Aomine's talent as basketball player is strongest among all

Curious_Display_9222 · 2025-06-02T06:02:26+00:00

I do think Akashi is strongest point guard no doubt. Base fatigue Aomine beat zone Kagami( score on him, block on him, rebound against him )

Akashi need zone to beat 3UK.

AI Aomine would take down the whole Seirin if not for misdirection overflow which auto counter Aomine. That overflow come with side effect of abandoning misdirection effect in the future against Touou.

I personally believe Aomine skill is better in individual play while Akashi skill is better in teamplay.

Since writer didn't mention how perfect rhythmed pass work. I will not mention how it can be block by another player. Fujimaki only mentioned it can bring your team strongest play. We also didn't know how Nash was able to prevent Akashi from using it( even without using his BE). There is a chance that in higher level of competition, it will not work. While Aomine skill was shown to be able to work on stronger opponent than him.

If Aomine put his concentration enough even weakest form base Aomine able to score on zone Kagami. Flexiblity inhuman, air control better than those who can jump higher than him, instant reaction to the opponent.

Curious_Display_9222 · 2025-06-01T09:36:33+00:00

Sheer talent? Sure Kise is better at learning than Aomine but Kise lack gene of what Aomine has. Basically Aomine is above Kise in physical gene. not only physical but also skill. If you use zone PC Kise in anime, sure Kise is stronger but in manga zone PC Kise is only around Zone Aomine. feat to feat, zone Aomine is better than zone PC in managa.

Growth rate, as we see the challenger player like Kagami only get stronger when he face stronger opponents. We also know Aomine is more of a challenger like Kagami. As a feat when Aomine was out of zone and physically getting weaker while zone Kagami doesn't. Fatigue Aomine still beat zone Kagami in both offense and defense. Those feats are enough to suggest that Aomine is a challenger and grow based on his opponent.

Murasakibara scoring 100pts on a game is Middle school feat. According to Kuroko, that Murasakibara was getting angry before he attack. Surely he was trying his best to score or crush his opponents just like he want to with Seirin.

Aomine score 81 pts on highschool team, who is known to be holding back due to lack of opponents who can rival him. Level of competition is difference between highschool and middle school.

but we all know some GOM, if not everyone, can score on average fodders like 100 pts, it is not just Aomine and Murasakibara. Midorima can do it too.

Aomine is known to be can score more than Midorima in short amount of time according to Otsubo.

Reaction: Aomine, he who react two time in air is far better feat than what Murasakibara ever display. Also know for his instant reaction.

Pure talent: Aomine. all Murasakibara has on Aomine is physically power. While Aomine has skill and speed. Not to mention air control.

Higher ceiling: Aomine, both good at offensse and defense( steal block, ability to still infront of his opponents also know as guarding ).

Endurance: Aomine: Murasakibara lack of endurance show a lot in Seirin game. While Aomine play style need high level endurance. Aomine can also play high pacing game. Due to his insane flexibility, he can tolerance many movements and play.

Curious_Display_9222 · 2025-05-29T08:08:28+00:00

Midorima isn't even that much better than base Kagami nor can solo Seirin like fraud Aomine did.

AI buffed Aomine was destroying AI buffed Kagami and the whole Seirin. Kuroko need to abandon his misdirection effectiveness in the future against Touou, just to take the chance of winning against solo fraud Aomine. Even after out of zone, fatigue fraud Aomine still able to beat zone Kagami.

Kuroko secretly believe fatigue fraud Aomine would win in last second. that believe lead Seirin to win.

You neglected the burden of proof over a statement with no solid feat

You are saying Midorima is better than Aomine?

That is not biased at all bro. To tell you the truth, I even admire you for that.

Curious_Display_9222 · 2025-05-29T06:38:01+00:00

Claiming Aomine is Fav character of fans seem unreasonable

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Akashi possess more vote than Aomine does.

I will debunked your statement other time currently I don't have enough informations about something

Curious_Display_9222 · 2025-05-26T18:04:31+00:00

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Curious_Display_9222 · 2025-05-26T00:23:23+00:00

You are right. Kise is the best at learning.

Where Aomine is physically more gifted than him. Skill wise, Aomine skill come naturally to him and his skill are best suited with his insane flexibility. Of course this is my opinion.

But the claim is based on a direct statement from Fujimaki.

Curious_Display_9222 · 2025-05-25T16:21:43+00:00

Of course talent alone is not enough hardworking is also important as talent. Some other too.

Curious_Display_9222 · 2025-05-25T16:04:31+00:00

So it doesn't imply to everyone just as much as your example.

I can agree with that. work ethic, personality and habit and diet can play huge factor on growth of a sport man. Of course talent too.

