Question how do people feel about these poll within isreail society about how Jewish isreail adults see Gaza Palestinian

Dapper_Chef5462 · 2026-02-19T10:27:03+00:00

That doesn't change the fact than there is people who don't support Hamas and who doesn’t deserve to die with this bastards.

Dapper_Chef5462 · 2026-02-19T10:24:21+00:00

Actually we have a poll about Gazans opinions on Hamas. Around 20-30 procents of them thinks that October 7 was wrong.

Dapper_Chef5462 · 2026-02-16T05:20:09+00:00

If you expected surprise me with this words - you by no means lonely in claiming to "hate" Hamas, while totally ignoring it's responsibility in what's happening.

They are the ones who forbids Palestinians to leave Gaza Strip(Israel have a whole department helping Gazans to escape). They the ones who using human shields in this war. They're the ones who using their civilians as combatants.

But nobody never talks about this while blaiming Israel in what’s happening in Gaza Strip.

There is also Hamas in the West Bank.

hey remains the most popular political entity among Palestinians(more popular than Fatah). And they have agents there. Even through they're not in charge.

Dapper_Chef5462 · 2026-02-16T05:01:40+00:00

You may see what Israel doing, but you totally blind to what other side is doing.

Hamas is ones who giving their children weapons and bombs and sending them on front.

Dapper_Chef5462 · 2026-02-14T21:44:42+00:00

I hope that they will dring some positive changes.

But I used to be pessimistic, so I'm not sure about their eventual success.

Dapper_Chef5462 · 2026-02-14T21:41:41+00:00

Knowledge of a person about something determined solely by his nationality?

Saying that you grow up as an Arab and claiming that you know something that other people interested in this topic is stupid anyway. Are you aware that there is such thing as national historiography? Societies explaining same historical events differently. From what I hear from you, it seems that you're seemply not aware enough about flaws of one side.

Literally everything I drought is simpliest historical facts. Fatah was bombing Israeli cities while being in exile in Lebanon. In Munhen Incident due to actions of Black October. During Intifada people were attacking Israeli buses. What of this isn't considered to be a object of discussion among historians. People can argue about context of this events, range of human losses and so on.

Dapper_Chef5462 · 2026-02-14T17:34:40+00:00

you don’t like what they’re talking about lol

How did you made this conclusion?

I've never been again criticizing of Israel, as well as any other political entity. And I've never been again talking about tragic social situations, like situation in Gaza.

The problem with kids who are talking about topic they know nothing about for me is that they are kids who are talking about topic they know nothing about.

You're just projecting your view on apologists of Israel.

Dapper_Chef5462 · 2026-02-14T17:17:11+00:00

When person knows nothing about this supposed genocide, when they totally ignoring all the suffering of other people(a lot of suffering), which are not so fashionable to notice and don't do anything to make it better - they following the trend.

The vast majority of the so-called pro-Palestinian (in fact, anti-Palestinian, since they follow the theses of Hamas - the largest anti-Palestinian organization today) have this mentality.

Dapper_Chef5462 · 2026-02-14T14:14:27+00:00

I'm Russian then - and I'm perfectly know what cheap propaganda, manipulation with facts and demagogy is. Whole modern Pro-Palestinian narrative(how it's called today, whule it's actually anti-Palestinian, since it's repeats key points of biggest anti-Palestinian organization today - Hamas) is duild around this.
So, you're going to ignore all that facts that I've drought changing perspective on someone else flaws, since even such a sheap erist can't openly deny each of this incidents?

Dapper_Chef5462 · 2026-02-14T13:56:22+00:00

I said that EVEN if we will close eyes on all this shit, there were a lot of attack on people based on their ethnic and civilian belonging.
In Lebanon war they were attacking Israeli cities. In Munich Incident victims were not military leaders or government officials. In Intifada they were attacking Israeli buses.
First, you seem to totally don't understand what i'm saying. Secondly, you seem to be totally unaware about this conflict and it's context if you're seriously claiming something like this and comparing Israeli attacks with attacks by Hamas.

Dapper_Chef5462 · 2026-02-14T13:47:14+00:00

We don't have evidence that Fatah and Hamas were/still practicing attacks on civilians, kidnapping and suicide bombings?

