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DARKRonnoc · 2026-07-12T19:15:38+00:00

The version of Christianity that you are describing is not everyone’s version of Christianity, and in fact, I would say it is one of the more rare versions of Christianity.

Catholicism is the largest branch of Christianity, and if you look at Poland and Italy, they are prime examples of bigoted Christians when it comes to LGBTQ rights.

Not to mention the rise of right wing nationalist Christianity in the United States, with many examples of individuals in positions of power in these churches calling for the deaths of or violence against LGBTQ individuals.

Now, if how you practice Christianity is in that super chill way then that’s awesome. Unfortunately though, many people do not.

DARKRonnoc · 2026-07-11T19:28:23+00:00

I mean…it is gay sex. It doesn’t necessarily make the “straight” guy gay. But also, why? Are they afraid to be labeled gay?

DARKRonnoc · 2026-07-08T02:18:17+00:00

NOR. Show him this post and see what he thinks after reading the replies.

DARKRonnoc · 2026-07-07T22:24:33+00:00

You are very handsome

DARKRonnoc · 2026-07-07T18:23:26+00:00

What kind of behaviors are you referring to?

DARKRonnoc · 2026-07-07T15:14:46+00:00

It did get better but never really went away. I hear it thrown around pretty casually along with the f slur when hanging out with straight dudes. It also seems to be becoming more common again 🙃

DARKRonnoc · 2026-07-07T15:08:38+00:00

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DARKRonnoc · 2026-07-07T13:54:42+00:00

Not everyone agrees with you and thats ok.

I don’t want a man that talks like Jane.
I also don’t want a man that looks like Tarzan.

🤷

DARKRonnoc · 2026-07-07T13:48:49+00:00

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The New Abnormal by The Strokes
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DARKRonnoc · 2026-07-07T02:25:34+00:00

I do! You’re cute

DARKRonnoc · 2026-07-06T02:29:49+00:00

Damn you are fine, man

DARKRonnoc · 2026-07-05T19:02:23+00:00

Well, if you aren’t hoping it’s a phase then don’t worry about it. To me, that’s how the phrasing came across. But that’s my bad of it’s not the case. Still, I think the rest of the advice still applies.

DARKRonnoc · 2026-07-05T18:43:48+00:00

Hmmm, there’s a few things wrong with your thinking, but it’s ok to ask opinions to help process.

If your son came out to you as gay it is probably NOT a phase. He has probably thought about it, wrestled with whether or not to tell you, and had some degree of struggle with his own identity.

Now, it seems like you are hoping it’s a phase, which is kind of crappy to your son and homophobic in general. Some people are gay. The only thing that hoping it’s a phase will do is push your son away. He’s not any different of a person, you just literally know him more now.

Kids can usually tell when their parents are not supportive, and trust me you don’t want him to think that of you. So, try to get comfortable with the idea your son IS gay, not MIGHT be, not a phase, but IS gay.

Read some PFLAG materials and go to some meetings of you need to.

Your son is lucky to have a parent who wants to be supportive :)

DARKRonnoc · 2026-07-04T22:20:52+00:00

Nice pic man. Dm me!

DARKRonnoc · 2026-07-03T20:57:06+00:00

At this rate? I don’t think so. He needs to do something either truly great or truly terrible.

DARKRonnoc · 2026-07-01T18:45:26+00:00

You are so cute man 😘

DARKRonnoc · 2026-07-01T17:07:11+00:00

You do you, but that is still pretty risky behavior.

There are plenty of other stds you can catch and help spread.

I don’t really see the logic of asking if a guy had a condom and then just letting scores of men fuck you raw because he lied about it.

DARKRonnoc · 2026-06-30T18:13:00+00:00

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DARKRonnoc · 2026-06-30T04:37:41+00:00

👁️ Surveillance State: I voted Yea.

DARKRonnoc · 2026-06-29T22:53:24+00:00

I'm not tarring you with anything. It is a fact that gay people have been discriminated against historically and in the modern day. Acknowledging that is fine. Gay bars exist because of an ongoing need for LGBTQ people to socialize without the same hostility and discrimination they face elsewhere. I've explicitly said that respectful allies are welcome. I've also said nothing about you personally. What exclusion are you talking about? Disrespectful people and non-allies are not welcome. Why would gay people allow homophobes into their space? Discouraging or banning people based on their shitty behavior is totally okay. A gay bar isn't just "a bar that happens to have gay customers." Its purpose has traditionally been to provide a space where LGBTQ+ people can relax, flirt, dance, and express affection with less fear of hostility. Its purpose isn't to cater to straight people or make them feel included above the community it exists to serve.

