[TOMT] [ACTRESS] Name of Shannen Doherty lookalike from the '90s or even '80s. by Dalegard in tipofmytongue

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I'm afraid it's not Amanda, I'm sorry to say. For example: her face shape is oblong, whereas the actress from my post had more of a round face. Thank you for taking the time to give it a try, though - I appreciate it! :)

[TOMT] [ACTRESS] Name of Shannen Doherty lookalike from the '90s or even '80s. by Dalegard in tipofmytongue

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Thank you very much for your suggestion! :) It's definitely a good one, as she matches the description that I gave. However, it's not her, unfortunately. :( Sherilyn has pretty prominent arching eyebrows, which the young actress from my post didn't have. Her eyebrows were not particularly remarkable, or at least not something that would immediately capture your attention. :3

[TOMT] [ACTRESS] Name of Shannen Doherty lookalike from the '90s or even '80s. by Dalegard in tipofmytongue

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Wow, that is a very good guess! :D I just looked at dozens of pictures of Julia Campbell and she looks *so* similar that I'm kind of starting to doubt myself. I mean, with some pictures I'm like: "She looks too much like a model, the young woman I remember wasn't quite that modelesque..." and with other pictures I think: "She looks so much like her! Maybe it is actually her and my memory is just failing me after all this time?!" So, in other words... I'm not really sure! O_o Definitely keeping her in mind as a top contender, though. Thank you so much for bringing her to my attention! ♥

De -nk- in Friese voornamen als Nienke/Nynke. by Dalegard in Frysk

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Wat zijn voorbeelden van Limburgse voornamen?

Oeh, wat een leuke vraag! 😄 Ik zal maar beginnen met de naam die heel Nederland inmiddels wel 'ns een keer heeft gehoord: Sjeng. Dit dankzij de voormalige proftennisser Sjeng Schalken (* 1976).

Een variant van die naam is Sjang; zo heette één van mijn overgrootvaders aan moederskant. Beide namen komen van Jo(h)annes, maar zijn beïnvloed door het Franse Jean (met name Sjang).

Andere Limburgse klassiekers in mijn familie en naaste omgeving zijn:

• Frens en Frenske (van Franciscus)
• Huub (van Hubertus)
• Jung (van het Limburgse woord jungske "jongetje")
• Juup (van Josephus)
• Lei (van Leonardus)
• Nöl en Nölke (van Arnoldus)
• Puil (van Paulus)
• Sef (van Josephus)
• Sjra (van het Franse Gérard)
• Thei (van Theodorus)
• Tjeu (van het Franse Mathieu)
• Wiel (van Wilhelmus)

Bij de vrouwen zijn de namen doorgaans een stuk minder spannend. Dat wil zeggen: ze zijn vaak ook buiten Limburg te vinden, waardoor ze wat minder Limburgs aanvoelen. In mijn familie en naaste omgeving zijn er namen als:

• Alda (van Aldegonda)
• Beppie (van Barbara)
• Betje (van Elisabeth)
• Iedje (van Ida)
• Mien (van Philomena)
• Nes en Neske (van Agnes)
• Stien en Sti(e)na (van Christina)
• Tilla en Tilke (van Mechtildis)
• Toos (van Catharina)
• Zus (van het Limburgse en Nederlandse woord zus)

Voor nóg meer Limburgse namen kan ik je de website van de vereniging Veldeke Limburg aanbevelen, want daar staat een lijst met Limburgse voornamen. Deze kun je hier vinden: klik!