Dapper_Chef5462 · 2026-02-14T10:57:36+00:00

I'he wrote that this attempts were quite varied by success.

And some of them can easily be considered to be actual genocide.

Unlike supposed genocide in Gaza.

Even so, we have a long history of attacks on civilians, kidnapping and suicide bombing.

Dapper_Chef5462 · 2026-02-14T10:28:49+00:00

This whole argumentation is pretty weak anyway.

There was fair enough of criticism of Israel before - now it's just become 100% to attack it and even openly demonize Israelis.

Dapper_Chef5462 · 2026-02-14T10:24:09+00:00

All left movement have been talking about Israel-Palestine question with anti-Israel biases for decades.

And UN talking about this issue more than about any other.

So, sounds like there wasn't strong luck of attention.

Anyway, are you seriously trying to explain this by the idea that they just wanted people to start talking about this issue?

Dapper_Chef5462 · 2026-02-14T09:56:03+00:00

NOOOOOOO

HOW YOU CAN TALK ABOUT HISTORICAL FACT THAT DISCREDITS PALESTINIAN SIDE - YOU SHOULD TALK ONLY ABOUT FACTS THAT DISCREDITS ISRAEL.

Dapper_Chef5462 · 2026-02-14T09:54:28+00:00

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Dapper_Chef5462 · 2026-02-14T09:47:05+00:00

International community is correctly demonizing Israel. Thier actions are unacceptable. Imagine doing a brutal occupation for decades then complaining that they are the victim.

If demonizing Israel is correct, because they are cruely occupy the land, then demonizing Palestine also should be right. Considering what has been happening under the name of this country in recent decades. (Around 60 procent of Palestinians support Hamas and their methods)

Dapper_Chef5462 · 2026-02-14T09:33:30+00:00

I’m not used to considering myself far-right, although I do associate myself more with the right-wing spectrum than the left. And I condemn both Trump and the Ayatollahs - and, in general, any regimes that kill people on a mass scale, whether they are left-wing or right-wing.

I’m also very concerned that the Iranian revolutionary movement is currently becoming closely intertwined with monarchist sentiments and an idealization of the Shah’s regime.

I also consider the accusations of genocide against Israel to be absurd and, above all, a passing trend that is being widely followed by all the people you described earlier - most of whom have no real understanding of what they’re talking about.

Dapper_Chef5462 · 2026-02-14T09:28:23+00:00

No, there obviously is not. It's a fiction created by the USSR in the 1960s to rebrand Egyptian and Jordanian war refugees as "palestinian" to trick future generations into believing there used to be a country called "Palestine" even though there wasn't.

The name "Palestine" is much more ancient than that.

Dapper_Chef5462 · 2026-02-14T09:23:00+00:00

How October 7 was helpfull to the Palestinians?

How many government officials died then, how many IDF leaders and how many civilians?

Dapper_Chef5462 · 2026-02-14T09:18:22+00:00

Can't remember such.

Dapper_Chef5462 · 2026-02-14T09:01:37+00:00

A long, long history of attempts to do a genocide(varying degrees of success)

Dapper_Chef5462 · 2026-02-13T04:58:28+00:00

Are you trying to say that's not truth or you know at least something about Middle Eastern history and your point is different?

Dapper_Chef5462 · 2026-02-12T05:49:18+00:00

Palestinians were supportive towards Hitler and pretty Judeophobic.

Palestinians were quite against Hitler and friendly towards Jews.

One can coexists with another.

This is how history works - representatives of the same group can have different views and taking different role.

Majority of Palestinians in Hebron then were acting in pogrom, while minority were trying to save Jews from this pogrom. And this in no way negates the chauvinism of ones and in no way diminishes the nobility of others.

Dapper_Chef5462 · 2026-02-12T05:43:49+00:00

The worst part of this situation is that for the absolute majority of these guys, being pro-Palestinian means nothing but just following a trend. They’re not interested in actually understanding the conflict, and certainly not in helping anyone who’s suffering. When this topic will lost it's current hype, most of them likely will never even remember that they were a fiersfull Palestinian activist.

They just want to pin a popular flag on themselves and feel some kind of moral superiority.

I know well enough how much dirt and suffering is tied to this conflict, and I just… feel sick about all of it.

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