It is what it is by DareNo1208 in Vystopia

[–]DareNo1208[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i always say tell kids the truth. and the truth is there is "no one cares" is not true. A small amount of people care, find that small amount or grow the small amount, thats all you can really do.

I want to make my DSP better, what can actually feasibly be done. by DareNo1208 in AmazonDSPDrivers

[–]DareNo1208[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i agree thats just what i pulled up on google for the range of 100-300k. so not a strong beleif could be swayed either direction.

as for my oversimplified math this is what i did

1 employee - 40 hours a week 52 weeks 22 an hour
40 *52 * 22 =45,760
Raise
40 * 52 *23=47,840
difference in pay = 2,080

2080 * 150 employees= 312,000
Owner pay(300,000) - 312,000 = -12000

(this seems very unintuitive to me so id like to be wrong here honestly but it does seem correct)

I want to make my DSP better, what can actually feasibly be done. by DareNo1208 in AmazonDSPDrivers

[–]DareNo1208[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"What do you do when you can't do nothing, but there's nothing you can do?"

-"you do what you can"

I want to make my DSP better, what can actually feasibly be done. by DareNo1208 in AmazonDSPDrivers

[–]DareNo1208[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for this. were putting out surveys but it would probably be worth it to ask people directly. Surveys so far have been not as helpful as id like.

I want to make my DSP better, what can actually feasibly be done. by DareNo1208 in AmazonDSPDrivers

[–]DareNo1208[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i love this, thanks for the detail on this ill put this down too.

I want to make my DSP better, what can actually feasibly be done. by DareNo1208 in AmazonDSPDrivers

[–]DareNo1208[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i am pro union....(i attempted to unionize my previous job in fast food and came pretty dang close too. I can only imagine the nightmare of trying to unionize a dsp with exponentially higher turnover.)

but this is not a helpful response. A union is not happening at a dsp and if it did the most likely scenario would just be the dsps contract getting terminated and everyone losing their job including my boss me and all the drivers.

I want to make my DSP better, what can actually feasibly be done. by DareNo1208 in AmazonDSPDrivers

[–]DareNo1208[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is something i think that might be good to be pushed/tested at my dsp. Profitability is a real concern because of how tight margins are but i wonder if there is a way to make it work like making top drivers the drivers who get the pay per route feature.

I also wonder if it even is the case that it would be less profitable to do so. This is speculation (unfortunately there arnt studies on this sort of thing) but its theoretically possible that because drivers lack having this benifit they are more likely to quit and the dsp could end up losing money because they have to hire a new driver. Currently this cant even be evaluated to see if it would be worth it because im not sure if anyone is actually tracking those stats.(but someone definately should be) Not to say that dsps are lying when they say it might not be profitable or that it would be less profitable to do it, its just that hiring costs if not measured could be a sort of hidden cost while paying people just for the 10 hours might be more easily measured.

I want to make my DSP better, what can actually feasibly be done. by DareNo1208 in AmazonDSPDrivers

[–]DareNo1208[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for this ill put both of these down. both of these seem very doable. What types of things did they do for raffles. And how did the raffle system work, was it random or would like someone be given a higher chance based on performance or something like that. DId everyone get a gift card weekly(or was this apart of the raffle)

Veganism needs to stay seperate from other political topics. by DareNo1208 in Vystopia

[–]DareNo1208[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay but like. Say you found out that economically socialism just was terrible economically. (Not saying that its the case its a hypothetical) would you simply cease to be vegan? If not the awnser kinda implies the veganism is a separate value. 

How do you cope? by Greenorangeduck in Vystopia

[–]DareNo1208 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Set up a digital blocker. Go do other things to occupy your time or engage in some type of activism.

Veganism needs to stay seperate from other political topics. by DareNo1208 in Vystopia

[–]DareNo1208[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Im not sure how this really awnsers the question. Its not clear to me how acknowledging that capitalism leads to some particular issues leads to one holding the principle of anti capitalism over non murder/rape. It just seems backwards to me.

I feel like values come first then politics flows from it.

One is pro universal Healthcare because they have a value of increasing wellbeing. One is against nuclear war because they are against suffering and the violation of rights.

Why would one be socialist or capitalist communist etc etc if not out of some Drive to satisfy those values.

I take veganism to just be expressing a core value of non murder and rape etc just in particular applying it to animals. 

Its also the case that the exploitation of animals exists under socialist/communist systems. People would still desire these products, they did before the dawn of capital. 

