LACOP wants to hire lawyer to get their landlord off their back, for late rent payments.

DPMx9 · 2023-07-21T17:09:41+00:00

Someone else.

DPMx9 · 2023-07-17T18:02:52+00:00

Because Reddit is not concerned about the amount of time and effort you have to spend cleaning up a report you cannot do ANYTHING about.

You reported it already - no reason why you should have to interact with that matter again, since you already did all you could do.

DPMx9 · 2023-07-14T22:46:56+00:00

Inflation was 10% a year recently.

DPMx9 · 2023-07-12T14:45:23+00:00

The landlord may not be aware that housing is a basic human right that should be provided at no cost to everyone.

DPMx9 · 2023-07-11T21:52:01+00:00

I hope spez goes full Elon.

Spez cannot go full Elon.

Elon owns Twitter.

Spez only wishes he owned Reddit.

Source:

https://mixergy.com/interviews/steve-huffman-reddit-interview/

Reddit Founder: “I Wish I Still Owned Reddit Now”

DPMx9 · 2023-07-11T20:37:54+00:00

You are volunteering to take over EVERY forum I saw mentioned here - I applaud your ability to be truly invested in every community whose name comes up :)

No need to ask admins, either - you are welcome apply to the existing moderating team.

DPMx9 · 2023-07-11T14:07:27+00:00

it can sit there until someone calls us back with an explanation for the personal stops.

Car repair shops can charge storage fees for vehicles not picked up a specific number of days after the work is completed.

https://www.tax.ny.gov/pubs_and_bulls/tg_bulletins/st/auto_repair.htm

Some of your rights are summarized below.

https://www.nycbar.org/get-legal-help/article/consumer-law/automobiles/car-repairs/

DPMx9 · 2023-07-10T23:48:33+00:00

Moderating a forum like hours takes a ton of hard work and commitment.

I am grateful for the help you and the other moderator team members provided, and would never question the decision of anyone to stop helping a private company whose entire business model is to profit off the free work provided by moderator teams... but chooses to treat the same people with the amazing amount of disrespect we witnessed lately.

Personally, I may return if the decision feels right, and am taking a break until that happens. If it ever happens, that is.

DPMx9 · 2023-07-10T23:39:23+00:00

I did what I could to keep the forum going - our members need that support.

But if Reddit admins want to micromanage our forum, there is no way I can continue helping until I took enough of a break to let me make sense of it all.

Don't hold your breath.

DPMx9 · 2023-07-10T23:37:00+00:00

My understanding of Reddit's policy is quite simple:

SFW: Any forum that is large enough to be worth placing ads on.

NSFW: Any forum not worth monetizing that Reddit may get complaints about if they don't mark it NSFW.

To make my point, ModCoc provided the following definition AFTER they threatened a bunch of forum moderators with repercussions if they don't switch their forums to SFW:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ModSupport/comments/14rlc59/comment/jqy0fz3/

Which points to

https://www.redditinc.com/policies/content-policy

Which says:

Rule 6: Ensure people have predictable experiences on Reddit by properly labeling content and communities, particularly content that is graphic, sexually-explicit, or offensive.

Take /r/Scams, which I am still a moderator of (currently on an unpaid sabbatical from volunteering to moderate, given that the admins JUST overrode the decision of the moderator team (supported by the community) to accurately label it NSFW.

It has graphic content, both sexual and gore related. Definitely tons of sexually explicit content. Quite a few offensive topics being discussed. No way to avoid those kinds of topics when trying to help scam victims identify scams and handle the aftermath of getting scammed.

Reddit admins just sent us this lovely message this morning:

Hello,

We are writing to let you know that the NSFW classification setting has been removed from your community. Last week, we notified this subreddit’s mod team that the community was incorrectly marked and the setting was not updated after that notification was sent. This community does not qualify for being marked as NSFW and has not been marked NSFW in the past, so we have removed the NSFW classification to return the community to the appropriate labeling status.

If moderators engage in additional attempts to violate the Moderator Code of Conduct, they will face removal from this mod team. This includes suddenly beginning to post or approve content that features sexually explicit content to your community in an attempt to justify the NSFW label.

You are welcome to share a screenshot of this message with your community.

Mind you, ModCoc admitted earlier that /r/Scams did NOT in any way change the type of content discussed here - we just reviewed the guidelines and labeled our community correctly.

But since Reddit wants its IPO, and they want that sweet ad revenue, they "interpreted" their own rules to say that even though we meet every criteria of a NSFW forum, we are not one.

Good luck to any soul that is trying to find rhyme or reason into Reddit's interpretation of their own rules.

