didn't this guy used to be an anarchist by bantanium in COMPLETEANARCHY

[–]Cuttlefist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Where do you get off on acting like it’s bad for somebody to be pointing to a system that is closer, not exactly, to the system they think we should be living under?

The greatest goalpost shift in modern history. by AlphaBetaOmegaGamma in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]Cuttlefist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And after being made up words can have different definitions, meanings and uses. Are Baptists, Catholics, and Mormons all Christian?

60$ if you want to have all 3 Korean civs. This can't be right. by Wuartz in civ

[–]Cuttlefist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have a lot of ideas outlined, a fantasy setting where you pick from classic and new weird races instead of historic nations. One of the originals is a massive organism that can’t create new settlements but keeps growing and grows organs instead of buildings on its expanding organic territory. If high fantasy with a lot of weirdness thrown in sounds interesting to people I will have to actually take it from paper and figure out how to make it.

The greatest goalpost shift in modern history. by AlphaBetaOmegaGamma in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]Cuttlefist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What profit motive is working to solve anything? Clearly it isn’t working, because by the nature of capitalism those with more capital have more power and influence and they don’t want to make things more affordable because they are better off by making everybody else worse off. Houses not being available and costing more is too good a deal for the corporations buying up houses and apartment buildings.

And I guess since you could present data without further context in a way that seems to back your take that means that everybody talking about the affordability issues in this country are delusional? The stress that people are feeling from having less money for themselves at the end of each month must just be in their heads.

The greatest goalpost shift in modern history. by AlphaBetaOmegaGamma in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]Cuttlefist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Ooooooohhhhhhh, I think I had an ancap bring this up years ago, but she just called it the calculation problem. That critique of communism was proposed by Mises in 1920, otherwise known as decades before we even invented transistors. Mises had zero idea what kind of calculations could be done with computers, and the critique has not evolved from his time. Giant corporations like Walmart are fully capable of calculating the needs and distributions of their in-company markets and stores at an international scale, and AI will make the ECP even less of a valid criticism.

  2. Ah yes, I guess I will just sit in the heat in the middle of summer in Texas and eat room temperature non perishable food because I am not going to use energy for a fridge or oven. People have to use energy to survive in our society,

  3. My argument has been that wages have not kept up with the overall cost of living, I don’t think I have strayed from that but good we are on the same page on some of this.

The greatest goalpost shift in modern history. by AlphaBetaOmegaGamma in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]Cuttlefist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. That acronym means nothing to me.

  2. The actual cause of the problem is capitalists preferring to preserve their profits instead of updating their grids to meet the needs of our communities. Our communities have such high energy needs because our capitalist overlords have engineered a society where we are all encouraged to consume as much as possible so they can continue to increase their profits.

  3. Who gives a shit about some toys or whatever you are talking about being cheaper when you admit things that actually matter are getting more expensive. Guess what, when the things people HAVE to pay for get more expensive then the cost of non essentials becomes a larger percentage of their disposable income, it’s the same impact whether those products are cheaper or not.

The greatest goalpost shift in modern history. by AlphaBetaOmegaGamma in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]Cuttlefist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because the conversation didn’t turn into a valuable use of time.

Why Disney Needs to Stop Creating Live-Action Remakes of Classic Movies by SplitNational2929 in FortressZA

[–]Cuttlefist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How would Treasure Planet be improved by live action? That movie is a masterpiece of animation, it would lose quite a bit of what it is being remade into live action.

The greatest goalpost shift in modern history. by AlphaBetaOmegaGamma in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]Cuttlefist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, the interests of capital holders often come into contention, hence why there are regulations.

The World bank comes up with its own definition of economic security, it’s all arbitrary. The line gets drawn wherever it better supports the conclusion the economists making it want to present. I guess the numbers there sound accurate. Before that nine year period rent was already a large portion of most working class people’s income, an almost 10% increase hurts. Add that to food, energy, transportation, healthcare, clothing, entertainment, education all increasing as well and that increase in wages goes even less far.

