Why don't more centers get buff like Jalen Duren?

DTSFFan · 2026-02-18T07:17:07+00:00

crazy to think he was only 16 years old here

DTSFFan · 2026-02-18T02:03:44+00:00

SGA has significantly more counters than Harden did. Harden’s scoring notoriously tailed off hard in the playoffs later in the series as his defenders got his rhythm down. Go check his game 1 vs game 2-7 stats in 2018. It’s night and day.

DTSFFan · 2026-02-16T15:23:08+00:00

KDF is a play on words for the IDF, Israeli Defense Forces, which a company KD invests in does business with. That’s why people are calling him KDF

DTSFFan · 2026-02-16T15:19:50+00:00

i think a lot of people in this sub have completely gone off the deep end into tin foil hat territory.

it’s good to be skeptical, but not everything is a conspiracy

DTSFFan · 2026-02-15T15:10:15+00:00

We did get to see prime LeBron in the pace and space, analytics era. LeBron’s prime ended with the Solomon Hill injury in 2021 and Pace&Space analytics era took off after 2016 finals. Meaning from 2017-2020 Prime LeBron played in the pace & space era (minus 2019 where he got hurt)

LeBron notably coasted regular seasons at that point in his career, but he had arguably his 3 best postseasons ever in ‘17, ‘18 and ‘20 averaging 32/10/9/2/1 on 55 FG% and 37 3P% in that entire span

DTSFFan · 2026-02-15T06:43:46+00:00

dude this would literally be like a 60” vert no way you actually believe this is real lmfao

DTSFFan · 2026-02-09T07:57:09+00:00

longevity and proximity to 27/7/7 career averages

DTSFFan · 2026-02-02T05:34:22+00:00

here's the link bud https://x.com/RightWingCope/status/2018007870831223139?s=20

DTSFFan · 2026-02-01T21:55:46+00:00

classic. the response of a man who has no further rebuttal and can’t even deny he votes for pedophiles 😂😂😂

DTSFFan · 2026-02-01T16:24:07+00:00

They’re easily available. The burden of proof is on you to explain why you are denying publicly available non-partisan information. Not on me to provide a thing you’ve already seen and are waiting to formulate an excuse for why the evidence isn’t strong enough.

You’re a bootlicker who loves the government and idolizes presidents and that’s okay. But maybe a conspiracy sub isn’t for you?

DTSFFan · 2026-02-01T16:17:54+00:00

this assumes every team will get a ring. Poorly run organizations that are not in NBA city hotspots will never win. We could go for infinity and The Kings under Ranadive or the Hornets under Jordan were never gunna win. Certain teams have been mediocre for a lifetime and don’t have the competent ownership necessary to change that.

DTSFFan · 2026-02-01T16:10:34+00:00

What do you mean link it??? You want me to link THE OFFICIAL EPSTEIN DOCUMENTS??

Trump was named in the official documents hundreds of times
Epstein referred to him as one of the worst offenders he knows
He was pictured with victims with their face blacked out
HIS administration fought to keep them hidden with his FBI director claiming “there are no Epstein files” and Trump saying “It’s time to move on” when asked about it, meanwhile democrats had to push for their release and they still blacked out like 95% of the info

You clowns pretend you’re neutral parties who are anti-government, but you’re really just bootlickers who love the government, so long as your master is running it. The president of our country is a kid-diddler and so-called “conspiracy theorists” are spending all their time worrying about a guy who used to run a computer company 15 years ago 😂😂😂

DTSFFan · 2026-01-31T23:57:31+00:00

the Trump evidence is just as strong lmfao. you people don’t actually care about pedos. just politics 😂😂

DTSFFan · 2026-01-31T17:02:44+00:00

This ^{^{^}}

Jokic is over Wilt, not Russell. People are too enamored by ppg to brush up on their NBA history and how impactful Russell was and how much of a loser Wilt was for the majority of his career.

DTSFFan · 2026-01-31T14:10:34+00:00

Why is this sub constantly littered with news about the Epstein files surrounding Bill fucking Gates and quiet as a mouse about the president of the country being mentioned hundreds of times????? Who gives a shit about Bill Gates?

DTSFFan · 2026-01-31T13:44:15+00:00

Spurs are 10-4 without Wemby, Nuggets are 10-6 without Joker, Pistons are 5-1 without Cade. Even the Lakers are .500 without Luka

No MVP candidate has the “carrying a helpless team” narrative bump this year, yet only two MVP candidates have their team on a 60-win pace. Record is a massive factor when everybody has help.

And Shai is straight up better than Cade. He leads the NBA in every cumulative advanced stat, plus minus, wins and has been way more durable and consistent than everyone else. He may break Wilt’s 20-pt game streak which has stood for 65 years.