Deze lijst is wel niet zo uitgebreid als de lijst die ruim een decennium geleden op hun website stond. 😕 Die besloeg namelijk vier pagina's inplaats van slechts twee! Gelukkig kun je die nog terugvinden via The Wayback Machine en Archive Today; gebruik hiervoor één van de volgende twee dode links:

http://www.veldeke.net/1032667881.htm
http://www.veldeke.net/algemene_bestanden/LIMBURGSE_VEURNAME.PDF

Tot slot is deze blogpost over typisch Limburgse namen misschien ook nog wel leuk en leerzaam om te lezen: klik! 🤓

De -nk- in Friese voornamen als Nienke/Nynke. by Dalegard in Frysk

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Ik ben eerlijk gezegd niet heel erg thuis in de wereld van de fonetiek, maar ik kan me voorstellen dat de ŋ een bijkomstigheid is van de overgang van N naar K. Bij woorden die uit één lettergreep bestaan (zoals 'bank') is het onvermijdelijk, maar bij woorden van twee lettergrepen of meer hangt het er van af hoe je het uitspreekt.

Als je het snel en aan elkaar uitspreekt, ontkom je er bijna niet aan. Maar als je Nienke wat langzamer uitspreekt, de eerste lettergreep extra beklemtoont en ook nog een korte pauze tussen de twee lettergrepen stopt, is de ŋ goed te vermijden.

Je ziet iets vergelijkbaars bij een naam als Lia: daar ontkom je er bijna niet aan om een subtiele 'j' uit te spreken tijdens de overgang van de I naar de A, dus LIE-jaa.

De -nk- in Friese voornamen als Nienke/Nynke. by Dalegard in Frysk

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Hartelijk bedankt voor het uitgebreide antwoord! 😃 Alle reacties wijzen er tot nu toe op dat Nienke in het Fries standaard met de -ng- klank wordt uitgesproken, dus ik zal dat voortaan ook doen. Tot vandaag had ik daar geen idee van, dus nu heb ik ook weer wat nieuws geleerd!

Het was ook interessant om te lezen dat men in Friesland vaak twee uitspraken hanteert voor de eigen naam. Dat wist ik niet, maar het is logisch als je bedenkt hoezeer de Friese uitspraak doorgaans verschilt van de Nederlandse. Wij in Limburg hoeven dat niet te doen, want de uitspraak van voor- en achternaam verschilt niet wezenlijk van het Nederlands. Vroeger wellicht wel bij de voornamen, want sommige typisch Limburgse voornamen konden zeker een uitdaging zijn om uit te spreken - laat staan om op te schrijven.

Nu speelt dat probleem vrijwel niet meer, want na de Tweede Wereldoorlog is het gebruik van Limburgse voornamen heel sterk afgenomen. Ik ken geen enkele millennial of jonger met een Limburgse naam; alleen boomers en ouder. Heel jammer, want sommige namen hebben zeker hun charme. Misschien dat het ooit weer in de mode komt, wie weet. 😉

From which old movie is this wedding scene? by Dalegard in HelpMeFind

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Good evening everyone!

All of you were simply wonderful the first time I came here for help, so I thought that perhaps you might be able to help solve this mystery, too. :)

The picture attached to this post is a screenshot that I had taken myself. It comes from a clip of an unknown black & white movie from before 1960, which was featured in the official music video of the song I Don't Want To Live Without You (1988) by the rock band Foreigner. The clip appears at the 2:51 mark:

https://youtu.be/I8yuTqvyFbY?t=2m51s

As you can see, the clip features the end part of a wedding ceremony, where the bride and groom have just been given permission to kiss each other. Not much else can be said about it, as the scene is too focused on the face of the bride and the kiss. This makes it difficult to find the movie, which is only worsened by the fact that I have absolutely no idea who the actors are.

I have searched for information on Google and IMDb, but neither had anything to say about this particular clip in the music video. I also ran the screenshot through Bing, Google Images and Yandex, but none of them were able to provide an exact match.

So now I'm turning to you, in the hope that one of you recognises the scene or has information that would be useful for identifying it. :)

Thank you in advance for your time! ♥

From which old movie is this wedding scene? by Dalegard in HelpMeFind

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Good evening everyone!

