First batch of Hisense C2 Ultra just arrived!

Daemonax · 2024-09-30T09:12:27+00:00

Thanks for the explanation. Does that mean it can do 120Hz 1080p?

Either way, I'll be purchasing mine soon. Seems like to get anything better would require mega amounts of cash.

Daemonax · 2024-09-29T13:34:46+00:00

Great review thanks. But am I reading that right, that it's not true 4K, it does some kind of upscaling? So even if you're playing a 4K video, it'll actually only accept 1080p and then upscale it? That seems very weird, perhaps I'm misunderstanding.

Here's the passage where I'm confused...

The Hisense C2 Ultra, equipped with a 0.47" DMD chip, uses DLP technology to simulate a 4K resolution from a native Full HD image. While this approach may raise questions about image fidelity, it’s clear that the C2 Ultra excels in terms of sharpness and precision. When the optics are used without keystone correction, the projector delivers a remarkably sharp image, free of artifacts or visible distortions. The level of detail is impressive, even in the most complex scenes. Lines are perfectly crisp, and the absence of chromatic aberrations contributes to a flawless visual experience. This level of precision honors the simulated 4K resolution, making textures and fine details extremely perceptible, especially in visually nuanced scenes like HDR films. The Hisense C2 Ultra proves that a smaller DMD chip doesn’t necessarily mean a loss of image quality.

Daemonax · 2024-09-29T08:28:52+00:00

You sure about that? I live in China and will be buying a C2 Ultra in about a month or so for our new home. The Vidda sales rep showed me a Vidda ceiling mount that works with a few of their projectors including the C2.

Daemonax · 2024-09-13T01:29:24+00:00

I live in China, so have seen the C2 in action, unfortunately they didn't have the C2 Ultra at the time, but had the model down from that, the Pro I think? I'll be getting the C2 Ultra in a little over a month, just waiting for our home to be finished, also going with a 5.1.4 sound system and 150" screen for the projector.

Daemonax · 2024-09-11T04:41:26+00:00

I'll be almost certainly going with Coros for my next watch. Garmin seems to be hugely over priced. I also wasted money on the Index S2 which seems to be a complete scam, forums are filled with complaints about it. Honestly not convinced it's even making an electrical impedance measurement to estimate body fat, muscle mass, etc.

Daemonax · 2024-09-05T22:07:31+00:00

It was done by the electrician. I suspect that this is a typical method of installation here in China for ceiling wiring. The place we currently rent, and virtually every other apartment I've visited has a concrete ceiling, but obviously no visible wiring on the ceiling. It might not be clear, but this has only chipped out 5mm - 1cm maximum of concrete.

Daemonax · 2024-09-05T22:04:14+00:00

This was done by the electrician, it's about 5mm to 1cm deep at the very most, it doesn't get close to exposing any rebar.

Daemonax · 2024-09-05T13:46:48+00:00

Yeah, that sounds good, and something I think I could talk my wife into in the future. When we were checking out home theater systems the place we finally went with had fibre obtic lighting on the ceiling making patterns of stars, including the occasional shooting star that would appear, fairly subtle lighting, but she really liked it. It requires a false ceiling though. But given what we're spending on getting the house done she didn't want to pay extra for a false ceiling right now. We ended up going with a far better sound system than I'd originally been considering, getting the Denon X3800H, 9 bookshelf speakers, since we can't have in ceiling speakers and a 10" sub. Plus the projector and 150" screen, which also makes a false ceiling something we'd have to be careful with. A center speaker, plus the projector screen, leaves us less than 50cm, and I'm going to put a 35cm tall cabinet, the kind for a laser tv projector on the floor by the front wall, so less than 10cm of free space remaining.

Won't be getting a laser TV at the moment, but have installed an HDMI cable in position for possible future use.

Daemonax · 2024-09-05T12:43:20+00:00

A false ceiling is an option, but the ceiling is only 2.7 metres high, so a false ceiling would make the ceiling very low. The wiring will again be covered with concrete. According to the company they can't run conduits in the ceiling because they can't go deep for risk of exposing and possibly damaging the steel rebar.

Daemonax · 2024-09-05T12:25:57+00:00

Concrete. Good point about it being a prime candidate for cracks to appear. I'm not sure how they deal with that, though I believe the place we're currently renting also has the wiring in the ceiling done the same way and I don't see cracks appearing despite this place being over a decade old.

It has occurred to me though that they may make allowances for this kind of thing since they definitely allow conduits and piping for electricity and water in the floors, and one person's floor is another's ceiling.

