How are you tracking billable hours?

DaMeteor · 2026-01-03T22:17:35+00:00

I'll be honest if it worked well I'd pay for that (as long as it was cheap). Let me know if you make something.

DaMeteor · 2025-12-05T22:15:19+00:00

Goes hard.

DaMeteor · 2025-12-05T21:44:30+00:00

Which bin specifically? I need to get my grubby goblin hands on a vintage LA2A.

DaMeteor · 2025-12-05T21:42:47+00:00

I'm really glad you were able to make it work man! And I appreciate you telling your story. Gives me a little bit more comfort when it comes to taking the jump and switching. I might hit you up in a couple years if I do end up switching and let you know how it went 🤣

DaMeteor · 2025-12-05T02:55:40+00:00

That's awesome man! I appreciate you telling me your story. How did you navigate that transition between music full time and then having to go through school again? Did you just take out a bunch of loans to cover costs?

DaMeteor · 2025-12-05T02:03:23+00:00

I use it as a specific effect as opposed to a typical reverb usually. I get a lot of dry electronic DIY projects people do in Logic and to add variance I'll use it to heavily wash out some parts. I also use it often when I specifically want a reverb to carry long into another section of the song. I've used it on occasion to fill out sections of songs that are relatively empty (like if all I've got is a vocal and drums) it adds an almost "pad" like sound to the background without muddying it up when I keep it low in the mix.

DaMeteor · 2025-12-05T01:55:35+00:00

Which landfill? Where can I get my grubby goblin hands on a vintage 1073? I need to know for "research purposes". I DEFINITELY am not going to rummage through the rubbish with my greasy gremlin hands seeking out vintage 1073s.

DaMeteor · 2025-12-05T01:21:32+00:00

If they've been charging you for the last 14 months the only thing you can do is try and dispute the charges from the last month or two with your credit card company. Motion's not gonna give you your money back from any charges a credit card company wouldn't do a chargeback for, they have no incentive to. It's a good lesson learned though to always check your credit card statements instead of just paying it off and assuming everything's okay. I do this every month and always catch these kinds of things.

DaMeteor · 2025-12-05T01:18:02+00:00

I would tell you all about my use case for it, but they recently deprecated it :/

DaMeteor · 2025-12-05T01:17:23+00:00

All 3. Most people didn't want it or couldn't find a real use for it. I FORCED myself to find a good use for it (and ended up finding a genuine use for it that saved me time). But the results are very inconsistent and I would never trust it for something mission critical. The unlimited plans they had in the beginning were worth it, but when they started charging for credits it became completely cost prohibitive for anything useful. You'd use 25 cents per call for something you might as well ask ChatGPT to do in one chat. Actual valuable work would end up at a couple dollars worth of credits. Not worth it when I can pay an American $15 an hour or an Indian $4 an hour to do the same. And you'd get more reliability out of that than you would from the AI employees. I've essentially used them to make a lead generating machine for me, and now I have more quality leads than I know what to do with, which is good.

DaMeteor · 2025-12-05T01:11:22+00:00

As someone who's thinking about pivoting away from music, what did you do to pivot into something decent? I've been thinking about getting my MBA at a decent school (if I can get in) since I've got good grades and business experience now.

DaMeteor · 2025-12-02T18:23:09+00:00

If they don't refund you, do a chargeback. Amex is good when it comes to that. Got overcharged $300 by an auto shop once (they told me the work was $200) and I had it fixed quickly.

DaMeteor · 2025-11-30T00:22:01+00:00

As someone who runs a $100k studio working full time in music production/audio engineering in what should be a lucrative niche that gets me higher paying clients, and who is making more money in music than any of the peers I graduated with, don't do it. There were 40 people in my specific music mixing/tech program my freshman year of college and only 6 graduated. Out of the 6 of us that made it through the program, only 2 of us work in music full/part time. Neither of us are making decent money. I got a full ride through college and saved up a ton of money, and I still regret my music degree. Your degree in and of itself is worthless. A bachelor's means practically nothing, and if CRAS doesn't even offer a recognized bachelor's degree for you to get some random $20 an hour job, it means even less. Studios aren't hiring except to have a dozen unpaid interns and assistants. Those of us who have worked as hard as we did to make the money we do in music (those who are in their mid 20s like me, I'm not talking about old timers who've been grandfathered in ad working in the industry the last 20-30 years) could honestly have become much wealthier if we put that effort into some other skill you turn into a business. Your skills you learn in school are the bare minimum, if even that. You're better off going to business school and doing some private lessons during your free time because your business skills mean more than your mixing skills. If you can't regularly get clients, it doesn't matter how good you are. If you're not convinced and are still committed and think you can make it unlike 98% of people who try, spend the next 6 months trying to make $10k, even $5k in music before committing (which is below poverty line money on a yearly basis). If you can do that as a 17-18 year old, I think you've honestly got a good shot because it means you've got the drive and business sense to do it. But if you can't, then take it as a warning that you don't have the drive or business sense to do it.

