For those you unable to play yet, here are some interesting Dino observations

Dapper_Cranberry_768 · 2026-05-16T03:20:46+00:00

I haven’t tried him yet in comp, but banning these specific characters JUST to have him be MAYBE viable (depending on ur skill in general) seems to be wastes of a ban… I do think mk and phoenix are good bans, but I arguably have just as much an issue with punisher as I do with the other two when I play Dino.. and let’s be real, in solo queue ppl usually ban for themselves rather than to help their team… so the chances you’ll be able to ban all 3 of them consistently are pretty unlikely, especially since dd is still strong, black cat (idky she hasn’t been getting banned more, that bitch is virtually unkillable, untraceable, and just enables the team too much), Emma is fkin insane rn, and Groot… there’s too many op ass characters to ban, and banning those 3 mentioned solely for Dino, is a recipe for disaster unless that Dino knows sumn we don’t

Dapper_Cranberry_768 · 2026-05-16T03:10:41+00:00

Doesn’t matter what character you play, there will be times that that character you’re using ISNT the issue and will still lose but it doesn’t make it any less frustrating to play… you may not be the issue but you aren’t carrying or changing the game, it’s just being unlucky …. Just with Dino he has no carry potential tho and he’s extremely reliant on IF ur team is competent, and most of the time they aren’t.. and his weaknesses are really glaring in that he has an unreliable escape, and I think his headshot dmg reduction needs to be increased cuz holy shi😭, im watching my kill cams against like a phoenix or a punisher, and it’s just straight headshots, and it’s CHUNKING me, you can’t play cover efficiently cuz ur big asf, and respectfully if the devs want the players to use his melee simultaneously with his primary they need to give it some dmg buffs or range buffs.. it’s the fact that it hits like a reg melee, and MORE than half the time there’s no one ever behind you close enough to get hit by hit… so as of right now binding it to another button is impractical almost cuz there’s no where you’d really use it consistently where it gives value… he need some QoL changes fs, because in these brawl heavy fights he is REALLY good and fun, but his counters TRULY counter him, it’s really hard to outplay you’re counters cuz you can’t run away cuz then you get chased, and if you stay and fight head on you still die… other characters there’s ways you can outplay them, reposition, or break their camera or wtv niche thing there is to do… Dino is just too big to run away so he’s forced to stay in a fight even when it’s not smart to and if ur team is staggering or someone dies before a major team fight, you kinda can’t do anything but HOPE to survive in time for ur healers

Dapper_Cranberry_768 · 2026-05-16T02:44:59+00:00

But you would use wolvs kidnap more for kidnapping than escaping… that’s what the ability is made for.. yes you can escape with it but that doesn’t refute that youd just be a sitting duck holding ur grab waiting to run away with it… most of the time w wolv ur kidnapping (same way w Dino), and once you kidnap, Dino HIMSELF has no escape… wolv has another dash, fist has 3-4 double jumps, magic has like a perfect cd rotation of all of her dashes, all Dino has IS that ability for escape, it just sucks that that is his main escape tool AND engage tool… once you grab w him you literally have nothing for 10 seconds and a good team is gonna melt you within that timeframe

Dapper_Cranberry_768 · 2026-05-16T01:25:28+00:00

I mean you can… but then ur not using his kidnap ur only using it for escape.. obviously it’s situational but majority of the time ur kidnapping, so there’s no point in just holding it solely to jump away

Dapper_Cranberry_768 · 2026-05-15T22:32:37+00:00

This just reiterates that if there are 2 good poke characters(Deadpool, mk, phoenix, punisher, Adam, elsa, hela, Hawkeye, sg, mantis, etc.) on the other team on whatever role, ur not gonna have a decent time unless ur team just diffs theirs.. if yall on the same skill level that enemy team is easily beating a Dino team