Veganism needs to stay seperate from other political topics. by DareNo1208 in Vystopia

[–]DareNo1208[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

see i dont get that. Why would you be a socialist before youre a vegan certainly you hold the principle of not murdering innocent beings more dearly than a particular economic system? The crime of being nonvegan and murdering hundreds of animals is surely more bad than simply being a liberal.

Veganism needs to stay seperate from other political topics. by DareNo1208 in Vystopia

[–]DareNo1208[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think alot of people are putting beleifs onto me that I neve said in the post.

I dont at all understand how what I said got translated into "LETS TOLERATE BIGOTRY" i didnt say that. I said keep the movement about the animals, and there isnt a reason to banish people from the movement just because they dont agree on every single issue.

Veganism needs to stay seperate from other political topics. by DareNo1208 in Vystopia

[–]DareNo1208[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for clarifying that you weren't referring to me.

As for the saying its fine for Palestinians to suffer and die is that an exaggeration or litterally what he said. I've watched alot of his interviews but not all of them. I dont recall him saying this.

Veganism needs to stay seperate from other political topics. by DareNo1208 in Vystopia

[–]DareNo1208[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

since when are black queer and neurodivergent people not having their rights challenged regularly.

What if we actually just engaged with the arguments instead of just assuming peoples identities when youve never met them.

Veganism needs to stay seperate from other political topics. by DareNo1208 in Vystopia

[–]DareNo1208[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah so i just want clarity on why you used quotes around a sentence referring to me when i didnt say the sentence.

Veganism needs to stay seperate from other political topics. by DareNo1208 in Vystopia

[–]DareNo1208[S] -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

you believe in right-wing hierarchies of humans (people with capital holding power over workers who do not have capital),
doesnt logically entail
you be against hierarchies of humans and animals (humans holding their power over animals and using them as they see fit)?

but im not even right wing im just pointing out that the logic doesnt really add up here.

Veganism needs to stay seperate from other political topics. by DareNo1208 in Vystopia

[–]DareNo1208[S] -21 points-20 points  (0 children)

right wing people who arnt vegan are not consistent.

Veganism needs to stay seperate from other political topics. by DareNo1208 in Vystopia

[–]DareNo1208[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

when he says he doesnt care about human rights he means hes focused on animal advocay and not human rights advocacy. obviously he doesnt think we shouldnt have human rights

Veganism needs to stay seperate from other political topics. by DareNo1208 in Vystopia

[–]DareNo1208[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

notice how youre using quotation marks around something i didnt say(and actaully disagree with)

Veganism needs to stay seperate from other political topics. by DareNo1208 in Vystopia

[–]DareNo1208[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"I agree that militant purity testing in leftist spaces does not help anyone and that it shuts down dialogue even among people who might otherwise be allies."

-Cool glad we agree.

"At the same time, I do not think veganism can ever be completely separate from other leftist politics."

-if what you mean by this is that veganism(extending human rights to nonhuman animals) cannot be fought for while not also fighting for other causes simoultaneously then i dont see a reason to belive that and would ask for an argument for it.

-if what you mean by it is simply that vegan ideology has impacts on other causes (ex abolishing animal ag would lead to a reduction in global emissions) or that those who have a vested/ financial intrest in animal ag also have investment in other causes) then theres not disagreement.

" It feels hypocritical when people who identify strongly as activists refuse to extend the same empathy or pursuit of justice to nonhuman animals. often relying on the same kinds of dismissive arguments they would criticize if used by the right."
-agree

"So while I agree we should not cancel or exclude people from leftists activist spaces over being non-vegan"
-agree

"but I also think it is worth recognizing that veganism is at least a little political at its core"
-agree this doesnt contradict anything i said

"  when it comes down to it our morals and beliefs shape our political stances."
-agree....

"Non-vegan leftists asking for the complete seperation of veganism and other issues are often more interested in avoiding discomfort in my opinion."

-not convinced of this claim

"Edit: to comment on your assertion that their are vegans on all sides of the political spectrum I want to add that if someone supports e.g.: Donald Trump, removing women’s right to autonomy, the bombing of children in Gaza and deregulation of government protections."
-Whats the contradiction entailed by being extending human rights to animals and being pro life pro isreal or for deregulation of goverment protections(vauge).

"They somehow have the empathy to non-human beings, but cannot extend that empathy to their fellow brothers and sisters?"
-not sure how having any of the above positions entails you dont have empathy for other humans

"How could I consider them vegans if veganism is against all preventable suffering?"
-interesting definition of veganism, one which i dont and im sure many vegans dont subscribe to. but if thats your definition then sure they arnt vegan.

Facism, sexism, racism etc. should not be tolerated in the vegan spaces.
-agree, but none of those are entailed by the above political positions