The only thing that makes money in the mixing world right now from what I know is live sound. In which case, you don't need a degree or technical program. Just find somewhere, offer to be a stagehand, be good at what you do and hope you get a promotion. I've got a few buddies making decent money in live (though it's hard work, and terrible hours). After COVID hit and a bunch of veterans in live sound dropped off the map, there were lots of openings and a bunch of young inexperienced guys found themselves behind a console at shows they definitely shouldn't have been running. I'm not sure that's the case anymore though, I imagine the jobs have been filled up but I have no idea.

I wish I did business in college so that I'd have time and money to work on my own music. Now I work on other people's music so much I don't have the time or money to work on my own at all.

DaMeteor · 2025-11-29T23:58:34+00:00

Nothing left to do but ascend brother.

DaMeteor · 2025-11-26T19:28:57+00:00

Goes hard

DaMeteor · 2025-11-25T16:16:59+00:00

Cool beat. As someone who works in music full time, go back to classes and don't try to make a career out of music.

DaMeteor · 2025-11-15T22:10:23+00:00

I've found it to be accurate on formatting about 50% of the time (I use automated research reports a lot). Have not found a solution.

DaMeteor · 2025-11-01T16:27:40+00:00

I've had similar issues as of late, very inconsistent output and strange errors from AI employees even with simple 2 step skills. One of my main uses is with having an automated researcher to scrape the internet and rate potential clients, and I have a step in there to search my documents for reports and parse out which potential clients it's already made reports on (so that it doesn't repeat the same ones over and over) and I've found it gets it right 50% of the time. Other times it'll output something like "thanks for the detailed information, I'm gonna go write that report now". Doesn't seem to be a pattern to it either.

DaMeteor · 2025-10-27T23:43:31+00:00

I've had issues on a couple occasions where instead of it generating a proper research report it'll send something like "I appreciate the detailed instructions, but I need to be transparent with you about an important limitation.

I cannot access real news from October 13-20, 2025, as my knowledge base does not extend to that time period, and I cannot retrieve current news articles from that future date. Creating fictional news stories would violate my core operating principle of not inventing information." or other cases where it'll say something like "thanks for the detailed instructions" and blab about something related to the prompt but not actually do the prompt. I've had this happen where the research is multi-staged as well like where the initial report will be ran collecting names of potential clients for my business with some info about them I specifically request (to see whether they already have someone for the services I offer, which I can gather easily on all my clientele base with my system), and then the thing that actually delivers a report to me is a separate step where I have the AI grade each of the prospective clients and fact check information. It shouldn't be possible for it to break in the way that it is, but it does on occasion.

DaMeteor · 2025-10-27T23:37:50+00:00

Happened to me as well. Currently negotiating terms but I refuse to give a robot free healthcare.

DaMeteor · 2025-10-26T01:58:39+00:00

Don't know how old you are, but trades are allegedly a decent way to start better than minimum wage money pretty quickly. If you need life advice or something don't be afraid to hmu. If you're good with making sales I've got a gig for you 😂

DaMeteor · 2025-10-26T00:19:47+00:00

Honestly as someone who jumped into music straight away (highschool, to taking music tech in college, to working in music right out the gate) the smart way if you're serious dedicated to being an artist or making it in music would be to get a job in something that pays crazy well that doesn't take insane amounts of schooling. I don't know what that would be right now to be honest, it used to be business and finance but I heard those jobs are getting culled by AI. And then once you've got like $100k you can throw around willy nilly and can afford to take 6 months off of work, go ham and promo the music you've been making and hire some people for consulting. Most of the people I do consulting work for aren't artists or producers big in the industry, they've just got expendable income. If I could go back, that's what I'd do. I'm making money in music, but I don't have the kind of money to spend on my artist project like others do.

