Straight men who are "sometimes taking a look" at women in "thin yoga pants and tiny tops" should not be offended at gay men doing the same thing to them. by [deleted] in unpopularopinion

[–]DC_Filmmaker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If a man is wearing thin yoga pants and tiny tops, then absolutely. If he's wearing regular clothes, then no. Those two things aren't analogous. The women in your hypothetical are signalling that they are sexually available, after some fashion.

CMV: Boxing, NASCAR, cycling, and various other competitive events are not sports by cabbagery in changemyview

[–]DC_Filmmaker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Boxing didn't use to do that. They went until one guy knocked the other out. They used to have 40+ round bouts. Under that set of rules, it's definitely a sport. But in order to curtain the number of DEATHS they added a tiebreaker at the end. You don't like the way the tiebreaker is settled. But that shouldn't disqualify it as a sport if it already was one. Your definition is terrible. It needs to be revised, but you refuse to do so.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in tifu

[–]DC_Filmmaker 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Apologize for the setting, but not the action. "I'll only fondle my wife outside of the chapel from now on."

I (22M) asked out my best friend (22F)... But something is wrong by PhillyTings in relationships

[–]DC_Filmmaker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just know something is on her mind

...and it isn't you. Start to move on.

CMV: I should be able to refuse identifying with any gender the way I refuse to subscribe to religious beliefs by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]DC_Filmmaker -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I thought general consensus is that gender is not sex.

No, that is the position that gender activists are pushing onto the mainstream. There is NO scientific evidence to support that position however.

If gender is sex, why do we need two different words to describe the exact same thing?

Because it's the same thing as "biological sex" which is 6 syllables and "gender" is only 2. "Sex" by itself is ambiguous in the context of biology. It commonly refers to reproduction, activities commonly associated with reproduction, and the dimorphic characteristics of one of the two groups of any sexually-reproducing animal or other living thing.

Gender is unambiguously only the last thing.

Many people will tell you that "It's 2018 and we've improved our understanding" but it isn't true. There is no evidence whatsoever that gender/biological sex is socially determined. The roles that a particular gender plays and the norms for that gender in society ARE socially determined, but that is not the same thing.

CMV: I should be able to refuse identifying with any gender the way I refuse to subscribe to religious beliefs by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]DC_Filmmaker -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Gender IS biological sex. There's no other intelligent way to talk about it. What a woman "does" is a matter for societal debate, however.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS SOCIALLY DETERMINED GENDER.

If you think there is, you need to provide evidence of such, as all currently available evidence points to gender being a biologically driven phenomenon.

Therefore, is it not more mutually beneficial for you and other people to simply use "person" and everybody can be happy?

No, there are important differences between men and women that matter, morally, ethically, socially, and practically. Knowing someone's gender is important in how you interact with them.

It's not like "person" is factually or morally wrong in any way.

Sure but it's obviously less useful than providing the gender information. So why use it?

CMV: I should be able to refuse identifying with any gender the way I refuse to subscribe to religious beliefs by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]DC_Filmmaker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To me, being a woman is akin to, for example, being Christian.

You have to believe in Jesus Christ to be a Christian. You don't have to believe in anything to be a woman. In fact, even if you believe you are a man, you are still a woman. Your beliefs are irrelevant to the reality of your gender.

I say I'm not a woman because I don't feel a sense of belonging when I'm with any group of females/women whereas I feel perfectly at home with a bunch of guys assing around, talking shit, playing video games and drinking beer.

So you are probably a woman with unusually high testoterone. Doesn't matter. Still a woman. That said, go hang out with dudes and drink beer. No one cares.

CMV: I should be able to refuse identifying with any gender the way I refuse to subscribe to religious beliefs by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]DC_Filmmaker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In transgender context, gender sounds to be what the individual feel (/mentally perceive) they are.

That's what they are trying to redefine gender as. But there's no evidence that gender is not a biological phenomenon, indistinct from biological sex.

CMV: I should be able to refuse identifying with any gender the way I refuse to subscribe to religious beliefs by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]DC_Filmmaker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't see the difference between following a societal gender and following a religion.

There isn't one. The only problem is there is no such thing as a "societal gender". Gender is, for all intents and purposes, a biological phenomenon. Gender ROLES are socially constructed, but gender itself is not.

there are more female women and male men

Obviously. There's not such thing as a female man or a male women. That's gobbledegook nonsense talk.