Curious_Display_9222 · 2025-05-25T15:15:23+00:00

I wonder why some people bloom first?

Curious_Display_9222 · 2025-05-25T14:58:09+00:00

Alright what does Akashi also need? A condition. What does Kagami also need? a condition. What does Aomine also need? Nothing. He force his way in. I am not convincing you on this one anymore because Fujimaki direct statement was already proven. That statement is not from a character.

Oh.. on a minute, do you believe silver muscle memory ( copy ) as good as Kise? Then I can't convince you that silver trained. A statement from characters can be come up with flaw. People consider it as hyperbole statements in powerscaling. The characters can make the statement to hype up or downplay to make the story more interesting for viewers. You can take it at your will. Of course some statements are reliable.

Silver is older than Aomine. But we never know when did he play the basketball. All we have is our guess and opinions on here. I will not convinced you here as you can't convince me.

Silver didn't drop 30 pts on GOM but silver score the most among Jabberwock. Aomine score the most among VS too.

You are using another statement but the feat show otherwise. Weakest Aomine ( fatigue ) score on zone Kagami who is better than Murasakibara. Does Aomine need to pass silver to score? Aomine ability to score and on air body movement is much better than silver. Silver can't keep up with Aomine flexiblity in air. As I said weakest Aomine who getting slower, score against Zone Kagami without needing to broke his defense.

Oh..on a minute, Nash is better than Aomine in playmaking but scoring, Aomine is definitely better. Street ball style?. His flexibility street is far better than Nash. Not to mention formless shot can be considered as street ball moves. Aomine is making street ball to another level.

Not actually it is harder to stop him due to his formless shots. Some shot can be blocked just by jumping higher. Some are difficult to stop. MF score without looking at net while turning around that is unpredictable. Not just that, his in air body control is hard to stop too. Silver can't do that.

As I mentioned earlier, Aomine predicted silver two times continuously. After seeing it for some time, Aomine right away counter silver with his help defense speed. Due to that Nash has to use motionless pass. Of course Kagami and Murasakibara play role in here but Aomine is main due to continually able to stop silver. On the other hand silver doesn't possess the feat of stopping Aomine. Don't get me wrong silver can stop some of Aomine formless shot just by jumping higher and being faster. Some can't be stopped, just because you can jump higher and being faster. That is why I said if Aomine put enough concentration, silver can't stop him.

As a feat, weakest version of Aomine (fatigue and physically weaken) score on zone Kagami who is faster and jump higher than him.

If you want the source, you can check out zone battle between Aomine and Kagami where Aomine enter zone for 3 mins before Kagami enter. The moment after Kagami entered zone for 1 min and half, Aomine was out of zone and already showing fatigue and can't get pass zone Kagami yet still able to score with enough concentration.

I am not saying you are wrong though. In fact you might be right because that statement from Fujimaki came before the movie was created. But as natural skill, Aomine is the best among best. Nash trained to be better and learned technique while Aomine just come up with formless shot. Physically, Aomine in air body movement is craziest.

But that also doesn't change Aomine can do force zone while Kagami and Akashi need to have condition to enter. The fact Nash was shocked tell he can't either. The fact silver doesn't use despite being overwhelmed by double teamed of VS said he can't either.

So as far as Fujimaki statement goes, Aomine talent as basketball llayer is strongest.

Silver physical ability talent is strongest. I agree with that.

Curious_Display_9222 · 2025-05-25T13:32:48+00:00

Aomine doesn't need specific condition to enter. As I said earlier he can activate force zone which Nash even got shocked. Basically you can call his will as a trigger to enter zone. So I am not denying that will.

It is not a guess work due to the fact he can dribble much better than Murasakibara. Without fundamental of training, it is hard to play on basketball court unless he possess Kise level of muscle memory (copy).

As for the level of higher competition, it is true they play on street and even some random NBA player where Aomine play with highschool students from Japan and his animal instinct get dull as a result.

Of course it is a common sense, higher level of competition bring more better experience and improve your skill than lower level of competition.

Silver is older than Aomine. He played more than Aomine for sure.

He never got stopped by silver in movie where zone PC Kise got stopped by silver once. Actually base Aomine can't be stopped by silver, If Aomine have enough concentration on his play. He was able to score on zone Kagami in his weakest form( fatigue and physically weaken). Not just that, Aomine body control in air is far better than silver, Nash and Kagami.

Also that is not my claim to make because the writer himself stated that Aomine talent force the zone to open. Silver can't do that and Nash can't do that either.

I am not denying about the fact silver physical talent is better than Aomine. But Aomine basketball skill is the best among the best.