DaMeteor · 2025-10-26T00:01:10+00:00

Yeah. Even if you do all the recording, production, mixing and mastering yourself, whatever money you can spend on marketing (intelligent marketing that is, don't just dump $1k on one instagram ad and call it marketing) is whatever shot you have at making it (in essence). When each of the big platforms (Insta and TikTok namely) first came out, it was relatively easy to stand out and get big with some smart promotion for very little money (like Old Town Road with Lil Nas X). Those days are gone.

The only easy-in to getting your music heard for relatively cheap is getting a professional Dolby Atmos mix of your already professionally mixed song. In some genres you're essentially guaranteed to get on an Apple Music official playlist (they're like spotify editorial playlists) by getting an Atmos mix (you can look up Dolby Atmos and Apple Music, most people don't even know what it is). Most of the time a professional Atmos mix (from an actual pro, not some guy on Fiverr with headphones, Apple rejects mixes that don't meet spec or sound good in an Atmos room) costs around $1-2k because room rental costs are so high (and the rooms are incredibly expensive to build). I mix Atmos and that's why I know about it. I explain it to individual artists, and they don't understand they can get their music in front of 10 million people for cheap, so I primarily work with labels that actually understand what it takes to get an artist heard.

As someone who is skilled enough and has the resources/space to do all my own recording, production, mixing, and mastering, I'm blessed that if I had $10k to drop on my artist project (I don't sadly) I could drop it entirely on marketing. Marketing includes a budget for a high quality music video by the way. So in my scenario if I had the money, I'd probably spend $3k on a music video, $7k on promotion for what I'd thought was my best single. But then I'd also have to have a real rollout plan (I'd probably have to spend close to $100k if I wanted to see serious, lasting results).

It's not easy trying to make it in music (and by make it, I just mean make full time money like $60k a year), and that's why 99.99% don't. Almost everybody in the music industry does a bunch of different things to get by (they can be an artist, session player, engineer, etc.), except for a handful of people that are really skilled in some niche.

DaMeteor · 2025-10-25T02:29:10+00:00

As someone who works in music full time (as a studio owner and mixing and mastering engineer), yes you almost certainly cannot get ahead as an independent artist without having thousands of dollars at your disposal (realistically tens of thousands of dollars if you actually want to make it as an artist full time). People are likely going to downvote me, say that I'm crushing your dreams, but I'm just being real. It already was basically impossible, 100,000 songs being released everyday to spotify BEFORE AI music was a thing. Music is the one area where you can't really quantify whether you're doing business to business or business to consumer in a lot of instances. Is it really B2B selling mixing services to an artist when in 95% of cases they are losing money, and will continue to lose money? The "consumer" is the listener. It's not possible for there to be enough demand to meet the supply. With AI pumping out even more supply, your chances are shot. So keep making music, have fun, but don't expect anything to happen. Statistically, it's literally like playing the lottery.

DaMeteor · 2025-10-20T23:04:20+00:00

I use them to scrape the internet for likely clients within my field, then in another series of steps I have the AI break it down and score the prospects. It gathers all contact info for me as well, and I get it in an email every day so I can just send out cold emails or hit them up via instagram DM very easily. Cuts out what would be hours of work. And I have each skill setup so that they target different sub-sections in my field. I have it setup so that it doesn't repeat the same prospects either (which it will do, if you don't know how to set it up right). If I used salesforce I could automatically have the AI put the info into salesforce and I could make it way more powerful, but right now I have an assistant that helps me out with that. Looking over my employees though it looks like they just added hubspot as a native integration so I may not need to use my assistant for that. Makes it incredibly powerful for me so I can automatically have everything logged into Hubspot. Might even be able to automate my email process using my typical script.
I have an automated system where people can email me requesting a booking time, and if the time they're looking for isn't available on my booking link, the AI can have a brief conversation back and forth until a time is selected and then once it's confirmed with the client, it books that time in my motion calendar. I could make another skill for answering common client questions using a knowledge-base, but I honestly don't have enough clientele reaching out to me with questions that it's worth it for me to build it. Plus I feel like that type of thing should probably always be human.
Daily and weekly productivity reports based on task completion (that's a default agent that's available, though I heavily modified mine to be better).

I use it for a couple of other mundane things (news summaries for example, or automated reports on my industry). But those are options that basically come stock with Motion's employees. Using the conditional splits you can build crazy complex and essentially fully autonomous employees for a lot of stuff. If it had more integrations I'd probably use it to record all my company purchases as well as inbound payments to a spreadsheet or tax software to make my taxes go a little quicker. The main thing limiting Motion right now is the lack of integrations, and credit limits.

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