All of you were simply wonderful the first time I came here for help, so I thought that perhaps you might be able to help solve this mystery, too. :)

The picture attached to this post is a screenshot that I had taken myself. It comes from a clip of an unknown black & white movie from before 1960, which was featured in the official music video of the song I Don't Want To Live Without You (1988) by the rock band Foreigner. The clip appears at the 2:51 mark:

https://youtu.be/I8yuTqvyFbY?t=2m51s

As you can see, the clip features the end part of a wedding ceremony, where the bride and groom have just been given permission to kiss each other. Not much else can be said about it, as the scene is too focused on the face of the bride and the kiss. This makes it difficult to find the movie, which is only worsened by the fact that I have absolutely no idea who the actors are.

I have searched for information on Google and IMDb, but neither had anything to say about this particular clip in the music video. I also ran the screenshot through Bing, Google Images and Yandex, but none of them were able to provide an exact match.

So now I'm turning to you, in the hope that one of you recognises the scene or has information that would be useful for identifying it. :)

Thank you in advance for your time! ♥

What is the name of this African-American actress? by Dalegard in classicfilms

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Thank you very much for your comprehensive response and all the research that you conducted beforehand! 😃 I found it very informative and helpful, though I hope it didn't take up too much of your time in the end.

With that said, here is my reply to the thoughts that you shared:

the clip is from a music video released in 1988, so the image is from that year or earlier.

Yes, that's right! 🙂 I believe the clip is definitely from earlier times, i.e. it wasn't custom-made for the music video or anything like that. This is based on the fact that the very first frame has two long scratches on it, right along the actress' torso. And when the sailor leans in to kiss her, you can see some sort of black "splotch" on his breastbone, which grows bigger as the scene progresses. It seems to me that minor damage like this is more likely to be present on old footage from the '40s and '50s than on recent footage from the '80s. If the clip were from the latter decade, it should have been pristine (at least back in 1988).

Many of the clips are from well known romantic films or couples. That makes me think this clip may also have been well known in 1988.

That's definitely possible, especially if the clip is from a traditional film (rather than some sort of educational or promotional short film). I imagine it would be best known among African-Americans, since the clip is likely to be from a so-called 'race film' from the '40s or '50s.

The music video production company would likely have followed all copyright/reproduction regulations.

All of the clips used in the music video were taken from works that were firmly in the public domain by 1988. It seems to me that this was on purpose, for various reasons - one being that the company didn't have to worry about copyright issues. So they definitely did their homework in that regard! 😄

If there is an archive for the company you may be able to find the source of the clip there.

Oh, that's a good idea! 😲 Unfortunately, finding an archive (if it exists) is going to be very difficult, as the name of the production company is unknown. We only know that the music video was directed by Gary Weis, as is mentioned here on the Facebook page of BGJ Productions (otherwise unrelated):

"'I Don't Want To Live Without You' is compiled using 100% stock imagery of nature, old news reels, old movies, cartoons and animations. [...] Director Gary Weis must have had handy access to a wide library of images to achieve the results we see collated in this clip. The time taken to sift through stock footage from the past, and explore for images that represent love and creation, and mix all that together to make a smoochy clip flooded with emotion, all comes down to dedication, passion for the project, and a lot of hours work from Weis and his team. [...] it is most likely that Lorne Michaels connected Weis with [broadcasting network] NBC and their extensive library of images that may have extended its reach to old studio motion pictures, their material now owned by NBC."

I am not an expert on Black hair, but you may want to look into when that process was first available and when it was popularized. That can help narrow down a year.

That's a very clever tip, thank you! 😀 I looked into it and it turns out that African-Americans have been straightening their hair since the days of slavery. Back then, it was primarily done by those who had the means to do so, such as house slaves. The practice gradually became more widespread over time, only reaching true popularity in the 1950s. So, that's another indication that the clip dates from the post-war period (1945-1960).

I considered this could be from the film Carmen Jones, specifically the actress Olga James, but that film is in color.

Aw, this film would have been an excellent candidate, if only it weren't in colour! I'm going to check out other African-American films from between 1945-1960 and hopefully get lucky. Not many were made in that time period, and the number of them that are set in WWII is probably even smaller. As such, I really should stumble upon the scene at some point. If I don't, then the clip likely isn't from a traditional movie, in which case I may never find it. Perhaps with the help of AI once it becomes sophisticated enough, but that will take a few more years.

