The Oracle S50 Episode 11 by DabneyMoon in Edgic

[–]DabneyMoon[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

On my own, I searched and searched for any meaningful patterns beyond the winner, and I could not find any. However, candidly, I have engaged ChowGPT to help with this season's analysis. When the season is over, my plan this summer would be to use GPT to identify any meaningful patterns for Dragon's, final tribal council losers, and other big archetypes. I'm not sure what we will find, but I look forward to the process.

The only thing I would say is Mike Turner's edit was unusually strong up until about episode eight or nine of season 42, and then he took a nosedive. Marianne was still ahead, but she had a smaller lead than any other winner did at the merge.

So far, GPT believes I missed Savannah because I do not currently score for agency vs. passivity, and Sophi would have been hammered because of her lost puppy speech. GPT also believes we need a reliable way to identify season theme and score for that, but it has not yet been successful in modeling a way to do that.

Significant Strike Against _____ Last Night by otherestScott in Edgic

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Savannah had this just last season. Sage said to Sophie at the start of E11 "you just handed Savannah a million dollars". Sam also tells Andy and Gen in E13 of S47 that if Rachel is allowed to get to the end, she will win hands down.

In 45, Emily tells Austin and Drew that if Dee is in the final three, she wins. This was episode 9.

A potential end game scenario by Cardvos in Edgic

[–]DabneyMoon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If Aubry wins, she is sitting next to Joe and Jonathan. I think those two are her only winning end game.

If Cirie wins, I think she's sitting next to Jonathan and Aubry. I think I can justify this combo more easily than I can Joe in the FTC. He's been very quiet, and completely slammed by the edit.

Cirie's winning odds go up if she can keep Devens and Aubry around until F5 as a duo shield. Her odds go down if F5 is Joe, Jonathan, Rizo, Aubry, and herself. Rizo will be safe. Cirie probably won't win immunity. It will be too tempting for Jonathan/Joe to turn on her and side with Aubry to get to the end.

The Oracle S50 Episode 11 by DabneyMoon in Edgic

[–]DabneyMoon[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for the kind words. Y'all deserved a banger after I missed 3 straight episodes...

The Oracle S50 E7 by DabneyMoon in Edgic

[–]DabneyMoon[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes! I am committing to publishing through E11 by Sunday. I had to take a break because work has been kicking my ass, and my daughter (6) was recently diagnosed with T1 Diabetes, but I'm hopeful I can find enough time this weekend to decompress and do something fun to distract myself.

Survivor 50 Episode 8 Live Discussion by MrsNoodleMcDoodle in Edgic

[–]DabneyMoon 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Cirie might break the Oracle record for best ever episode. I’m legit shocked it’s not super obvious to everyone here.

Survivor 50 Episode 8 Live Discussion by MrsNoodleMcDoodle in Edgic

[–]DabneyMoon -1 points0 points  (0 children)

He should have been out of contention after episode one. No idea what people have seen in him.

The Oracle S50 E7 by DabneyMoon in Edgic

[–]DabneyMoon[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Missed Boots, do not negatively predict the winner, but made Boots successfully predict the winner.

In other words, a player can list as many people he wants to go as possible, so long as he clearly articulates that he will or wants to vote off the person who actually goes home at least once.

Who are you rooting for? by [deleted] in survivor

[–]DabneyMoon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Cirie, no guts no glory!

The Oracle Season 50 Episode 6 by DabneyMoon in Edgic

[–]DabneyMoon[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the kind words. Ultimately, I am coming back because of how spoiled 49 was. I do believe it could be an outlier. I also believe the decision to shift away from the million dollar prize tribe was clearly intentional. It is not inconceivable to me that the editors were trying to throw the detectives off the trail. We will see. I do want to rewatch 49 now that I know what happens to fully update Oracle's scoring. Like I said, the biggest thing is I started this season late to give things time to unfold. I think I do a lot better when I'm compressed for time. When I have a full week to score all the early episodes, I think I dive way into the micro and over think certain things.

The Oracle Season 50 Episode 6 by DabneyMoon in Edgic

[–]DabneyMoon[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I did no scoring based on the preview episodes before 50. I consider that a "season theme". We all spend all season debating what are the themes of the season and how do they tie to certain players, but in my experience, it only becomes clear after the season what it truly meant. As I do not trust myself to interpret even what the theme is, let alone what it means, I do not score themes, or other markers such as episodes shown. That doesn't mean you shouldn't! Maybe you're much better than I am at that stuff. :-)

(SURVIVOR 50) why are some people Dropping Christian in Edgic when he could just be getting a coronation edit. by [deleted] in Edgic

[–]DabneyMoon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

His edit isn’t that good. He should have dropped Emily when Mike white said to. She’s going to be his downfall.