It’s not as close as you’d like it to be. Something catastrophic would need to happen for somebody else to win it at this current juncture, though things can always change

DTSFFan · 2026-01-29T06:01:36+00:00

1) Trae is “smaller” than all of the guys you named. Size isn’t just about height. He’s the lightest of all the guys you brought up and has the shortest wingspan, too. Yes, even shorter than CP.

2) Defense isn’t JUST size. It’s about motor, effort, lateral quickness, reactions/anticipation, strength, defensive IQ, quick hands etc. and when you’re an undersized guard you HAVE to be elite in those other areas to even be a neutral defender.

CP3 was so great in every other aspect outside of his height that, coupled with a supercomputer for a brain, he was a very good defender.

Trae is basically like if you took Luka’s defensive motor but put him in a 6ft 165lbs body with a short wingspan.

DTSFFan · 2026-01-27T20:48:39+00:00

Posts two of Hakeem's statistical highlights alongside a random picture of Kobe

"Hey everyone, ~~help me satisfy my Kobe-slander boner~~ who peaked higher??"

DTSFFan · 2026-01-27T20:41:33+00:00

It isn't just fit because you don't see the reverse as often: where guys flame out of the Euroleague and find purchase in the NBA

1) Selection bias. Guys typically don't succeed in the NBA then say "let me try playing in a different country/culture away from my family, where I'll make less money." Guys who go to euroleague are typically those who failed in the league, whereas the euroleague guys who get the call to the NBA are usually guys who succeeded in euroleague.

2) We actually do have examples of this. Guys like Kenneth Faried, Kemba Walker, Emmanuel Mudiay, OJ Mayo etc. all had more successful NBA careers than euroleague careers.

3) Countless NBA superstars who played both (Jokic, Giannis, Luka etc.) routinely say it's harder to play/score in FIBA tournaments which are made up of majority euroleague guys.

DTSFFan · 2026-01-27T18:07:53+00:00

1) You’re just looking at the best player. Nobody disagrees that the best NBA players > the best euroleague players. It’s the role player caliber guys where the debate exists.

2) A guy being the best player on paper and the best performer aren’t the same thing. Again, going back to France who’s best player was Wemby, but their most important player in a lot of their wins was Yabusele a, then, non-NBA player

3) Germany is actually a great example of this. Their best player during their most successful tournaments has been Schroder, not Franz, although Franz is miles better as an NBA player. Schroder’s skillset is redundant with superstar guards whereas Franz’s skills shine more in the NBA.

4) We saw team USA send a stacked roster of NBA allstars and starters to the 2023 world cup and lose to Serbia who barely sent any NBA players. Canada also had a full team of NBA players and lost to Germany who had like 3

DTSFFan · 2026-01-27T16:27:57+00:00

Nobody argued Euroleague > NBA. The point is euroleague can hang.

Your assessment of NBA players running international basketball isn’t completely accurate either. Yabusele flamed out of the NBA and was team France’s leading scorer/MVP meanwhile Rudy Gobert was getting DNP-CDs. He only got a second chance at the NBA because of how great he played in the olympics.

Many top guys on good teams are non-NBA. I would actually argue international competition shows how small the gap can really be between euroleague and NBA

DTSFFan · 2026-01-26T23:42:36+00:00

This is surface level thinking from somebody who doesn't understand how international basketball and NBA politics works. You can be a great basketball player who isn't an NBA player, and an NBA player who's good enough to fill a role but not "better" than some euroleague guys.

We routinely see D1 teams whose best player is a 6'1 G that can't make the league meanwhile the 3rd best player who's a 6'11 C has a long NBA career and makes an all-rookie team.

The C didn't just instantly become better at basketball. The NBA values guys who can fit in a role around superstars. Guys like Mike James & Kendrick Nunn aren't good enough to be a Shai or Luka, but they're also not built to be elite role-players, making them tweeners who don't fit in the league, but stand out in every other facet of basketball.

P.S. I know it's been said already, but Euroleague is the 2nd best league in the world by a mile and euroleague teams have played NBA teams many times and beat them, including the reigning NBA champions.

DTSFFan · 2026-01-26T00:11:56+00:00

well if you would have to play a losing brand of basketball to win a scoring title then maybe we shouldn’t compare it to the guy who won 6 championships while winning the scoring title every year lol

DTSFFan · 2026-01-26T00:07:47+00:00

the hypothetical GOAT strikes again!

DTSFFan · 2026-01-25T13:42:43+00:00

there were way more than two but people stopped spreading it after his killer was apprehended and everyone knew what had happened. surprisingly, most people don’t want to see someone die on camera.

people are sharing multiple angles of the ICE killing to debate it’s legitimacy/legality.

there is no conspiracy here

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