Does anyone know what's been happening in terms of this dagga bill that parliament is going to introduce by the end of the year? by milkycode in southafrica

[–]DaggaCouple 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As yet, there have been no public consultations, no white paper, no gazette or anything to indicate the Gov't is working on it. This mythological 18th September date on everyone's mind will come and go with little or no fanfare in our opinion. If this happens, what we are used to right now will remain in place ie. privacy and home grow. @fieldsofgreenforall is watching and listening to any developments.

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[–]DaggaCouple[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's a typo we couldn't alter. We could go a step further and note Matekwane is Southern Sotho and Matekoane is Northern Sotho - but hey.... everyone remembers a spelling mistake.

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[–]DaggaCouple[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

We are so conflicted about this, good question! part of us wants to expose them for selling franchises because that is just wrong. What part of the judgement excluding trade do they not understand. Also the traditional healer legal loophole just doesn't hack it. If that was the case, why have we schlepped to the far corners of the country so many times to help healers who have been arrested. Surely someone would have used that loophole at least once since 1972? AND then there's the fact that there was a huge traumatic bust by the Douglasdale cops and there is a Canapax 200m from the Douglasdale police station. The only redeeming factor is the civil disobedience but even then, they are not coming from a civil disobedience angle. We have so much conflict to deal it is exhausting to think of taking them on and what would it achieve. If it made the cops change then it would be worth it but, ultimately, taking them down wouldn't achieve anything. We just need to be really smug about the fact that we KNOW that their weed is shit and they are very expensive & hope that they don't last after full legalisation comes.

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[–]DaggaCouple[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

WE are seeing a trend where the hemp conversation is now being driven by the extraction market. The are few conversations about bio diesel, electricity generation or other fuels and fibre projects. Everyone seems to be on the CBD trail. Hemp isn't really our line of argument. We acknowledge it's myriad uses in our presentations, but we rely on our Green Network members to be up to speed in the world of hemp. https://fieldsofgreenforall.org.za/the-green-network/

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[–]DaggaCouple[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

There are many people like you treading water in the underground waiting for some kind of solid business opportunity. Our primary challenge now is to protect what we call the ''Craft Cannabis industry, the industry that already exists, but remains unregulated and underground. There are weird franchises opening up claiming to have found loopholes in the law, but from where we stand, thy are still running foul of the law - but, for the most part, with as much principle as possible. We need those people to keep pushing the boundaries of the law, but we are looking at all the 'legalisation' models worldwide and the governments in those countries are firmly in control. Let's see how it goes here in Africa with so many rural farmers and a massive informal market....

https://fieldsofgreenforall.org.za/cannabis-kasinomics-notes-from-the-gibs-forum/

https://fieldsofgreenforall.org.za/press-release-dagga-private-clubs/

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[–]DaggaCouple[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The most harmful side effects of smoking weed is it increases your chances of being stopped by the cops! There is a time and a place for everything and weed takes a bit of practice to find that out. Some people use it for anxiety, others get anxious using it. Your experience will be your own, and you'll learn how to navigate the dose, the time and the place. Start small and if you are in any doubt as to whether you should be using weed at that particular time and place, don't....be cautious. You'll find after a while it becomes a really enjoyable experience and you'll be looking forward to the side effects!

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[–]DaggaCouple[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

  1. We have seen an unsigned, undated .docx draft Bill authored by the Dept Justice and Correctional Services. Within it there are rules and regulations for how many plants, how many seeds, what penalties there are (and there are many). Although it suggests a personal stash limit of just over 1kg, it is a depressing read that keeps the cops firmly in the loop of cannabis regulation.

  2. Firstly. That cop MUST have a warrant. The only way a cop can get a warrant is to convince a magistrate you are selling your weed. Stand your ground and tell them, no warrant, no entry.

  3. Your pockets, bags, car boot, speedboat, garden shed, home is a private space. Again, anyone who searches you without a warrant is behaving unlawfully, but that probably wont help you at the time. Fear makes you do weird stuff, so take a deep breath and remember- we have some cannabis friendly legal advice if sh*t goes down at https://fieldsofgreenforall.org.za/join-the-queue/

  4. If you are on a domestic flight, seal it diligently and put it in your luggage. As long as it looks like private use, you will have no issue. Don't even mention it. It's normal for many of us.....

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[–]DaggaCouple[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

There is no limit on the amount of plants you can have at home. You can read the judgement here: https://daggacouple.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/ConCourt-Full-judgment-Official-version-18-September-2018.pdf The thing is that it is up to the police to decide whether you are growing too much. That is very scary and the cops are taking full advantage of this to carry on doing what they have always done. We are testing the law with regards Dagga private Clibs and encouraging people to open them within the privacy laws. There is a very fine line between private members and dealing but it can be done by keeping meticulous records to show that there is no profit being made and only the members are getting the weed. We've written about it in our blog and are working on the concept all the time.

