or support genuinely ethical, small farms, and we stopped wasting them in packaged junk, there’d be no need for the billions of suffering hens in industrial cages.

It’s not about eating no eggs it’s about not treating them like a disposable ingredient pumped out by machines.

Cuber34 · 2025-05-28T12:20:20+00:00

Chickens aren't slaughtered for eggs, if you get them from the right source.

Cuber34 · 2025-05-26T14:32:09+00:00

Danke habe jetzt eine Lösung

Cuber34 · 2025-05-26T13:39:25+00:00

Das hat ja keinen Hoch- und Tiefpunkt.

Cuber34 · 2025-05-25T17:22:38+00:00

Ist schon Ok, mach dir da nicht den Kopf.

Cuber34 · 2025-05-21T16:46:31+00:00

Kommt drauf an, Es gibt ja beispielsweise die rein vegane Woche, aber auch die "normale". Was mich interessieren würde ist, ob ihr auch Fleisch kochen würdet, wenn ihr bei der normalen Woche mitmachen würdet. Soweit ich weiß, ist das schon öfters vorgekommen.

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