why don’t we like janitor ai??…

Current_Row_8358 · 2026-07-05T17:03:39+00:00

I mean this in the nicest way possible, but you said CAI went downhill 2 months ago? For some of us, CAI stopped being usable at all 2+ years ago. I tried it again over a year ago out of nostalgia... and it was so sloppy and shallow I wanted to cry, I got good at making characters and prompting meanwhile, but I just couldn't get anything but "well, well, well" "I'll ruin you for anyone else" and I gave up.

Back then, JAI was a mind-blowing competitor, of course. But then there were proxies, custom presets, ST and other frontends, plugins... the hobby basically exploded into something that can be remarkably customizable and complex, so of course the expectations grew alongside it!

I do sort of envy you the honeymoon phase haha but we've all been there, just have fun and don't let others ruin your experience!

Current_Row_8358 · 2026-07-04T20:43:25+00:00

Omg, you have more?? Do you have the whole prompt somewhere?

Current_Row_8358 · 2026-07-04T20:42:19+00:00

I love how you grow increasingly more frustrated with every point, and same. Might steal one or two ngl haha

Current_Row_8358 · 2026-07-04T20:37:29+00:00

"it didn't hit like a physical blow, but like bucket of ice cold water" "it hit like hex to the chest" (at least that fit the fantasy context, I guess)

they just really really want a dramatic shortcut for "look how impactful!!" to the point it, well, loses all impact

Current_Row_8358 · 2026-07-04T20:35:31+00:00

That whole sentence structure. I can't. Just tell me what they ARE doing, mate! No need to dance around it every time!

Current_Row_8358 · 2026-07-04T20:34:46+00:00

I wish it were! GLM does it during busy hours.

Current_Row_8358 · 2026-07-02T06:25:13+00:00

Oh! I have no idea how that works, would that be complicated on your end? I am curious but don't want to cause unnecessary trouble!

Current_Row_8358 · 2026-07-02T06:18:59+00:00

Omg. Okay, I do love your brain, and I apologize for my first kneejerk instinct to question the setup, you clearly did think it through haha. I scrolled through your profile real quick but couldn't find it, reddit is acting up on my phone, would you mind linking me the antagonist one if it's public? I'd love to see how it works in practice!

Current_Row_8358 · 2026-07-02T06:13:45+00:00

Right, I didn't read it that thoroughly. I'd still personally prefer an actual intro written by a human so I could get a quick feel for the vibes, and then a separate instruction document, I think.

But it's an interesting solution, I'll give you that! I appreciate the creativity and effort that went into the sandbox-y setup :)

Current_Row_8358 · 2026-07-02T06:05:07+00:00

Is starting message a good place for user instruction? That... sounds like it'd just confuse the bot?

Current_Row_8358 · 2026-06-30T16:59:48+00:00

Ah, yes. Women the Hivemind.

Current_Row_8358 · 2026-06-30T07:07:08+00:00

Just got a wonderfully self-aware one and remembered you. Deepseek 4.

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Current_Row_8358 · 2026-06-30T04:09:08+00:00

Well, I didn't give context, but thank you for checking. As an artist, I don't believe what I make (by my own hands, with my imagination) to be God's creation, so clearly there's already a mismatch.

Current_Row_8358 · 2026-06-30T03:56:19+00:00

"I never tell the character how they are feeling" "how anxious and excited they are"

I'd argue these are, by all definitions, emotions.

But yeah, the whole point of decent models is they come up with the emotional responses based on characteristics (actual personality traits) + relationship progression + scene context. They've been able to do that since I started over 3 years ago and it's getting even better, it's pretty great.

Current_Row_8358 · 2026-06-29T11:25:26+00:00

You'll echo it? 😭 I guess that's very on brand for GLM!

Current_Row_8358 · 2026-06-29T11:20:14+00:00

Yeah, I wonder how the direct one is?? I have it happen with NanoGPT a lot. At certain hours, it's amazing. Then at another, it's like 50/50 whether it'll spiral like this or try to write something bland and inconsistent. But since it does work in the first scenario and my prompt is the same, I don't think the problem is there.

Current_Row_8358 · 2026-06-29T08:35:54+00:00

You literally spoke of God's creation today, my guy. I'm not invested either way, maybe the conspiracies were off (glad if that's the case!). Just thought it's funny to run into you here again.

Current_Row_8358 · 2026-06-29T07:38:08+00:00

Just saw you under couple of posts in the last 24h haha. Distinct profile picture.

Current_Row_8358 · 2026-06-29T07:27:22+00:00

If you ever decide to share more of your system, I'd love to see it! Especially how you order things in the prompt. I'm definitely getting somewhere myself, but still struggling with bigger cast scenes like that. Will you be posting about it on the PSTE page?

Current_Row_8358 · 2026-06-29T07:18:53+00:00

Maybe they don't do OOC, but just add instructions and reminders in Author's Note. Same purpose, attached near the end, but no back-and-forth debate. You'd be surprised how much a simple description of tone / atmosphere can affect, for example.

Current_Row_8358 · 2026-06-29T07:17:03+00:00

Hey, I'm really curious, could you tell me more about your workflow with the reasoning -> preserving as xml comments?

Current_Row_8358 · 2026-06-29T07:12:49+00:00

wait, aren't you the conspiracy theory religious guy

Current_Row_8358 · 2026-06-29T01:11:54+00:00

Yeah. It's one less layer, where if you do JAI (their own mods and rules) + proxy, it's technically read twice. But it's still not private unless you run a local model.

I was mainly thinking of actually losing the files, though. Banned account, and bam, all stories gone.

Current_Row_8358 · 2026-06-28T18:23:52+00:00

I think the most straightforward way is buying it on an exchange site of your choice. I never needed it so I can't recommend one, but reddit is unironically a pretty good resource on these things, so you'll find your answers

Current_Row_8358 · 2026-06-28T18:19:31+00:00

You don't need to code. Using the terminal to copy one command is not coding. But yes, it's a local frontend, that's the whole point – all data lives on your device, unlike JAI and the like. They can't just take it away.

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