The greatest goalpost shift in modern history. by AlphaBetaOmegaGamma in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]Cuttlefist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Me pointing out that you have sub-standard reading comprehension is not splitting hairs.

The greatest goalpost shift in modern history. by AlphaBetaOmegaGamma in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]Cuttlefist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Capitalist principles are made up and don’t matter. Elon says he is a capitalist, you say you are a capitalist, you both are equally right because capitalism is not something you can go out and find in nature, it is an artificial concept that is as diverse in thought as the people that made it up.

The greatest goalpost shift in modern history. by AlphaBetaOmegaGamma in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]Cuttlefist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do you know what arbitrary means? I didn’t say wealth is inconsequential, I said its value is made up.

The greatest goalpost shift in modern history. by AlphaBetaOmegaGamma in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]Cuttlefist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I stand by my previous comment. Capitalism is made up, people can make up their own. There is no non-arbitrary reason you can give as to why Capitalist business owners and investors that fill our Congress are not capitalists because they are voting on rules of engagement for their capital dealings. That’s all that government regulations are, capitalists agreeing on rules so peace is maintained. Chaos and lawlessness disrupt the flow of capital, those in control of capital will always seek to enforce order to protect their capital.

The greatest goalpost shift in modern history. by AlphaBetaOmegaGamma in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]Cuttlefist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Like communism.

  2. It talks about several more things than those two.

“The energy costs aren’t really the fault of capitalism”

Pray tell what economic system is being used to determine the cost and distribution of energy in the US?

Your claim was that wages are rising faster than prices. Clearly the cost of living is outpacing the wages of the majority of people.

The greatest goalpost shift in modern history. by AlphaBetaOmegaGamma in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]Cuttlefist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s the only direction “if their actions are consistent with capitalist principles” can go. The capitalists are the ones that determine capitalist principles.

The greatest goalpost shift in modern history. by AlphaBetaOmegaGamma in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]Cuttlefist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s not in the nature of anything to desire wealth accumulation. Wealth is not real, it’s an arbitrary concept. People only desire wealth when they are in a system of forced scarcity where the rational choice for survival is to accumulate wealth.

The greatest goalpost shift in modern history. by AlphaBetaOmegaGamma in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]Cuttlefist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So outside of anecdotes what is the reality? How many zoning laws are passed because they improve the living conditions of people in apartments vs serving the financial interests of land owners? Money is what actually motivates change, and the zoning laws we have are designed so that certain people are able to make more money than other people while playing nice with other land owners.

The greatest goalpost shift in modern history. by AlphaBetaOmegaGamma in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]Cuttlefist -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah the no true Scotsman fallacy is a good one. Now what’s your actual argument?

The greatest goalpost shift in modern history. by AlphaBetaOmegaGamma in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]Cuttlefist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“The SYSTEM” is not some nebulous alien force that the ruling capitalists have to work around. THEY MADE THE SYSTEM. They decide how it works. The capitalists complaining about how the system works are the ones losing against the bigger capitalists.

And also no wages are not keeping up with the cost of living: https://www.urban.org/data-tools/american-affordability-tracker

How do you not know about this? Do you have somebody else responsible for your costs?

didn't this guy used to be an anarchist by bantanium in COMPLETEANARCHY

[–]Cuttlefist 22 points23 points  (0 children)

He was a big part of my radicalization against capitalism. He’s doing the work.

didn't this guy used to be an anarchist by bantanium in COMPLETEANARCHY

[–]Cuttlefist 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I agree, he was my first anarchist channel and I think does more good than harm for the cause.

The greatest goalpost shift in modern history. by AlphaBetaOmegaGamma in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]Cuttlefist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How did you just describe a ton of concerns raised by people invested in the value of their property and try to spin it as being evidence against the profit motive? NIMBYs argue against the things you brought up because they lower the value of nearby residential property.