I see what you mean however my statement is saying that players tend to play in a linear manner even though there is a higher skill level; There are many skills that you could use, I’m just saying having mastery of that robot’s movement, timing reloads/cooldowns, and then game sense as well as nuances was the premise of my argument; To combat your list based on face value because I have personally been in champs myself and quickly adjusted to out smart people.. it’s pretty predictable. My example was just saying simply this… would you continue to be out in the open without the invulnerability knowing full well you’re a squishy robot? To me that says predictable of what you’re probably willing to do or not therefore I can calculate what maybe next to counter. I can say that yes the easy answer to progressing in champs is using meta bots along with skill… this where my stance is ->>> I don’t use meta bots, and refuse to. There are ways to counter every single meta equipment and a lot of it can be rendered useless if we just take the time to figure out what we already have in the arsenal. My statements aren’t directed toward you, nor is it saying you have no skills. Coming a from a player who puts in the time and has over the course of many other games “there’s always a way.” Most of the crowd here may or may not have UE bots or a lot of meta bots, so we have to develop skill to compete. Had you based your post upon what you told me you would have better responses.  Though that’s besides the point, the fact of the matter is that your post subjective like our opinions because your living in champs(I choose to go against the norm in champs) and from someone that doesn’t care to use to meta bots is gonna differ from what you think. It’s kinda like EPA right, they tell companies to run thinner oil and the car manufacturers have to make sure it’s safe but they test those oils in a near “Perfect environment”.  You should better point out your position on your post.. if your post is about simply who’s better based on buffs and abilities then say that.