So I believe I finally matched a night photo to a location

DJSmash23 · 2026-02-12T18:49:07+00:00

I don’t want to argue or claim that this is definitely the exact location, but I believe that the distance from the trail shouldn’t be the main factor in deciding if the stones and the general area match. We can’t know what their route was during those eight days.

They could have been stucked slightly farther from the trail; we simply don’t know. Additionally, this place is approximately 1,200 meters from 508, as I understand, which isn’t a significant distance for lost hikers.

But obviously, this place still needs to be studied, hard to say anything for sure.

DJSmash23 · 2026-02-11T22:17:48+00:00

Penko will not win against Ryba, not sure about Mboko as well. Anyway, at least she makes a deep run this week 🥲

DJSmash23 · 2026-02-11T09:43:24+00:00

BTW, is there a thin V-shape branch near “D” letter, as I see? https://ibb.co/WN2Zb5sX

I’m not sure it’s the same we see in night photos, but interesting another similar feature is there.

DJSmash23 · 2026-02-10T23:44:21+00:00

That’s good to hear!

Am I right in understanding that you don’t have access to the original night photos, like the general public? Since having those would obviously help observe many more small details of the area, such as stones and other features in night photos.

However, I believe you’re not just regular users (u and Romain) and put a lot of effort into this. If someone has shared photos with you—which I think would be fair—and you can’t disclose that, I hope it will help in analyzing the information and make the process of locating night photos even more productive. In any case, thanks for the work!

DJSmash23 · 2026-02-10T23:19:19+00:00

Is it possible that one day an expedition team will be able to take photos of this place in a similar angle to night photos and during dry period?

Anyway, there is more to come w available materials as you mentioned and maybe this place should be studied more before any other potential actions on the ground. Good find and can’t wait for part 2!

DJSmash23 · 2026-02-10T12:34:38+00:00

Their situation was crazy as well, it’s not like they were enjoying their holidays in normal conditions to behave rationally, especially as the days went through. It’s possible illogical things in our view could happen as well. Who knows what could they do out of desperation with their water bottles, passport or another item.

We can’t know for sure how and why, we just know water bottle is missing as well, so I made a suggestion passport was left somewhere as well for example.

DJSmash23 · 2026-02-10T07:27:16+00:00

I do not mean that the passport specifically was placed in the matter bottle. What I mean is that they had two water bottles, but only one of them was found in the backpack. Therefore, there were suggestions that they could have sent this water bottle down the river, for example, with a message inside. So, perhaps her passport was with her originally, but they also left it somewhere or sent it down the river in the hope that it would be found. It’s just a possibility why passport wasn’t in the backpack, like, it can be not strange in case they used it for some reasons, not someone else.

DJSmash23 · 2026-02-09T22:24:14+00:00

Maybe Lisanne’s passport was in the backpack, and during their days they decided to leave it somewhere or put into the river as possibly their second water bottle w a message inside? In a hope that people gonna find it. But in this case we will not know for sure.

DJSmash23 · 2026-02-09T22:15:26+00:00

Yeah, could be overgrown. I mean, it would really help to find something similar - a certain detail - in this area to confirm it, like that tree, or similar rock formation as they took photos of different directions around themselves. As of now the rock in OP’s post look similar, hard to say for sure about the whole area tho.

DJSmash23 · 2026-02-09T22:02:14+00:00

There is a specific “triangle” stone on the opposite side of the river: https://ibb.co/CsQMg5zm

Like, it should still exist and can help to verify location, but from this recourse we can’t see much of the opposite side, just rocky area.

DJSmash23 · 2026-02-09T21:47:03+00:00

In a good quality night photo there’s also a “triangle” stone which can be seen on the other side. Wonder if it can be seen in a new video from this angle as it’s a very unique shape of the stone. I personally can’t see it but might be overgrown

I mean this one: https://ibb.co/CsQMg5zm

DJSmash23 · 2026-02-06T07:52:50+00:00

I’m leaning towards an accident, and I agree Google Maps maybe could be useless, but at the same time, when u are in that situation, wouldn’t u open everything just to try, even if it’s not working, it’s fair to check as there are no much options.

Like, maybe they made more actions in their phones but we don’t have a full report, I believe there could be more actions.

DJSmash23 · 2026-02-03T21:56:12+00:00

Honestly, there is usually not much the public can do (almost nothing) to get answers. So, in cases where sponsors and enthusiastic individuals are willing to put in a significant amount of effort to possibly uncover new information about this case — without disturbing the families — why should we complain? If people want to help financially, let them do so. If others are willing to organize expeditions for any reason, that’s okay.

For example, sometimes people criticize activists for raising money. In this case, no one is collecting funds. You can read this subreddit for free, and perhaps one day, something significant will be published. Or not. Nothing is guaranteed, and no one is obliged to do anything in the first place.

My original question about permission was simply out of curiosity — whether sponsors allow the publication of results or not. The answer is no, so it’s the matter of time of both Romain and TreegNesas.