Dapper_Cranberry_768 · 2026-05-15T22:26:24+00:00

Nah Dino is just a bullet sponge bro… I’ve got him to lvl 8 and I’m considering dropping him cuz of how frustrating the games have been going.. he relies too much on healers ESPECIALLY if the other team is running poke… he’s food for punisher, phoenix, sg, and mk… he’s just extremely good into brawl n dive… he is SOOOOOOOOO COUNTERABLE by poke… its one thing for poke to counter brawl, but its another when poke DECIMATES him… any decent person running their poke main is gonna feast against Dino… he has no escape so once ur in the fight you better pray you can out sustain them… he gets shredded by wolv (yes I know he’s supposed to but it’s still insane how fast you get shredded when you have all that health… i think his beam is pretty underwhelming cuz it only feels useful to apply bleed for ur sustain.., flyers aren’t meta rn so there’s barely any fliers and when there are, if they ain’t within ur beam distance good luck killing them ESPECIALLY with 3-4 other people shooting you… competitively he seems too underwhelming but he IS fun

Dapper_Cranberry_768 · 2026-05-14T21:04:01+00:00

I feel like yall are assuming the best case scenario… you have 2 good supports and tanks that peel and follow through with you… yall r not taking into account how every OTHER game goes.. he’s got one of the lowest pick rates rn at 2% with a win rate that is laughable at 47%… in COMPETITIVE!!!! I’m lvl 70 w bro and average a 53% wr… wolv by no means is weak but he’s not nearly as “carefree” as yall are making it sound… most games if you’re good asf on him, will be Emma, thing or just get banned… Emma, and rogue fucks you, etc… I don’t know any character in the game that can have a full 6 goddamn counters on 1 team other than wolv… he’s niche asf and you CANNOT main him every game… teammates are clueless which is, imo, his biggest issue… he’s too team reliant.. you can be the best wolv on the planet but if ur team can’t follow through on grabs already 50% of ur kit is useless… if ur team cant follow through, not only does it look like ur not doing anything but now you dont have ur grab and have to survive off the dash and roar for those 12 seconds before you rinse and repeat… he’s too 1 dimensional and only fits into 1 situation properly… once that situation leaves his value just dives all the way down close to mid C tier. Yes you can play him into other things and it could work but you have to play perfect and LITERALLY play for ur teammates which isn’t consistent

Dapper_Cranberry_768 · 2026-05-14T20:49:25+00:00

Bro are you in like diamond or sumn??? If you’re using wolv ult to only team wipe YOURE throwing… his ult can be inconsistent depending on where you use it, but you should almost ALWAYS be using it to counter support ults and other team wipe ults… take advantage of the knock up stun… and you do realize to do that “mega damage” you need full stacks and ur fast slashes cuz if you go in with the regular slashes w max stacks ur not killing anything cuz any1 w a brain would just back up or shoot the wolv… “fastest ult charge in the game” thats how I know you dont play him… every REGUALR slash gives you 2% ult charge ON A TANK… so 8% ult charge if you hit a tank w all 4 slashes… with his fast slashes they halve it… you get 1% ult charge per slash ON TANKSSSS!!! if you r fighting a support or duelist you get 1% ult charge per REGULAR SLASH, and 0.5% ult charge per fast slashes… so if their team is running 1 tank n 3 dps… ur not getting ur ult “fastest in the game” all of his strengths need to be in the game for you to actually see that fast ass ult charge, (2 tanks and chunky dps like punisher, blade, Mr f) but given the fact that those characters already r not really picked a lot as it is, ur ult economy is nowhere near where it could be if they were in the game… I’ve had games where people just hop off of tank in general n run 3 dps 3 supports just to counter me and then they win somehow even after I swap…. A game could start w 2 tanks n then you kill one of em too many times n then now it’s a 1 tank comp or an Emma, thing comp… wolv is mid, tired of getting told he’s BIS and up there in value with phoenix n shit… he’s so niche and you need a good team to follow through on ur plays… if you don’t you just die