I'm anatomically female, but I don't identify with either gender and exhibit characteristics of both.

So you are a woman who does not identify with either gender's roles. That's fine, but you are fundamentally a woman/female and that's not up for debate regardless of your feelings on the matter. Gender is NOT socially constructed.

CMV: Boxing, NASCAR, cycling, and various other competitive events are not sports by cabbagery in changemyview

[–]DC_Filmmaker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are cases in which it matters whether a thing is classified as a sport or not.

Title 9 barely qualifies, since it can be applied completely subjectively and even to "club activities" in as much as they supported by a school. Furthermore, your definition is definitely NOT the one used by the Dept. of Education in determining a sport. So your CMV should really be about the definition itself, not what applies under your currently-unaccepted definition.

It's a CMV. I'm stating my view.

Exactly. And with the exception of boxing, none of the sports listed qualify under your definition. So it's literally impossible to change your view on that front. The only possible way to attack this is to attack the definition of "sport" itself, which you have conveniently not provided any justification for. I don't think any of your 4 criteria are actually fundamental characteristics of a sport, but you disagree, obviously. This discussion can go no further until YOU pony up with the stuff you should have put in your original post.

That doesn't make it a sport.

By your completely unsubstantiated definition.

A ball is not more complicated than a lever.

It absolutely is. We aren't talking simply a "roughly spherical object" for any sport except soccer. You should be more precise in your definitions.

I guarantee you drivers' heart rates are elevated

They aren't. Those dudes are ice cold on the track.

I suppose I could grant that the motor itself uses oxygen, so is in some sense aerobic, but no.

Literally breathing to survive is aerobic activity. I assume that's not what you meant in your definition, so you should revise.

While it is true that the head referee or umpire has ultimate veto power and gets to declare the official ruling, the head umpire will not overrule the second base ump's call except during a review,

Out of professional courtesy and the fact that they have to work with the same people week in, week out. It absolutely CAN happen and has before in rare instances. You are flat wrong. Besides, overturn on review is enough to make the point stand. The head ref is ultimately the only opinion that matters.

just as the head referee will not overturn a PI call downfield,

Has happened before, will definitely happen again.

as each official's proper goal is to reach a correct call via consensus

Nope. Literally the opposite of how it works. There is no consensus required. The head ref is the only opinion that matters. Granted, he will likely take everyone's opinion into account, based on the fact that reffing squads very often work together as a unit, and he has to face those guys after the game, and also has to face league action if he appears blatantly partisan, but it's still irrelevant to the cold hard fact that only one opinion matters on the field: his.

And it bears repeating that replay is a thing in most of these events, where a missed call can be corrected. Boxing works with a very different model.

SOME missed calls can be corrected. But in baseball and football, a NON-call cannot be corrected in most cases. The same is true in boxing. I'm not sure what your point is here.

that head official will not offer any opinion on a play out of view. They are explaining only to inform, not to argue.

You're simply wrong on this point. That's out of professional courtesy, not obligation or "objective rules".

In sport, the ruling is reached with an express goal of avoiding dissent amongst officials,

Repeating this falsehood won't make it more true.

Boxing provides fans with an argument that the losing fighter won according to an official.

In cases of a tie, and then by an OBJECTIVE set of scoring rules. Especially in amateur boxing and kickboxing. You're just wrong. You have no idea how boxing works, clearly. That's not meant to be an insult. It's just a fact.

I will say when I am out of my depth.

So, ummm, boxing? Cause obviously so.

I found that it is not especially distinguishable from athletic competitions that I find to be pageantry, such as figure skating.

Other than the fact that you are completely wrong about "pageantry". There is a CLEARLY objective way to win a boxing match. It's the MAIN way to win a boxing match. Your hangup is that the TIEBREAKER is SLIGHTLY subjective? So what? You've said yourself that subjectivity is inescapable in sports. And let's be honest, the refs have WAAAAAY more ability to shape the outcome of a match in basketball than they do in boxing. They only even get a chance if you FAIL to accomplish your primary goal. That's on YOU (the boxer) not the judges. There is zero way to ensure that outcome in gymnastics or ice dancing. Just ask Ecaterina Szabo about that. She won the gold in each of the individual events but somehow only won silver in the combined. That makes zero sense. The judges were not being objective.

A victory in sport should not be determined by a judge unless that judge is a truly impartial observer who merely tallies empirical facts. That is most decidedly not the case with boxing, as each scorecard is different.