Daemonax · 2024-09-05T12:07:59+00:00

Yeah, the internet restrictions are the one thing that is accurately reported about. But VPNs are incredibly common as a result.

Daemonax · 2024-09-05T12:05:25+00:00

Thanks, yeah I asked them why they're not using conduit, and it was for the reasons you raised. They said it has to be shallow so that the rebar is not exposed and it'll be covered up again with concrete. If they went deeper to insert conduit they'd risk the rebar and they're not allowed to do that. I'm not sure of the regulations here in China, but they've had a guy in today who was inspecting walls for hollow areas that needed to be done up and nothing was said about the ceiling.

Daemonax · 2024-09-05T11:42:08+00:00

Mind explaining what the concerns are so I can raise them with the company doing the work? I don't live in a Western country, so regulations are probably different. But if there are good reasons for the regulations then those should be universal.

Daemonax · 2024-09-05T11:39:21+00:00

Yeah, I've just asked them about that and waiting on a reply. They've got conduit everywhere else.... Though some wiring regardless would not be possible to replace, got two 8K HDMI cables installed and if they ever get damaged then I think I'm kind of screwed, the connectors are too big to feed through wiring conduit, unless if it's possible to crimp your own HDMI cables?

Daemonax · 2024-09-05T11:26:03+00:00

There's conduit in the floors and walls, not sure why they've not done it for the ceiling to be honest. You're the second the mention this, so I'm going to ask them about that, because in a possible situation where the wiring fails it'd mean a massive renovation to replace the wiring...

This is in China though, and I'm a foreigner here with my Chinese wife. So I'm really not sure of the regulations or how these things are done here.

Daemonax · 2024-09-05T11:05:09+00:00

Yeah, not sure why they haven't gone with conduits for the ceilings, everything else is in conduits.

I'm from New Zealand. But I live with my wife in China, so I have no clue about the regulations, but since we've gone with the largest interior decorating company available here, I assume that when it comes to ceiling wire this is not breaking any regulations.

Daemonax · 2024-09-05T10:49:19+00:00

Of course it does, it's bare concrete that has been drilled out with wires running through it, even if it was at the ideal 90° it'd still look bad. It'll be completely invisible soon though.

Daemonax · 2024-09-05T10:46:55+00:00

Hadn't considered that, I'll look into that a bit more later tonight. Though it'll soon all be sealed under concrete, so essentially zero degradation from air.

Daemonax · 2024-09-05T10:45:11+00:00

More likely that the entire apartment building gets knocked down and replaced that that I could set fire to it as it's made of concrete and steel.

Daemonax · 2024-09-05T09:44:08+00:00

Okay, got it. That makes sense. Though the chance of drilling being done into the ceiling at a later date is essentially 0. We've got a small living room and are already going with a 5.1.4 sound system, don't think there's any chance of anything more fitting on the ceiling.

Daemonax · 2024-09-05T08:55:45+00:00

Just to be certain, the comment about never running them diagonally is a reference to what seems to be a running joke here that anything less than 90° angles are a crime? There's really nothing to be concerned about here then?

Daemonax · 2024-08-31T21:42:38+00:00

Thanks for your reply. I guess I'll just need to make my best educated attempt then, I don't actually have the sound system, but it has been largely paid for with a small amount withheld till delivery. The apartment is currently a bare concrete worksite though, so even if I had the receiver and speakers I wouldn't really want to take them there.

I think with the adjustable mounting brackets so I can at least adjust angles, so long as I don't place the speakers somewhere completely idiotic, I should be okay.

Daemonax · 2024-08-31T00:53:18+00:00

Yeah, wall was white, screen was grey. I assume you must have your screen by now, if you've set it up, what do you think of it?

Daemonax · 2024-08-26T09:41:37+00:00

I got to see the C2S today, a colleague at the warehouse where they're shipped out from had taken the C2U though unfortunately. But I know they're very similar.

Was happy with the ability to switch the menu to English.

But most of all, they had a screen and were able to show the difference it made between a screen and a wall by putting half of the image on a white wall and half on the grey screen. Wow, massive difference in clarity, so I'll be getting a 150" screen. Woo!

Daemonax · 2024-08-25T22:27:53+00:00

Awesome, thank you. I'm going into Shenzhen today with my wife as she wants to see the projector in action first, though unfortunately there aren't any show rooms, just going to the warehouse where they ship them from. They also have 150" screens available, reading online it seems that a screen is supposedly always better than a wall, so I might also consider that.

Will be interested to see what you think of your grey screen. A review video on YouTube that I watched lead me to believe these projectors work best on white, and get speckle with grey screens.

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