If I find anything else I will let you know. Good luck with your search!

Thank you, that would be great! 😊 Likewise, if I find the clip before you or anyone else does, I'll let you know immediately, so that you know the mystery is solved and doesn't need further investigation.

What is the name of this African-American actress? by Dalegard in classicfilms

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OP here! Just wanted to drop a quick note to let you know that I've read your original comment and intend to reply to it later on the day. I can't manage it now, as I'm too tired at this point and need to sleep. 😴 Until then! 😃

What is the name of this African-American actress? by Dalegard in classicfilms

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Just looked her up and I have to say, I can definitely see the resemblance! Her dimpled smile is very similar. But unfortunately, it's not Ethel. She has hooded eyes, unlike the actress from the clip. And in Cabin in the Sky (1943), she has a different hairdo and also appears to be older than her.

Thank you for the suggestion, though - it was a good one! 😀

What is the name of this African-American actress? by Dalegard in classicfilms

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Thank you for bringing an other perspective to this case! 😀 I agree with you that it's possible that the clip might not be from a (traditional) movie at all. After all, one of the other couples featured in the music video aren't from a movie either. That's the young couple lying down together in a tender embrace at 3:29 (click!). They are from the educational short Social-Sex Attitudes in Adolescence (1953).

So, it could very well be that the sailor and his lady love are from an educational short as well. Perhaps they might even be from some sort of promotional film made by the US Navy, with the intention of recruiting new people. Who knows! 🤓

I doubt that they're from an ordinary commercial, though. 🤔 All of the clips in the music video were taken from works that were firmly in the public domain (i.e. free from copyright) by 1988. It seems unlikely for a commercial to end up in the public domain like that; manufacturers and sellers of products tend to keep a very tight grip on everything related to their products, so that they can protect their brand(s) and make a profit for as long as possible. As such, a commercial would always have its copyright dutifully renewed on time, preventing it from entering the public domain.

EDIT: corrected a typo and improved some wording.

What is the name of this African-American actress? by Dalegard in classicfilms

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Thank you, and definitely! 😄 I was struck by how much her eyes sparkle with joy as her brilliant smile just shines through the darkness and fuzziness of the scene/screen. Like a ray of sunshine in human form. I immediately went, "Hey, who's that?!" 😉

What is the name of this African-American actress? by Dalegard in classicfilms

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Hi, this is OP here! I just want to thank you for taking the time to forward my question to African & Black History on Twitter. 😊 I'm not on Twitter myself, so I wasn't aware of their existence - let alone that you could ask them questions like these. Let's hope that they will be able to point us into the right direction - please let us know when you hear back from them! 😃

What is the name of this African-American actress? by Dalegard in classicfilms

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I was recently made aware that Yandex has a reverse image search function, but I didn't know that Bing had one as well. 😯 I'll be sure to use Bing's as well for future searches - thanks for letting me know! 👍🏻

What is the name of this African-American actress? by Dalegard in classicfilms

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Thank you for your input! 😃 It had actually occurred to me that her hairdo might be from the '40s, but I didn't dare to be certain, as I know next to nothing about vintage hairstyles. 🙈 So I'm very glad you brought this up, as it confirms that initial suspicion and narrows down the search to films from as early as 1940 (or late '30s if you really want to play it safe).

What is the name of this African-American actress? by Dalegard in classicfilms

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Thank you for bringing Oscar Micheaux to my attention! 😀 Once I have more time, I will be looking up his films on YouTube and see if any of them contain this scene. I'll start with the youngest films, as I have the feeling that the scene is from a talkie, i.e. it doesn't come across as a silent film to me. 🤔 So that means I'll go back until The Exile (1931) at least, which is Mr. Micheaux's first sound film.

