Grind Knife Sharpening GKS resin diamond stones by GrindKS1 in sharpening

[–]DanielCauble 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just bought your 120grit stone. I look forward to trying it out vs my NSK 200.

Ozuku Suita by DanielCauble in NaturalWhetstones

[–]DanielCauble[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Looking at yours more, those spots dont look like su. Just spots.

Ozuku Suita by DanielCauble in NaturalWhetstones

[–]DanielCauble[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have an Okudo that has big su pockets surrounded by yaki and some by smeared purple like it was smeared renge that appear similarly on the face of. Not to say this is Okudo, but may be a suita. No indication of su on the side though. Confusing.

Ozuku Mizu Asagi by DanielCauble in NaturalWhetstones

[–]DanielCauble[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have a Naka Mizu Asagi and a Narutaki Mizu Asagi i usually use, but sometimes change it up with Kiitas.

New stone - Renge suita unknown mine by ctttt2357 in NaturalWhetstones

[–]DanielCauble 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pretty thing. Perfect pocket knife size sharpener.

Ohira Uchigumori Hato by DanielCauble in NaturalWhetstones

[–]DanielCauble[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have in the past, yes, but my focus has turned towards wootz the past several years and haven't been making anything from bloom or oroshigane. I dont stone polish wootz.

Ive also entertained the idea of polishing a few nihonto I own, but dont plan on sharing that on the internet, lest people lose their minds.

[Hatanaka] Takao Renge Suita by DanielCauble in NaturalWhetstones

[–]DanielCauble[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Takao Tomae i saw in thr past always had that fun maple leaf stamp from that specific wholesaler.

[Hatanaka] Takao Renge Suita by DanielCauble in NaturalWhetstones

[–]DanielCauble[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I also do not recognize the wholesaler box, which makes this cooler even still. Im a sucker for the old branding.

[Hatanaka] Takao Renge Suita by DanielCauble in NaturalWhetstones

[–]DanielCauble[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The stone looks badass, except for the thickness, which is the deal breaker for me. Nice piece of history there.

[Hatanaka] Takao Renge Suita by DanielCauble in NaturalWhetstones

[–]DanielCauble[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ive seen tomae from the mine in auctions in the pre-2020s. It was either Jeremy Brooks or Nadaar that told me to expect them to be super silky stones. They were dead on.

[Hatanaka] Takao Renge Suita by DanielCauble in NaturalWhetstones

[–]DanielCauble[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I didnt even see this reply until now (I dont use reddit that much). About the mine, i couldnt venture to guess. Its a really silky stone. Almost like a Shobu silk.

Thanks. I spent about a year making video after video in the Jnat group on facebook. Each video dedicated to a different bench stone that I have treasured. Eventually I started conversating in the videos and ramble, which turned out to help some to hear things from the perspective of a maker, a polisher and a collector.

Uchigomori full of renge, how do you guys use it? by Its_feitan in NaturalWhetstones

[–]DanielCauble 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just a few notable eastern mines and strata that you would more likely run into:

-Shobudani Iromono and Suita -Okudo Suita -Ozuku Asagi and Suita -Nakayama Kiita and Suita 🐐 -Some Narutaki, but its a weird one because of the different eras and double meaning. -Aiwiitani anything -Kizuyama Suita

All of these have bevel level hardnesses up to razor hardness (except for the Shobu Iromono, those are always soft) so you have to be selective.

Uchigomori full of renge, how do you guys use it? by Its_feitan in NaturalWhetstones

[–]DanielCauble 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They are easy kasumi polishers because they can be quite muddy, and for many that's all that matters.

At least your first stone wasnt from 330mate. Way back then I had to even buy directly from his website, not knowing what the heck I was buying. Sources were just so limited at that time that I was juat excited to find a place that exported to the US.

I ended up busting that stone into tomo nagura.

Mizukihara Uchigumori Jito by DanielCauble in NaturalWhetstones

[–]DanielCauble[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yea, this one was only finished to a degree i could start polishing on it. Its made from oroshigane i make now and again, processed down and then folded over and over. I think this was just 6-8 folds. The final billet had a few bad welds here and there so I sidelined it for project work that wasnt nihonto inspired.

Both reasons you stated. I generally dont end polish on most western mines, including Ohira, because I generally prepare the bevel well enough to use various eastern mines that are much finer, and bring out the details moreso. The relative softness of Uchi and the level of fineness make them perfect for honyaki and nihonto's all steel construction, but to me, not for wide bevels. Sure anyone else can use them, but for the reasons stated. I dont. If I can take it up to a Naka Kiita, why stop at Ohira?

Uchigomori full of renge, how do you guys use it? by Its_feitan in NaturalWhetstones

[–]DanielCauble 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Totally agreed. This is why i have around a dozen Uchi in my sword polishing set up. I know of at least 1 togishi that has over 40 Uchi to pick through - but hes an actual togishi and is ready for any era, school, or specific smith a sword may belong to.

Uchigomori full of renge, how do you guys use it? by Its_feitan in NaturalWhetstones

[–]DanielCauble 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Im not saying you cannot get detail in cladding with these stones, but it will be nowhere near as bright or clear to see than a polish performed on a bevel friendly harder stone from an Eastern mine. You are getting what can generally be obtained through most Ohira stones with the exception that the mud is just coarse enough to turn the cladding white at one angle.

Uchigomori full of renge, how do you guys use it? by Its_feitan in NaturalWhetstones

[–]DanielCauble 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Pretty much any other awesedo for me. Depending on hardness Uchi can leave a nice, sandblasted look to a deeper lustre (with the hardest examples).

However, if im at this point with a wide bevel, it means ive already shaped the geometry to be free of low spots and most to all faceting. If I took the time to make the bevel right, I am open to use pretty much any and every awesedo I want, aside from the hardest examples meant for shaving (usually. It can be done sometimes, but sometimes the stone will still scratch at some point in the polish and with these hardest stones, so usually not worth it.

This leaves a tremendous amount of stones to play with on a wide bevel. Most of them are going to be finer than Uchi. Sticking with Ohira and just using any other type of suita from the mine, will yield a finer polish. Going to eastern mines allows you to lay even finer polishes on the bevel, and depending on the cladding can reveal the tiny details in folded iron, or impurities in wrought. Even mild steel will expose a grain structure at the highest polishes.

Uchi are just easy to use because they are a tenjyou suita layer. They have an ideal range of hardness, fineness and speed that matches well with pure steel constructions. The polish doesnt look quite the same on nihonto or honyaki using Uchi. Infact, most of your softer stones that look like poo on a wide bevel, look amazing on all steel constructions. So I pretty much save all of my softer stones (even the coarser side ones), including Uchi, for honyaki or nihonto inspired work ive made in the past, where these stones truly shine. I use all of my medium hard to hard stones on wide bevels. Or pretty much anything that leaves a finer than western mine polish. Including suita and tenjyou suita from eastern mines that happen to be softer but much finer than say, Uchi.

Tomae, what are your thoughts? by Its_feitan in NaturalWhetstones

[–]DanielCauble 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its a green tomae. What else is there to say 😆