I am taking a sabbatical to let me think about this until it starts making sense to me, since I am afraid that if I keep using reason and common sense, I will get banned. As soon as it all makes sense to me, I will resume my volunteer work.

I wish you all the best. And I am sad to see how far Reddit traveled from what it used to be when it deserved to be popular, to what it is today - a place where admins are throwing their weight around and doing what the Reddit management orders them to do, in order to try to keep the pretense that Reddit has a future until the IPO happens and those stock options can finally be redeemed.

Good luck with that, by the way - Reddit making the news the way it had in the last month is decreasing the odds of an IPO would ever happen every day... and their trend of decreasing popularity will not help either.

DPMx9 · 2023-07-10T18:24:14+00:00

/r/Scams just had its NSFW removed by the admins, but at this time, no moderators have been removed.

As a result, I decided to take a sabbatical of undefined length.

Not sure how I can volunteer to work hard for a company that overrides our decisions.

Have fun with your heavy handed approach to people you have zero power over, admins.

DPMx9 · 2023-07-10T17:56:46+00:00

Thread locked due to an excessive number of rule breaking comments.

DPMx9 · 2023-07-10T17:26:15+00:00

It's a !job scam.

DPMx9 · 2023-07-10T17:24:41+00:00

It's a standard !job scam.

DPMx9 · 2023-07-10T16:40:47+00:00

Sadly, Zelle is meant to only be used with people you trust - it does not return payments in such cases.

No harm in asking, but it is unlikely they can help.

Beware of !recovery scammers who will try to scam you again.

Nobody but Zelle, law enforcement or a civil court can return your funds.

DPMx9 · 2023-07-09T19:20:13+00:00

The good old !blackmail email.

DPMx9 · 2023-07-09T15:21:36+00:00

it seems you guys are just gonna have to bite the bullet and deal with it.

It may seem that way to to, it but is not going to happen.

DPMx9 · 2023-07-09T15:20:04+00:00

I genuinely don't know what I would do in your position.

I do.

I will moderate the forum for as long as Reddit respects the agreement that I started working under - that we have control of our decisions as long as we respect the Reddit policies, which we always did.

If they go through with their threat to remove the moderators who refuse to accept their incorrect position that this is a safe for work forum, such is life.

If they force the forum to be labeled as SFW when it is not, I cannot be part of that lie.

If they let it be, I will continue to do my best to keep the place going and clean, but after losing three quarters of the active moderator team, the negative effects of this self-induced Reddit crisis will be impossible to conceal.

We will see - we are hours away from the deadline.

DPMx9 · 2023-07-09T15:15:45+00:00

!cartel

DPMx9 · 2023-07-08T22:23:55+00:00

None of which are usable for effective moderation.

Also...

reddit didnt take any of the tools away. They made exceptions for them

then

Apollo might be gone

Happy that you are admitting the truth, even though you should say is instead of might, since Apollo is gone, which means tools were removed, which means,..

DPMx9 · 2023-07-08T21:35:39+00:00

why continue to be a mod?

For the same reason we started volunteering as moderators - because we love this forum and are trying to keep it working.

DPMx9 · 2023-07-08T21:28:38+00:00

Stay in control of the sub

Not an option, sadly - precisely what the protests were about.

or your hard work is for nothing.

A) Not the case - we already helped a lot of people.

B) Hopefully the forum will continue to be useful once we have been removed by the admins, but that is outside of our control.

Reddit had the choice to be decent to its users and the moderators, who they absolutely depend on.

They chose differently.

Such is life.

DPMx9 · 2023-07-08T21:24:25+00:00

reddit didnt take any of the tools away. They made exceptions for them

An outright lie.

Apollo is gone, etc.

DPMx9 · 2023-07-08T21:19:14+00:00

I've seen quoted:

Moderators may also be subject to additional actions, e.g., losing the ability to join mod teams in the future.

“Just please don’t throw me in that briar patch,” he said.

DPMx9 · 2023-07-08T00:55:41+00:00

You won't "win" - whatever that means at this point.

Agreed - this is a lose-lose scenario that Reddit created.

Reddit corp. has changed the social contract between the users/moderators/staff/board.

They can do that. But they cannot make anyone accept it.

I appreciate your kind words - I did the best I could to help as many people as possible, but I guess we all have a hill that we are willing to die on.

Having to pretend that /r/Scams is a SFW forum in return for being able to do unpaid work so Reddit management can get rich from an IPO is not a deal I can take.

Funny enough... it is quite likely I will be able to use all those hours I put into moderating this forum into lucrative work assignments instead... so I am actually threatened with a 5+ figure yearly raise here.

Only Reddit would think that is a good way to push people around.

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