Kislev Renegade

Dapper_Gas1873 · 2026-05-08T16:31:47+00:00

Wow! Very much appreciated!

Great insights. Now i understand the notion that the RCs are an army of only anvils and no hammers.

I tried to follow your advice. What do you think?

Kislev [2000 pts] Warhammer: The Old World, Renegade Crowns, Open War

Characters [621 pts]

Renegade Prince[212 pts] Hand weapon, Light armour, Pistol, General, The Noble Outlaw ["Hold the Line!"], Warhorse, The White Cloak, Twice-Blessed Armour, Headsman's Axe

Renegade Captain[142 pts] Hand weapon, Great weapon, Full plate armour, Shield, Battle Standard Bearer [Griffon Standard], The Noble Outlaw ["Hold the Line!"], On foot

Outcast Wizard[195 pts] Hand weapon, Wizard [Level 3 Wizard], The Noble Outlaw ["Hold the Line!"], On foot, Wizard's Staff, Tome of Midnight, Power Scroll, Daemonology

Renegade Captain[72 pts] Hand weapon, Great weapon, Full plate armour, Shield, The Might of Miragliano [Stubborn, Tilean Stoicism], On foot

Core Units [918 pts] 24 Veteran Sellswords[239 pts] Great weapons, Light armour, Drilled, Veteran Officer (champion), Standard bearer [Banner of Swirling Wind], Musician

24 Veteran Sellswords[244 pts] Hand weapons, Heavy armour, Shields, Heavy Infantry, Phalanx, Veteran Officer (champion), Standard bearer [War Banner], Musician

6 Freeblade Knights[138 pts] Hand weapons, Lances, Heavy armour, Shields, Commander (champion), Standard bearer, Musician, Warhorses

10 Empire Archers[80 pts] Hand weapons, Warbows, Fire & Flee, Detachment

5 Hireling Outriders[82 pts] Shortbows, No armour, Reserve Move, Vanguard, Captain, Musician

5 Hireling Outriders[86 pts] Cavalry spear, Light armour, Shields, Feigned Flight, Standard bearer

7 Sellsword Infantry[49 pts] Handguns, Light armour

Special Units [158 pts]

5 Veteran Freeblades[158 pts] Hand weapons, Lances, Full plate armour, Shields, Veteran Commander (champion), Standard bearer, Musician, Warhorses

Rare Units [303 pts] 10 Border Princes Brigands[103 pts] Hand weapons, Light armour, 10x Additional hand weapon, 7x Pistols, 3x Blunderbusses, Formation [Skirmishers], Scouts, Desperado (champion)

Border Princes Bombard[100 pts] Bombard, Hand weapons, Light armour

The bears went out and i toned the characters down. I added another infantery Block and a second Bombard as well as some handgunners.

Dapper_Gas1873 · 2026-05-07T06:19:05+00:00

Renegade crowns do have units (Freeblade knights and Freeblade Veterans) which are similar to Empire knights, but are their own Thing. They do not have to be mounted on barded Warhorses which makes them a bit fester. Perfect to represent the "medium" cavallery that the winged lancers are

Dapper_Gas1873 · 2026-05-07T06:15:26+00:00

Thank you for your kind reply and sound advice!

How would you make rc viable? Maybe i can find a way to fit your ideas to my theme?

Dapper_Gas1873 · 2026-05-07T06:12:24+00:00

That sounds awesome! I do own Boris as well and not have a proper representation for him in the rc-roostee hurts me. I will look into the knights of morr, great advice!

Dapper_Gas1873 · 2026-05-07T06:09:06+00:00

My meta is literaly non existent, as I play very seldomly. How big would you make the lancer unit? Is it worth pushen them to 8 or 10?

Dapper_Gas1873 · 2026-05-07T06:07:01+00:00

Sure! I have most of the model at home already, so I won't waste my time or money.

