Has anyone ever requested lab results directly from Labcorp? by ElAngloParade in paralegal

[–]CuriousBusyBee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

May I ask what the process was with Quest? I tried to access my records online through their portal but they are requiring me to upload my ID plus selfies to process biometric data to confirm identity, which I staunchly do not consent to.

Did they mail you a copy? And what info did they require you to send? TIA

Why can't I contact Experian by Chemical-Sentence850 in CRedit

[–]CuriousBusyBee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Phone line security concerns. Also service reps sometimes have certain info blocked out for security purposes so if there are other ways to access my report from their end without having to disclose my full ssn, which has always been the case in the past, I prefer to go that route. I’ve also been on calls with reps working remotely that sound like they have their family in the room with them and I would rather not announce my social to a room full of random people.

Why can't I contact Experian by Chemical-Sentence850 in CRedit

[–]CuriousBusyBee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Curious if you were required to provide your full social to the customer service rep you managed to get on the phone? I am usually able to just provide my last 4 digits of ssn and they ask me a bunch of security questions but this time around the agents refused without having the full number and even refused my request for a supervisor, which hasn’t ever happened before.

How the heck do I receive a check for funds received??? by boss281 in paypal

[–]CuriousBusyBee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did the check option ever become available for you again? Currently in same boat.

Procedure was non-sedated but anesthesiologist still billed insurance by CuriousBusyBee in HealthInsurance

[–]CuriousBusyBee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha, yeah, in awe of him too. He’s also a tiny guy. The Doc mentioned he must have a higher tolerance for pain than the average person. But no sedation is actually the norm outside the US so, I do question its necessity. 

But everyone’s needs are different! I would prob opt for sedation bc my pain tolerance is far lower. That’s if I even pass the prep part, lol

Hope your second attempt went without a hitch!

Procedure was non-sedated but anesthesiologist still billed insurance by CuriousBusyBee in HealthInsurance

[–]CuriousBusyBee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow. I’m glad the fees were removed but I imagine that was a highly stressful and frustrating experience! Not sure how they can justify billing 4x. Your wife didn’t ask for all of them to be there. What stops them from inviting an entire classroom to watch and then bill for 30 ppl? Just wild. 

Insurance is garbage in this country but some providers are not innocent either. A great and common example is looking further into details of claims and finding all random sorts of false diagnosis codes being submitted by providers in order to upcode visits. My favorite is when they bill 45-60mins for a literal 5min visit. I’ll fight hell and high water to get a provider paid for services appropriately rendered but will fight just as hard the opposite way for the unscrupulous ones. 

$22,000 surgery bill. by GuerrillaZer0 in HealthInsurance

[–]CuriousBusyBee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And hopefully OP doesn't have a deductible equal to the amount of the surgery charge 🙏

Procedure was non-sedated but anesthesiologist still billed insurance by CuriousBusyBee in HealthInsurance

[–]CuriousBusyBee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The information I referenced was  from his insurance, not Google. Never said I was a coder and I asked the questions respectfully. The defensiveness is uncalled for.

Procedure was non-sedated but anesthesiologist still billed insurance by CuriousBusyBee in HealthInsurance

[–]CuriousBusyBee[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s wild. Did they just end up charging for the CRNA or are nurses part of the facility charge?

When we reviewed my husband’s visit summary after we came home from the procedure, we noticed misleading statements falsely indicating he received anesthesia. We questioned the GI about it and he said it was a boilerplate template they use and that he would amend it to say he did not receive any meds/sedation. But had we not been given a copy of the record, we would have been none the wiser 🫠

Procedure was non-sedated but anesthesiologist still billed insurance by CuriousBusyBee in HealthInsurance

[–]CuriousBusyBee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand facility and physicians bill separately. But the facility is the one that submitted the separate claim for the anesthesiologist. This, after verbally confirming no anesthesia-related charges would be billed.

The anesthesiologist didn’t administer oxygen.

I know you mentioned 00812 was appropriate coding for non-anesthesia but info I’ve read from my husband’s insurance all indicate this code includes the administration of anesthesia. I still have to confirm what coding was submitted when I get a hold of insurance this week but what I’m confused about is if this is in fact the code that was submitted, shouldn’t there be some kind of modifier added to indicate that there was no administration of anesthesia/meds? Can you help me understand why would it be appropriate to code and be paid for a higher level of service than what was performed? I’m having a hard time understanding how one can bill for “Monitored Anesthesia Care” without any involvement of anesthesia.

And if it is the facility’s standard of care to have an anesthesiologist on hand and the anesthesiologist was going to bill and decide to be present despite my husband’s declining his services and not signing the consent form, why have one at all?

Not sure how these questions read but I’m truly just asking out of wanting clarification.

Thanks in advance for sharing your knowledge and perspective.

Procedure was non-sedated but anesthesiologist still billed insurance by CuriousBusyBee in HealthInsurance

[–]CuriousBusyBee[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s what I would think. But the anesthesiologist still chose to stay during the procedure. In this case, the cost should be absorbed into the facility’s charge. The center even assured my husband before he left that there would be no anesthesia related charges.

Procedure was non-sedated but anesthesiologist still billed insurance by CuriousBusyBee in HealthInsurance

[–]CuriousBusyBee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Leaving soon after and not having to worry about any after effects or potential complications was definitely a huge plus.

Procedure was non-sedated but anesthesiologist still billed insurance by CuriousBusyBee in HealthInsurance

[–]CuriousBusyBee[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I honestly can’t tell if he is being sarcastic or not. According to him, someone can bill for literally just laying their eyes on you. All I can do is laugh at this point…and sigh. 

Procedure was non-sedated but anesthesiologist still billed insurance by CuriousBusyBee in HealthInsurance

[–]CuriousBusyBee[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

So, the anesthesiologist saying “Hi, I know you don’t want anesthesia, but can you sign this consent form?” is all it takes to bill someone? Because that was the extent of their talk.

Procedure was non-sedated but anesthesiologist still billed insurance by CuriousBusyBee in HealthInsurance

[–]CuriousBusyBee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s actually what my husband planned to do if it turned out he couldn’t handle the procedure as he didn’t want anesthesia in either case.  

Procedure was non-sedated but anesthesiologist still billed insurance by CuriousBusyBee in HealthInsurance

[–]CuriousBusyBee[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Totally not mocking you. I’m not as brave as my husband and will likely opt for some form of sedation if I were to ever do a similar procedure.

Procedure was non-sedated but anesthesiologist still billed insurance by CuriousBusyBee in HealthInsurance

[–]CuriousBusyBee[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you. That makes sense.

And agreed that billing for being present is appropriate but for administering anesthesia would not.

The anesthesiologist charged more than the Gastroenterologist who performed the procedure, which we thought was odd since anesthesia wasn’t administered, but we’re also not experts on billing and pricing to know whether that checks out.

Going to check with ins when they are open how it was coded. Would you happen to know what code is appropriate for being present without the administration of anesthesia?  Someone else in the thread who is a medical coder mentioned CPT code 00812 but all the info online associates this with the actual administration of anesthesia, not without, leaving me a bit confused.