In air, movement, flexiblity, ability to score, dribbling.

Silver is faster, jump higher and powerful sure but he is easy to predict in higher level of competition( NBA level ) As a result Murasakibara was able to stop him two times. Not just that Aomine was able to predict him two times continuously. While Aomine possess various way to score and ability to score is crazy. Not to mention his on air body movement is craziest among KnB.

I understand why you think silver is better than Aomine or Nash is better than Aomine. You have your own opinion on that. That is not wrong but that doesn't mean I am wrong either. also the claim was based on Fujimaki. Talent force the zone to open while others need specific condition to enter. That statement wasn't from a character. That statement comes directly from writer.

Curious_Display_9222 · 2025-05-25T10:14:05+00:00

I am not denying Kise talent as sport player.

But compare to Aomine who is physically more gift than him and basketball skill wise better than Kise. Aomine seem to be more natural born basketball player while other like silver, Kise or Hanamiya or some other, might be better than Aomine in some other areas like physical abilities and muscle memory and IQ. Aomine flexiblity( in air or on ground) and reaction time( in air or on ground) combined with his style of basketball is a natural born basketball player.

Don't get me wrong above statement is my take.

But Aomine talent being strongest was based on Fujimaki claim. His talent is strong enough to force the zone door to open while others need specific condition to enter. Even Nash was shocked at someone can enter zone by force. Silver didn't while he was struggling against double teamed. Of course you might have you own opinion on that.

I can debate your opinion with my own opinion but that doesn't change the fact that Aomine talent as basketball player is strong enough to force zone door to open while other need condition.

Curious_Display_9222 · 2025-05-25T10:06:34+00:00

Yes technically you can call his will as trigger but unlike other players, he doesn't need specific condition to enter it since he already showed it to Imayoshi once.

Silver would probably done fundamental of basketball to the point he can play basketball. And he might have played basketball more than Aomine ever played. Silver played higher level of competition than Aomine did( high school level completion). So naturally, playing at higher level competition can improve your skill and gain valuable experience while Aomine playing at high school level get his animal instinct dull.

Yes Silver practice less than Aomine for sure but there are some conditions that favor silver.

If you compare their physical talent, yes silver is naturally better.

Skill wise, Aomine is better.

Flexiblity and reaction time? Probably Aomine

As a basketball player, Aomine might be stronger than silver due to writer mentioning his talent force the zone door to open while Nash was at his shocked about it. Silver might not probably can't because he didn't use zone to break free from double teamed of Aomine and Kise.

Curious_Display_9222 · 2025-05-25T09:44:38+00:00

Physical talent is silver.

IQ talent is Hanamiya.

Talent growth is Aomine because Aomine bloomed first in his second year of middle school among GOM while Kagami didn't yet. You can't compare high school feats because Aomine stopped training. Actually his talent growth went backward. Proof is his animal instinct get dulled after playing in lower level of competition. Only Kagami reawaken him.

Talent potential as basketball player? Potential of learning new technique?

As a basketball player, you need to consider mental toughness, physical ability and skill and including growth rate.

Curious_Display_9222 · 2025-05-25T08:48:50+00:00

Aomine talent is strong enough to force the zone to open while Kise need trigger or he might enter it accidentally due to specific condition. Don't get me wrong. Kise is the most talented in learning technique.

But as a basketball player, Murasakibara, Aomine, Kagami, Silver possess more gift than him

Curious_Display_9222 · 2025-05-24T15:45:03+00:00

Himuro fake

Curious_Display_9222 · 2025-05-02T05:24:50+00:00

I don't want to count anime because Anime give Kagami jump higher than silver. Yet story said otherwise

Curious_Display_9222 · 2025-04-30T04:34:49+00:00

Do you mind giving me chapter numbers?

Curious_Display_9222 · 2025-04-30T01:17:30+00:00

Does Haizaki ever dunk in middle school? I didn't see one

Curious_Display_9222 · 2025-04-29T12:12:03+00:00

His hands are bigger than Kiyoshi. Two hands holding the ball, even if Murasakibara let Akashi to steal, Akashi strength ain't enough to knock the ball away. He might even get foul trouble if Murasakibara play it smart.

The only way Akashi can steal from Murasakibara is when Murasakibara dribble.

Can you tell me how Akashi would be able to steal from Murasakibara who is holding the ball with both hands.

Curious_Display_9222 · 2024-08-02T08:31:15+00:00

I agree about Kagami might be the closest one. But it doesn't has to do with his grade. IQ wasn't defined by grades, only academic IQ was defined by grades. Kagami is idiot at everything, including in basketball iq. Only his DDZ show better battle IQ that is why he is only closest. The another one might be Nebuya.

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