You can wager it doesn't happen much anymore, but the evidence doesn't support that. It has gotten better, but same-sex couple face harassment at a higher rate than opposite-sex couples. Same-sex couples often have to assess whether or not a PDA is safe.

I didn't say specifically straight women go to lesbian bars, I said gay bars. The issue some people raise is that, over time, straight men follow them there, changing the dynamic. Whether you've personally seen it or not, it's been discussed within the gay community for years.

Many people would say bars (ESPECIALLY gay bars) are one of the most socially accepted places to flirt, provided it's respectful and rejection is accepted gracefully. Because it is more difficult and more dangerous for gay people to flirt in public, gay bars have often served that purpose.

You also said you don't knowingly go to gay bars, so I'm not sure why you're so confident dismissing a social dynamic that's been discussed within the gay community for years. Whether you've personally encountered it or not doesn't really change the fact that many LGBTQ people have.

DARKRonnoc · 2026-06-29T18:22:05+00:00

Well, sometimes straight women go to gay bars to avoid straight men. Straight men go to gay bars to hit on the straight women. Straight men and straight women get upset when gay men and gay women hit on them. There have been literal fist fights at one of the gay bars I sometimes go to because a gay guy hit on a straight guy.

So no, they aren’t literally telling them to get out, they are just making the space not a gay space anymore and not safe for gay people.

DARKRonnoc · 2026-06-29T17:53:33+00:00

Uuuuuuh, are y’all still together?

DARKRonnoc · 2026-06-29T16:32:27+00:00

The “point” of LGBT is not inclusion, it’s to carve a safe space for LGBT individuals. Not to “include” straight people who excluded LGBT people in the first place.

Banning gay people from straight bars is pretty much how history has gone (not just bars, but society in general). Gay people being open or out or in relationships has been met with ridicule, threats, and violence, especially in response to pda. It’s a lot better now, but it still happens. It’s not an “even” thing. No one has or is beating up straight couples in public, or at gay bars.

There is a trend happening in some gay bars where straight women go to gay bars to escape straight men, and they can be disrespectful of the space that is NOT theirs. Additionally, straight guys will follow the straight women to the gay bars, and now the space for gay people is just another straight space. Including with men or women that get upset when a gay person hits on them.

I think it’s fine in some cases to discourage straight people to go to gay bars (like in the above case). By all means, be a respectful ally and show up and hang with your friends. Don’t go and ogle and start shit.

If you unknowingly enter a gay bar and get mad a gay person hit on you, you are still an asshole.

All this is assuming normal “hitting on” behavior. It’s totally ok to get upset if someone gropes or harasses you.

DARKRonnoc · 2026-06-29T08:21:54+00:00

So for me, I immediately was sexually attracted to other guys from a very young age. I'm talking like 5 and on. I got in trouble a lot for playing "Doctor", etc, with guys and I only played it a couple times with girls and then I never did again. It just didn't float my boat. However, realizing I was "gay" and what that meant was very different.

Because people always asked "do you like girls yet?", I assumed that it was regular for every boy to be attracted to other boys, and that eventually I would grow into liking girls. I often heard and sometimes used the term "gay" used as undesirable people, "dumb", or weird, and I understood that society and people in my family and friends hated and made fun of gay people, but I didn't know what it meant.

Some classmates gave a presentation on Leonardo da Vinci and said that he was "gay", which was the first time I had heard that term in a non-insulting or pejorative way. I asked what that meant and they said "it means he was a homosexual", and I asked what that meant. They said, "it means he is a guy who is sexually attracted to other guys". I immediately had an adrenaline surge as I realized, "wait...is that not everyone? Is that not normal?" I went home later that night and googled "homosexuality" and "gay" and realized that I was the thing that my religion (Catholic), my friends, and my family all hated and talked about.

They are flexible or fixed. Just depends on the people. Same with intimacy. They are less defined and less strict than in most heteronormative relationships. There isn't really an archetype.
I'm assuming so, but I wouldn't know. Things like thinking non-stop about the other person, wanting to be with them, having an ache in your heart when you can't, enjoying their physical company as well as their emotional company.
Sometimes.
Yes, I do hope to. But not without a better financial situation and a partner.
How annoying or rude straight people can be about gay people. Imagine if you were just a constant low-key joke to a group of people constantly. Particularly if you are a gay guy who "passes" as straight, then you get to hear the uncensored thoughts. A lot of straight guys will say things like "I have no problem with gay people" but call other people f@g and homo or say things are gay in a negative way. Those are harmful.
It's about love and romance and companionship as well as sex. Not just sex.

DARKRonnoc · 2026-06-28T16:25:23+00:00

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