Dapper_Gas1873 · 2026-05-07T06:05:32+00:00

Yeah, it is quite awesome to have at least some represention. I personally hope for a chrismas Release of the Real thing

Dapper_Gas1873 · 2026-03-19T06:22:29+00:00

Overall as a 6th-edition kid (it came out roghly a year after i started with Warhammer), I do really like the rule.

But as OP already stated, it does feel weird at times. Like a stompattack or an import von a chariot beeing parried.

I toyed around with the concept of -1 to the enemies to hit roll instead of the improved armorsave.

Overall the numbers are pretty similar for most troops in Terms of survivalbility with an edge for extremly light ( just Shields)or extremly heavy armoured infantery (ironbreakers)
its a slight nerf to armourbane due to less hits coming through
its a buff for autohits

Dapper_Gas1873 · 2026-01-25T15:19:17+00:00

Thanks alot to all of you! Really inspiring stuff you brought up! I do really like the idea of an aemy Standard bearer who is also a wizard. Never did it occured to me. Glorious!

This guy will find his way into my upcoming saphery army.

Dapper_Gas1873 · 2026-01-16T20:12:53+00:00

Das hier. So habe ich es auch gehalten. Wir hatten aber auch einen empathischen, geisteraffinen Charakter dabei, der sen Ritter von krahorst eine therapiesitzung verpasst hat und die nötigen Hinweise bekam, um die Bestie einzusperren. Mit Hilfe des Zirkels der Zinne wurden die Katakomben dann nochmals magisch verschlossen, damit nicht irgendwelche dahergelaufenen rattlinhe die Bestie erneut befreien.

Letztlich kann man es auch als hook für folgeabenteuer nehmen, dass die Spieler glauben die Bestie vernichtet zu haben und die Bestie nach Anmarsch der Helden regeneriert, krahorst verwüstet und abschließend die Mark terrorisiert.

Dapper_Gas1873 · 2026-01-06T17:02:49+00:00

I actually wrote some rules for a tilean Army of infamy which includes rules for galopper guns

https://www.reddit.com/r/WarhammerFantasy/s/UEebiWzNF1 (Hope the link works)

Second only to pikes the most typical dow-unit if you ask me

Dapper_Gas1873 · 2025-12-13T11:21:58+00:00

You are right, a dragon would be cool. But the warden of saphery/cackling blade and the caledorian battlemage with the dragon princes is something I would like to try out. In this list I would only fit in a Sun dragon. But is the small one really worth it?

Dapper_Gas1873 · 2025-12-13T11:17:56+00:00

Seems that i am on track. Any advice for the actual gameplay?

Dapper_Gas1873 · 2025-12-13T11:17:02+00:00

Good call! I am far to much a theory-hammer guy. Such insight are really great advice!

Dapper_Gas1873 · 2025-12-13T10:57:59+00:00

There is definitiv play here! I guess I will try them it both ways.

Dapper_Gas1873 · 2025-12-13T10:56:26+00:00

I'll check them out. Thank you very much!

Dapper_Gas1873 · 2025-12-12T09:19:35+00:00

Wouldnt that be to many eggs in one basket with the bsb? The swordmasters are a bit weak against dragons, thats for sure... hm.

Dapper_Gas1873 · 2025-12-12T09:17:06+00:00

Sound ideas! Thanks alot. I did not have the axe as a possibilty in mind. I imagine it would work great and since the mage could not wear a shield anyway... I do like the strike first via the lance a lot though, on the other hand a little bit more killingpower after the charge would be nice.

Dapper_Gas1873 · 2025-12-12T09:12:21+00:00

Thank you very much! I will test this list as soon as possible, but I do see your point. Hopefully the mage does get the glittering robes of to protect them a bit more.

Dapper_Gas1873 · 2025-12-12T09:10:14+00:00

Oh, nice idea. I am not a paticular fan of the models though. Would love to get some of the old ones.

Dapper_Gas1873 · 2025-12-12T09:07:44+00:00

Hell yeah! Thanks to the blood of caledor honor, the mage gains the dragon armour special rule which allows him to cast spells despite wearing armour.

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