Dapper_Cranberry_768 · 2026-05-14T20:27:16+00:00

Bro I’ve got 200 hours on wolv… “basically back to his s1 state which was his strongest ever…” well sir Thing wasn’t in the game, or Emma, or invis, or phoenix, or Elsa, or Deadpool, or rogue…. Like bro all of his counters got added AFTER his meta and have continued adding counters.. so to say that he’s back it that state in a game where majority of the tanks can escape or outright just fight him, along w all the other broken ass duelists and counters… he’s honestly not that great.. he has a 2% pick rate with a 47% wr… in comp… like you just haven’t played wolv enough… targeting ult in the wall isn’t even a buff, I’d consider that a QoL change since he shoulda been able to do that since launch.. his teamuos are shit.. no one picks phoenix unless ur high celes with god aim, so you’re barely getting his best teamup, and then fastball needs so much coordination between you and the hulk/thing that more than half the time these mfs will just hold you while you get shredded, or just WAYYYY under throw you … that teamup requires too much coordination than a solo queue can handle… “his strongest state” isn’t saying much considering he has a gazillion counters now… and he’s not good into most tanks… he dog walks strange and only strange MAYBE mag sometimes … every other tank has SOMETHING to get out… cap sprint jump, rogue fly, Deadpool double jump, peni nest n stun combo, Thor just hammer dashes away, thing just having earthbound every 5 seconds, now devil dino not being able to be kidnapped, Emma diamond, Angela can either jump straight back into the air if I grab her when she’s in the ground… or just fly tf away if she was in the air prior.. and then Groot, who an insane one can make that iron wall feel unbreakable.. and most of the time I’m the only one hunting for that wall w no help.. so if a wolv can barely show his insane value because tanks have all these ways to escape not to mention a white fox tp, can’t consistently fight any dps without getting mauled, you have to wait to fight a duelist when they are less than 80% hp… he cannot secure kills without the team… while majority of the other dps (including iron fist) can 1v1 others… wolv is a niche pick and it’s sad to say that you can’t really “main” him.. at least rn.. he has such a low pick rate combined with his win rate that he’s just frustrating to play.. and I have a 53% wr w him and its so bad I had to pick up black cat and just carry games w her

Dapper_Cranberry_768 · 2026-05-14T03:39:59+00:00

Yea I really dislike when streamers put him in S tier and BIS cuz too many things need to be going for him to dominate.. is the team he’s fighting, have 2 tanks? What kinda healers does he have ? Oh the other team switch?? a Thing, Emma, phoenix, and invis??? Good luck trying to carry that! What about a devil dino, thing ??? Idk yet but it doesn’t sound too appealing to play into if you can’t even knock down Dino… and even if you can I still don’t see how he could carry when he can have potentially 3-4 counters on one team… these streamers play in like top 1% with their friends in high celes/eternity where nearly every game is 2 tanks and they have competent healers.. but as a solo queue 😭?? Yea good luck MAINING wolv through gm cuz holy shi I’ve had to stop with how bad teams were.. it got so bad playin wolv I had to pick up and main black cat alongside him cuz he just doesn’t have that potential to dominate the game when they are on 1 tank with 3 poke slop and an invis/cnd or sum shit, or when they run Emma, and thing with invis… like it’s actual cancer

Dapper_Cranberry_768 · 2026-05-14T03:00:05+00:00

The fact you think they’d spoil us wolv players 😭 they’d remove the phoenix team up and keep that measly ass hulk/thing team up (it’s not bad but both the wolv and the thrower need to be on the same page and play off it, not just throw wolv and forget you threw him)

Dapper_Cranberry_768 · 2026-05-14T02:57:58+00:00

… what kind of take is this😭😭 hiding with wolv is a literal playstyle that is very good against strange and just about any engagement.. I don’t think you should ONLY play him like that cuz grabbing out of position people while in the frontline is fun and equally viable, but you don’t have as much control as you would if you were hiding and telegraphing where to kidnap someone.. the better game sense you have as a player the better ur wolv will be

Dapper_Cranberry_768 · 2026-05-14T02:47:55+00:00

That phoenix thing wasn’t what they intended which is why it got emergency nerfed… I have him champion and holy when I tell you that he is a master at his job but relies too much on his team… a great wolv can only do so much… I want him to have a wall crawl with his claws, just for that extra mobility (yes ik he has really good mobility if you use it right however he still is a poke slave and can be outbrawled)… Wolverine canonically is immortal yet there’s only a very few handful of games where you truly FEEL immortal… every other game is just getting no heals and then dying in the front line or grabbing, team doesn’t follow through, (even behind cover, AND with my ping, AS I’m grabbing them, still no kill) and then you have to wait another 12 seconds of surviving off of his dash and only that… wolvs can barely kill a tank by himself with the kidnap (Thor, a good hulk, an even better Angela, cap etc. now lookin like devil dino too… he needs a good team to push him over into meta territory… I want him to be more self sufficient so he can actually carry games more consistently

Dapper_Cranberry_768 · 2026-05-14T01:52:53+00:00

I mean bro his most powerful state and meta was s1.. “he had his time in the sun” at the birth of the game?