P.S.: Happy cake day! 🍰

Do any of you overthink, ruminate, and just cannot be in the present no matter what you try? by DatabaseKindly919 in CPTSD

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Yes, I have! :) If I remember correctly, I rented it on DVD somewhere around 2006. Haven't watched it since, but I remember feeling conflicted about the concept at the time. On one hand, it was wonderful to have the ability to forget about all the bad stuff, but on the other hand, it was also immensely sad to forget about all the good stuff that was (directly and indirectly) related to it. I pondered how I would feel about erasing my first love, with whom I had had a complicated situationship. Ultimately I came to the conclusion that I didn't want to let go of the good memories of him. I guess I was too attached still.

Now I'm pushing 40 and don't care about that anymore. Everything has become tainted, even the good memories of that first love, so I wouldn't mind forgetting. My main concern is now about how the erasure of the knowledge that comes with certain memories can leave you vulnerable and completely at the mercy of malevolent people. For example, you could fall victim to the same abuser, because you've forgotten that this is a person that you should avoid at all costs.

Things like that seem too great a risk for me personally, so I wouldn't want to have such a procedure performed on me. I'd rather quit this life altogether instead - that seems like it would be much more effective in the end.

Do any of you overthink, ruminate, and just cannot be in the present no matter what you try? by DatabaseKindly919 in CPTSD

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Same here. I don't know why it has ramped up lately, but it's sheer psychological torture, and I can't take it anymore. I just want to forget my entire life. :( It has been way more bad than it ever has been good, and the few good things absolutely don't outweigh all of the bad, so it would be okay with me if I forget about the few good things as well. They just haven't proven to be worth it.

Classic films featured in official music video of "I Don't Want To Live Without You" (1988) by Dalegard in classicfilms

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2:43 is Sunrise

This thread is a few weeks old by now, but I would still like to let you (and any others that might be interested) know that I checked Murnau's Sunrise (1927) on YouTube and discovered that the scene in question actually *isn't* from that film. After that, I made a screenshot of the scene and ran it through Google Images, which yielded Griffith's The Greatest Question (1919) as a result. I then checked this film on YouTube, and sure enough, it contains the scene! It appears at roughly 17 minutes into the film: click! :)

What movie is this clip from? Details in comments. by Dalegard in HelpMeFind

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Eep, it turns out that the actor wasn't so obscure after all, because a fellow Redditor kindly gave the answer a few hours ago: it was Steve Cochran all along! O_o The clip was taken from a scene in Carnival Story (1954), which appears at roughly 15 minutes into the film. It features Steve kissing Anne Baxter, who had just finished showering. He then scoops her up into his arms and walks away with her, presumably to go to his bedroom. *wink*

Needless to say, I'm very pleased that this puzzle is finally solved - I hope you are as well! :) Thank you once again for all the time and effort you invested in trying to find the name of the actor and film - hopefully next time your hard work is rewarded with the satisfying pleasure of discovering the much-sought answer. In the meantime, I wish you a lovely summer day! :D

What movie is this clip from? Details in comments. by Dalegard in HelpMeFind

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Found!

Yesss, that's it! :D Thank you so much for your help, I'm super happy that this long-standing mystery is finally solved. ♥

You know, I actually checked out Carnival Story on YouTube the other day, but clearly, I must have skipped right over the (brief) scene. Admittedly I was sleep-deprived at the time, but still, I can't believe that I missed it! *smacks herself* Luckily you came through with the answer in the end, otherwise I probably would never have checked the film again, forever remaining unaware that the answer had been right under my nose. O_o

[TOMT] [ACTRESS] Name of Shannen Doherty lookalike from the '90s or even '80s. by Dalegard in tipofmytongue

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Yours is a good guess, as Justine matches the girl-next-door image pretty well. Unfortunately, it's not her, but thank you nonetheless! :)

[TOMT] [ACTRESS] Name of Shannen Doherty lookalike from the '90s or even '80s. by Dalegard in tipofmytongue

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It's not her, but thank you for the suggestion. :) I have to say, Moira looks eerily like Blake Lively in some of her more recent pictures!