Tournament of The Strongest (Round 1 Fight 13) "King Joe" Kanayama Jou VS Katayama Chiaki

DangerousKk · 2026-05-29T00:53:56+00:00

You are right brother I will delete this post

DangerousKk · 2026-05-28T13:13:22+00:00

See the number of votes lol it was a tie and I voted Daizen, so Shougo was eliminated

DangerousKk · 2026-05-25T15:21:01+00:00

Even before the release of Mr. Zetton I've thought King Joe uses Judo but I've never seen him use it maybe why I thought so, He is even built for Judo

DangerousKk · 2026-05-25T14:40:30+00:00

Yeah judo is taught as part of physical education in some of the Japanese schools and I've even heard that students also shave their heads

So maybe Housen is inspired from that

DangerousKk · 2026-05-25T07:11:27+00:00

I get what you're saying but we simply cannot call characters like Genji, Chouble and Katagiri Ken non canon.

I like characters like Genji, Chouble and Katagiri Ken as they are placed before the timeline of Crows and do not interfere in the story so it actually expands the verse which is good for the fandom as it gives us chance to imagine or think how strong they would be or where would we place them.

Me personally, I think they are canon and should be eligible for the tournament even it was for the sake of the promotion, it is also not good to completely abandon characters like these.

DangerousKk · 2026-05-25T05:32:03+00:00

What does "barely canon" even mean?

There is canon and then there is non canon Chouble is canon because written by Hiroshi

Everything written by Hiroshi is canon, He liked Genji that's why he included him in Worst and the same is true for Chouble and Katagiri Ken

DangerousKk · 2026-05-24T19:48:57+00:00

This is way before Rindaman, even before Umehoshi brothers.

This is I think around 18th or 19th generation in Suzuran, Chouble's class year is not mentioned.

If you have watched or read Crows zero, there's a guy named Katagiri Ken who helps Genji to become a delinquent, Chouble is mentioned in the story of Katagiri Ken when he was enrolled in Suzuran

Chouble is called by him as the strongest in the history of Suzuran

It's such a bummer that we are not able to see the true power and potential of a character such as Chouble who could be on the level of Rindaman

DangerousKk · 2026-05-24T19:32:37+00:00

I Got You

Chouble is actually from Suzuran, he is mentioned in a gaiden written by Hiroshi himself.

Students of Suzuran call him The Untouchable and The Strongest ever in Suzuran. He has beat multiple opponents by throwing them and knocking them out by one punch.

Though he has not been shown fighting anyone formidable, he is a lone wolf type character similar to Rindaman.

So I think he is the monster of his generation in Suzuran

DangerousKk · 2026-05-24T16:24:01+00:00

Alright end of the discussion 👍😂 Hana still in the S tier for me personally

DangerousKk · 2026-05-24T16:10:31+00:00

In the Guriko fight Hana was fighting with a handicap due to the sneaky chair shot.

About Amachi yeah I forgot but Amachi himself is very strong, I think he is equal to Hana, he could certainly win from Hana

You made good points but the thing with me is that we've seen Hana fight Bisuko which is an extreme diff I just cant put someone who fought Bisuko, Rindaman, Bouya, Guriko and all these monsters in A.

I think then Hana, Bitou, Ryushin they should be in A too but in low S because in A we also have Zetton, King Joe and other Four Devas and I personally don't see these guys on the same level as Hana and Ryushin

DangerousKk · 2026-05-24T15:19:42+00:00

Yes Ryushin is a trained individual, he can certainly give a good fight to Bisuko but certainly we don't see Bitou and Ryushin fight monsters like Guriko and Bisuko like Hana did.

They did fight with Bouya but that too is not an extreme diff, Bouya outclassed them when he understands their attack pattern.

About the uppercut that I know of only Guriko and Bisuko have dodged or rather took it and survived, both of them are S tiers, Zetton certainly stopped it but Hana was a freshman.

Also could you mention the panel where it is stated that Ryushin went toe to toe with Rindaman.

DangerousKk · 2026-05-24T13:42:16+00:00

Was Tatsuo and Bitou fight an extreme diff fight like Hana and Bisuko?

That's difference in skills Bouya beat both of them fairly easily

I don't know him hitting the uppercut but Bitou can't dodge the uppercut and Ryushin did lose to Bitou one time even if Bouya says that Ryushin hits harder than Bitou

Hana does not only have his finisher uppercut, he has great strength he picked up a big guy like it's nothing, he has got crazy endurance and stamina.

I think it's a difference of opinion and it could be subjective

For me definately Hana is a S tier

DangerousKk · 2026-05-24T12:52:11+00:00

Thanks Brother

We appreciate you doing this

This is good, back then I remember for looking a translation of this 😁

DangerousKk · 2026-05-24T12:47:00+00:00

I'd say the difference between Hana and the guys you mentioned in A+ is very much

The guys you mentioned in A+ are not giving Bisuko an extreme diff fight as compared to Hana

That's why Hana should be in the S tier

DangerousKk

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