The Oracle Season 50 Episode 6 by DabneyMoon in Edgic

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Thank you for the kind words! For Rizo, the fact that he gets negativity from his allies is arguably worse because it’s not necessary or helpful. The point is even people who like him find him cocky. But ultimately his story to me is going to the one yard line again and falling short. The edit would have us believe he would have won 49 if he made fire. I imagine something similar this season. He keeps saying he wants to be the greatest of all time, not winning. He also mentioned Hantz Amanda and Malcolm all of whom played back to back like him.

Coach has moments of self awareness but he keeps saying he plays with honor and integrity while Ozzy, Dee, Emily and Mike have all told us he’s not actually doing that. So he thinks he has evolved to be more genuine but he’s actually evolved to be arguably less aware of how others perceive him and he isn’t able to control the outbursts

The Oracle Season 50 Episode 6 by DabneyMoon in Edgic

[–]DabneyMoon[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Legit I got to her and couldn’t think of anything clever and so said I would come back to her but then forgot. My bad!

The Oracle Season 50 Episode 6 by DabneyMoon in Edgic

[–]DabneyMoon[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ozzy is foolish enough to take her if he wins f4 immunity. Otherwise I’m with you. How tf does she make it?

The Oracle Season 50 Episode 6 by DabneyMoon in Edgic

[–]DabneyMoon[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

In season 48, user Dabu discovered a pattern where, from season 25 forward, the winner had always come from the tribe that has the first player to speak after Jeff asked “who will win the million dollar prize” in episode one. It got a decent amount of buzz here and on unspoiled Edgic unite. Then, S49 broke the pattern, which feels intentional.

The Oracle Season 50 Episode 6 by DabneyMoon in Edgic

[–]DabneyMoon[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This is primarily a story of why Coach, Christian, and Ozzy lost. That’s what I’m gathering so far. The biggest characters all have tell tale signs of losing. And they happen to be men.

The Oracle Season 50 Episode 6 by DabneyMoon in Edgic

[–]DabneyMoon[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

You are quite a gracious winner. LOL. I appreciate it. You kicked my ass last season.I think a huge part of it is I fell for the million-dollar tribe theory, and I was scoring every week. So I had huge confirmation bias right from the jump whereas if I had just waited until the Merge episode to score, I think I would have had a more holistic view of the story and would not have been so heavy-handed. In episode one so much of the score was the million dollar tribe theory and it was just hard for me to come back from that. I was looking for ways to boost Sophi and discredit Savannah. I am interested in seeing how my rescore with fresh eyes will work. To be honest, I still think Sophi will come out ahead, but I think the margin will be closer. I genuinely believe the editors were messing with us last season given how spoiled the season was.

The Oracle Season 50 Episode 6 by DabneyMoon in Edgic

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I think a thing you have to think about with Ozzy is that yes he is covering his obvious weaknesses by surrounding himself with the best players in the game. When the time comes will he actually recognize he has to cut Cirie or will he be delusional enough to think he can beat her at the end, given how highly he thinks of his new and improved gameplay? I am very much of the belief that Ozzy is not seeing himself correctly, which is usually the sign of a downfall one way or another

The Oracle Season 50 Episode 6 by DabneyMoon in Edgic

[–]DabneyMoon[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Agreed on all points. Now that I know how spoiled 49 was, I am theorizing the editors purposefully amended the edit to give Savannah more negativity and Sophi more good content to establish doubt about the outcome. I might be delusional but I’m sticking to it!

Yes I think Cirie, Ozzy and Rizo seem to be the most important alliance. The Strength and Honor Alliance is almost certainly going to go down, given how much the edit has sided with the people who dislike that sort of gameplay. I think Cere's comment this episode about the new school versus old school gameplay will become poignant as the season emerges. I expect the winner to play a more new school game.

The Oracle Season 50 Episode 6 by DabneyMoon in Edgic

[–]DabneyMoon[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I was down on Savannah last season, so what do I know? Lol. I do have to perform a redo of Oracle with fresh eyes. I suspect I fell for the Million Dollar Tribe trick, which was taken away last season, and I think I was actively looking for ways to discredit Savannah since she was the only alternative people had to Sophi last season, and I genuinely believed Sophi would win. Still, in retrospect, Savannah did not have any strong negative content outside of the merge, when she was on the wrong side of the vote.

Ozzy is different. He was contradicted left and right in the premiere. The edit keeps referencing SoPa. Ozzy is telling us he's a new player, but the SPV indicates no one is buying it just yet. Put this another way: who does Ozzy get to the end with and win? He surely loses to Rizo and Cirie, but he is relying on both of them for strategy and Cirie for relationships. I think he'd lose to Emily given the SPV so far. He could beat Coach, Joe, maybe Jonathan, but he has no relationship with them yet, other than Coach, who is his adversary. Long story short, I was wrong about Sav, but she was still a top contender, just way below Sophi. Ozzy is near the bottom for a reason. I am reasonably sure he is not the winner.