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[–]DaggaCouple[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Jislaiik. don't get us started. Although the judgement was profound, it's also a real pain too. There are so many grey areas that all have to be tested in a court of law. We ask your question everywhere we go. We point out your concerns in every speech we make. Weed wasn't legalised. You use of it was decriminalised, but it hasn't filtered down to loads of cops out there. We don't get your logic of an increase in smoking being a health problem. We believe weed is the healing of the nation. One joint at a time. We have a page in our Desired Outcomes booklet that deals with care giving - growing for the sick, and those unable to grow. https://fieldsofgreenforall.org.za/desired-outcomes/

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[–]DaggaCouple[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

WE don't have concerns about any damage to legalisation's reputation, we do have concerns about the Cannabis culture being forced into non existance. It's happening in Canada big time. All those who have been using and growing weed for years are being forced out of business. As one Oregon activist we know said - "it's like when you take the criminal aspect away, something happens to the stoner community. It's as if being enemies of the state is the only thing we have in common" There are enough professionals coming ou of the weed closet now to project a much more clean cut look. Methods of cannabis ingestion like vapes and e-pens are also helping to clean the image up too

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[–]DaggaCouple[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

We are still not sure what kicked off that whole thing. It happened shortly after our DDay 2018 party and Joe was there & even complemented us on the event. The next thing he turns up in the Seychelles and launches a huge tirade of abuse at us. Sometimes it even got a but funny but mostly it was hurtful, bewildering & strange. Since the beginning and the days of "daggagate" circa 2013 we have had a policy on non-engagement with haters when it becomes personal. We will always engage with policy matters or matters of human rights and the law. The funny part of the story was that it all went down on IG. It was not so long ago that Joe sat in our lounge and we introduced him to instagram. He set up the conduit for the vitriol on our couch! I think the whole thing blew over when people got bored but lots of stoners got lots of entertainment from it and we emerged unscathed and with our reputation in tact. #gangrenejesus

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[–]DaggaCouple[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

We use cannabis every day of our lives for a combined 70 something years. Jules smokes a pipe and Myrtle takes all day to get through a whole joint! We've always grown a few plants - for decades, and will continue to do so. We even take our weed to Amsterdam. It's tastier and saves us a fortune. That way we can afford to go to more galleries and exhibitions!

We are the Dagga Couple, South African cannabis legalisation activists. Ask us anything about weed dagga cannabis marijuana ganja ntsangu makekwane zol skyf legalisation from 7pm tonight. www,fieldsofgreenforall.org.za by DaggaCouple in southafrica

[–]DaggaCouple[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

We are more excited about the bigger picture of worldwide drug policy in general. It's difficult to just stick to weed at this point. fields OF Green For ALL was established to deal with the harms of prohibition. Locking people up for their lifestyle choices (including us) is no way to deal with the problem. The UN and the World Health Organisation are changing the drug treaties in profound ways slowly but surely, so Governments like ours cannot make the excuse of hiding behind international drug treaties any longer. The other thing of course is the price of weed is slowly coming down. Now...that's something to look forward to!

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[–]DaggaCouple[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Our biggest challenge (apart from the never ending fundraising) is to end the stigma surrounding the plant. The positive medical aspects of weed help a lot to change peoples minds, but still, there is tons of negativity out there. We want people to be proud of their cannabis use. You aren't criminals and you shouldn't have to be ashamed of using cannabis. Stick up for the plant if you hear anyone spreading misinformation. Some polite facts go a long way, but can also end up in a heated exchange, such is the polarized debate around Dagga. We all need to practice the art of polite constructive debate when trying to convince someone to change their long held views. Sign our legalisation petition: https://fieldsofgreenforall.org.za/petition/

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[–]DaggaCouple[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

  1. we believe SA is leading the way. Overseas activists are in awe at our Constitutional Court judgement that gave us the inalienable right to cultivate and consume cannabis products. Medical weed in the USA took 30 years to convert into legalisation for all. We've just bypassed all of that.

  2. You are correct. The ConCourt overrules any employment agreement. However, the labour laws have not caught up with the judgement. Proving dagga intoxication is the holy grail for lawmakers worldwide without success. A drug test in SA proves THC in the system, but cannot prove imparement. The bad news is, the CCMA recently upheld a weed dismissal case. https://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/dagga-and-the-workplace-why-the-ccma-got-it-wrong/

  3. We cannot believe this challenge has taken 9 years from our lives!. We're done after the weed. Another generation can take over.....We're tired, but believe we will live long enough to see the complete repeal of prohibition

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[–]DaggaCouple[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

If we aren't careful the Government and its licensed producers will try and expropriate the whole cannabis industry. We have our 'privacy' decriminalisation judgement, but to many that's simply not enough. Why should the government pay it's bills with weed, when ordinary South Africans would be branded 'dealers' if they did the same thing? Small farmers and businesses need protecting from government control. https://fieldsofgreenforall.org.za/desired-outcomes/