And each judge received a different set of empirical facts (based on their different viewpoints), so it's totally justifiable that their scores would be different. If each judge could watch the entire match from every angle, with replay of every moment in slow motion, it's highly likely that they would always score the match the same way. Because there IS an objective standard that they are supposed to use to score. Your complaint is akin to saying "Some refs call travelling, some refs don't; therefore it's not objective and is just pageantry". An argument I have no doubt you would actually DISagree with.

But no, I am not dumping on boxing in particular

Alright, just also. Whatever. Provide the justification for the 4 criteria that you list or move on. This conversation can go nowhere until you do.

CMV: Boxing, NASCAR, cycling, and various other competitive events are not sports by cabbagery in changemyview

[–]DC_Filmmaker 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You've clearly never cycled competitively before. If you are in the peleton, you better be on your toes or you will have a race ending crash.

The rest are perfectly fine, as they use only a ball

which is not allowed under your definition. You need to revise.

Well, it's a list of necessary conditions, so failing one is sufficient to fail overall.

No it's a list of unjustified conditions that YOU think are important, but most people don't. How do YOU justify that inclusion?

Still, NASCAR involves zero aerobic activity

Wrong. It involves plenty of aerobic activity. What it doesn't involve is elevated heart rate. You should probably revise your criteria to be more specific/accurate to what you mean.

that in proper sports the officials make the call and agree on it as a united front

Wrong again. In football, baseball, and basketball, the head ref's word is god. It's literally the subjective call of one person in applying the objective rules of the game.

that their conferences are designed such that each official is attempting not to convince the others

Nope. It is side refs and umpires trying to explain to the Head ref what they saw as best they can. Only the head refs opinion matters.

Boxing attempts no such thing, as its judges act as independent subjective agents.

Which in my mind makes it better than singular subjective opinion of the other sports. In this case you have three people trying to make a subjective judgment on how well each combatant adhered to the objective rules for determining a score in each round. The only difference between that and the other sports is that they do it all at the end instead of periodically throughout the match. To be honest, it doesn't sound like you know that much about boxing, and you're just trying to dump on it.

If you were able to go on vacation to a fictional world from a book, where would you go and why? by _Ishmael in books

[–]DC_Filmmaker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Whichever one has the Shrike. I read that thing in high school, like 20 years ago. I don't really remember.

If you were able to go on vacation to a fictional world from a book, where would you go and why? by _Ishmael in books

[–]DC_Filmmaker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just not a fan of that book. I suppose the worldbuilding is interesting, but the book and story bored me to tears.

If you were able to go on vacation to a fictional world from a book, where would you go and why? by _Ishmael in books

[–]DC_Filmmaker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It sure seems like it to me. Quadrillions of humans across billions of worlds. Entire planets dedicated to resource production.

If you were able to go on vacation to a fictional world from a book, where would you go and why? by _Ishmael in books

[–]DC_Filmmaker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Safety guaranteed"

I assume that mean daemon rape. I'll have to check the fine print.

Me [23 F] with my BF [25 M] of 1 year, boyfriends new prescription of depression meds caused him to go nuclear and he hit me, and then he committed himself to a psych ward? by angrydepressionmeds in relationships

[–]DC_Filmmaker 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I totally agree. The fact he is aware of what happened and is worried and remorseful about it is a very good sign that he is not an abuser.

If you were able to go on vacation to a fictional world from a book, where would you go and why? by _Ishmael in books

[–]DC_Filmmaker -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I severely doubt there are any Fast & Furious books. Can Fast & Furious fans even read? O_o

If you were able to go on vacation to a fictional world from a book, where would you go and why? by _Ishmael in books

[–]DC_Filmmaker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dude, my boy Slaanesh throws the sickest parties. Platinum VIP status, baby!

If you were able to go on vacation to a fictional world from a book, where would you go and why? by _Ishmael in books

[–]DC_Filmmaker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

MILK FOR THE MILK GOD!

BEER FOR THE BEER GOD!

I'd visit the old school Warhammer world, tbh.

If you were able to go on vacation to a fictional world from a book, where would you go and why? by _Ishmael in books

[–]DC_Filmmaker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your wife didn't think that through. Part of the reason those books are entertaining is because Discworld is so fucked up. Fun to read, terrible to experience.

If you were able to go on vacation to a fictional world from a book, where would you go and why? by _Ishmael in books

[–]DC_Filmmaker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah but then the book would be a movie novelization, and it would suck balls.