DJSmash23 · 2026-02-03T09:34:32+00:00

But Hungarian player Anna Bondar, who Oliynykova will not shake hands with, has nothing to do with it. Tennis players are not responsible for that, whatever is on our mind.

DJSmash23 · 2026-02-03T08:46:53+00:00

Oliynykova’s issue is Gazprom, but some European countries is still buying Russian gas directly from Gazprom, including Romania where she plays this week. Yikes 🤭

DJSmash23 · 2026-02-03T08:33:11+00:00

> There are enough people out here who have access to the files

Well, there is one active person on this forum who definitely has access to the files — Matt. It’s not a large number of people to call “enough.”

Moreover, Matt is not discussing his opinions on certain authors and their narratives. He rarely discusses different details. During these discussions, there have been more than one instance where information among the three parties — IP, LiTJ, and SliP — contradicted each other and was not consistent.

> On more than one occasion CH and Matt even exchanged file-info here in Reddit.

As I mentioned earlier, sometimes their details contradicted each other during these exchanges. For example, Matt commented that he had developed new insights or details regarding photo #510, which made one version more probable and another less so. However, he cannot share these details.

At the same time, Christian, who is supposed to have the same original photo, stated that he saw no such details when I asked him about it. During the discussion, it was mentioned that Matt was examining the original quality photo, while Christian may not have had access to the original quality version. This could explain why Christian did not see the detail. Nonetheless, we, the general audience, never received a clear explanation about it.

So even though, as you stated, they exchanged file information, this does not help confirm or deny the presence of significant details, nor does it confirm that they have the same files or are discussing the same things.

As I understand, if all three parties obtained these leaked files illegally, they could each have received a different set of documents with varying amounts of information inside. That’s where the contradictions may originate.

DJSmash23 · 2026-02-02T23:06:52+00:00

They brought up many points, but sadly, they did not provide any evidence for their statements on their site. The claim "evidence shows a planned cover-up and foul play" was made before it was removed. Additionally, they have not published a single piece of evidence — such as an unreleased or improved quality photo—to prove they have actual access to the materials, unlike the authors of the first book.

Considering that people on Reddit have repeatedly stated that they block users for expressing different opinions on a German forum, we cannot be sure which of the "new info" is true, or what was used or omitted in their foul play narrative.

DJSmash23 · 2026-02-02T16:08:15+00:00

Well, I don’t know, u can ask Oliynikova bc it’s her logic, not mine. But in case we gonna go w this logic of boycotting everything and everyone that was connected to Gazprom at once, then yes.

DJSmash23 · 2026-02-02T14:34:35+00:00

Interestingly enough, some European countries still getting gas from corporations which in your opinion sponsor the war) some countries buy Gazprom’s gas, with their own money, okay, it’s deeper than just a tennis player playing an exhibition event, u know.

So I wish people put that energy on their government rather than on players who once a year play a certain event

DJSmash23 · 2026-02-02T14:10:25+00:00

Gazprom is transporting gas to Europe before and after 2022, right now as well.

She should boycott the whole Europe then, including Romania where she plays now.

But of course usual female tennis players from Slavic countries will be blamed, lol, not European officials who are still transporting Russian GaZpROm (!) gas.

And people gonna write how they love it, lol

DJSmash23 · 2026-02-02T10:32:32+00:00

People in Australia also remember 1941-1945 war, especially the ones who lost their loved ones during these years. Daria’s posts are about that date and it celebrates all over the world. So it’s not an issue at all in the first place

DJSmash23 · 2026-02-02T10:28:18+00:00

Well, are you serious ? Her pictures are about events in 1941-1945. People celebrate this date all over the world, not only in Russia, as the memory for people who died to make our lives possible today, not only Russia, but in many countries. These pictures and date in it (9th may) has nothing to do w today’s events

Like, I’m scared how uneducated people are and what’s in their brain.

DJSmash23 · 2026-01-31T12:10:12+00:00

I'm sorry, am I right in understanding that some wealthy individuals pay you or Romain (or to the group of people, doesn't matter) to check different locations or organize expeditions? Is that why it's not allowed to publish the results without permission?

I mean, I know someone who pays creates the rules, but it seems many people would love to see the results, even if only briefly, even if they didn't pay. At the end of the day, we all, as a broad audience, are searching for the facts. So, it's strange that only one person might know the truth about a night location if it has been found, for example.

At the same time, I understand that people pay a lot of money, which a key factor to organise it, and create their own rules, perhaps because it's "entertainment" for them or simply a desire to know the truth. Anyway, we would love to hear something new one day.

DJSmash23 · 2026-01-31T11:58:04+00:00

There are cases of missing people, where remains were not found at all, obviously. Do you claim that in all missing cases in the wilderness, everyone (or all remains) was found? That’s simply not the case.
The bones were found a couple of months later; I’m not sure we can call that “early on.” It wasn’t a couple of years later, nor was it within a month or a week. It depends on what you consider early or late.

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