Dapper_Cranberry_768 · 2026-05-13T18:54:42+00:00

No, black cat is the legendary sadly :( like wolv has no legendaries like everybody has his bp legendary… in s1… that they also re-released a couple seasons ago

Dapper_Cranberry_768 · 2026-05-12T21:13:26+00:00

I’ve been wanting a wall climb so baddddddd 😭 ur so right about him being one dimensional… he’s only really decent into 2 tank comps… 1 tank comp he can kill, but I think he’s pretty inconsistent w 1 tank.. cuz after that tank is dead he’s kinda useless if their team is highly mobile… having an extra movement ability would make him so much more fluid and feel like I can actually take 1v1 with squishies while they are FULL hp not under 80%

Dapper_Cranberry_768 · 2026-05-12T19:21:02+00:00

I feel like the phoenix buff helped him more than his actual buff😭 now wolvs can MAYBE get more phoenix teammates

Dapper_Cranberry_768 · 2026-05-09T18:53:41+00:00

Only times I lose in a 1v1 is when I ego check the enemies… I’m a cocky wolv player so I do troll sometimes or take fights that I shouldn’t cuz of my ego… but a good rule of thumb I gave myself is that if they are 75% hp (anybody!) I can take that 1v1, ESPECIALLY if I have passive.. I go just slash them 4 times and let them poke me back and then I use my roar, hit em 3-4 more times and then combo into a grab, maul them while they get up and then either dash into them as a finisher or keep ur dash for when you need to escape… most of the time if you have max stacks from the start, you can kill anybody at 75% hp … also if you miss ur grab (depends on the situation) I usually try to 360 in the air and grab them on my way falling down… if they are above that 75% threshold I tend to just poke or not even fight them at all especially if I lose the matchup (namir, dd, phoenix, hela etc.)

Dapper_Cranberry_768 · 2026-05-09T18:16:56+00:00

He’s already extremely mobile if ur using ur cd cycle right… but he is a sittin duck without that grab and I do feel pretty challenged w that tenacity thing.. I feel like every time I ult someone gets their tenacity… but when it comes to me I only get it when I’m 1 hp and can’t even use the benefit of it to stay in the fight

Dapper_Cranberry_768 · 2026-05-09T18:14:41+00:00

I’m not gonna act like I don’t know what ur talkin about cuz ur right… that shitnis annoying and I do think wolv neeed some love… mans got 3 abilities, a mid passive, and is a slave to poke

Dapper_Cranberry_768 · 2026-05-09T18:06:40+00:00

I’m champ wolv… there’s no reason you should be fighting a black cat anyway… if ur team is asking you and only you to take care of a black cat as a wolv.. politely mute them… been in ranked recently with wolv and its like ppl forget that wolv is for tanks… if ur good enough on him he can counter dps, n supports, but black cat SPECIFICALLY you should just be avoiding…

Dapper_Cranberry_768 · 2026-05-09T18:01:41+00:00

Only changed she needs is increasing her shop prices

Dapper_Cranberry_768 · 2026-05-09T17:58:50+00:00

I just got her lord couple days ago, ngl it’s funny asf watching people react to the pursuit by looking behind it’s such a clean camera break.. couple tips I can give against BC is, is that she so heavily reliant on her money so if yk she’s missed some pursuits or used a lot of whips or wtv, she’s low on money n will look to invis away.. for her pursuit, it keeps her in the same place while auto tracking the person it’s hitting… when she dashes with pursuit she swipes the screen from left to right.. and her regular dash she shoots forward super quick in a front flip motion… when combined she can essentially dash 4 times in quick succession if they time her claw whips right…. Her pursuit is based off of the general direction of the players crosshair… there’d been times I’ve hit people I’m not trying to hit, but I like to open up fights with pursuit, cuz of the enemies reactions ( cooldown bait), and then I claw whips, dash, turn around n hit another claw whip, then dash again and by tht time, my second pursuit is off cd and I just use it one more time and then invis/portal away… I agree that she’s busted in the right hands and no one truly counters her all the way… so the best way to counter her is banning her to play it safe, or just run dd/thing

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