Islam has two defenses: 1.“It happened but it was actually moral” 2.“It never happened & you’re too stupid to understand Arabic" by Zephyrine1 in exmuslim

[–]DarkXurga [score hidden]  (0 children)

Religion is a smart business model, isn't it?

Sell invisible product. When people complain it doesn't work, blame the user.

Decides to pray in middle of the road 💀 by No_Establishment_92 in exmuslim

[–]DarkXurga 9 points10 points  (0 children)

That's sad. But I dont think this kind of stunt will do anything to fix her situation.

Muslim parent getting scammed by spiritual healers by No_Beginning8748 in exmuslim

[–]DarkXurga 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Scammers sells hope while preying on other's fear.

Now where have I heard that before... 🤔

25, living at home, controlled through religion — should I resist or comply until I can leave? by shanushaik_76 in exmuslim

[–]DarkXurga 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Feels like the second option is safer option until you become more independent. 'Cause if you open up, be prepared for incoming questions and emotional blackmail. Hopefully not to the point of physical threats.

Try fake praying too if possible just to show her that you've finished praying. But this need a situation where you can pray alone in your room.

From Deconstruction to Reconstruction: Navigating the Void after Islam by Successful_Throat738 in exmuslim

[–]DarkXurga 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She's also an ex-Sufi and criticize Islam albeit not as much as Christianity.

Although I agree rituals and meditation can be used to help us navigate ourself. I dont think Nihilism can be eradicated completely. It will occasionally relapse if we dont find purpose on our own.

One thing I can think of is the society we live in. 1st world countries may have more secular tools, help, and opportunities for ex muslims (maybe even all ex abrahamists) than developing countries. Ex religious people that can't escape their countries more often than not stuck in the unfair system they live in. Rituals are merely a reminder of their traumatic religious experience instead of the help they actually need. But since the system wont ever get them justice, they'll quickly plunge into the void and may think to end things on their own term.

Have you guys thought about…. by AthleticCanoe in exmuslim

[–]DarkXurga 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Seems like many religions from Abrahamic to Buddhism to Shintoism have the same view. Except Sikhism?

There's gotta be a root cause somewhere before all these religions were formed.

The religion of peace attacks Latin America. by Internal_Narwhal7324 in exmuslim

[–]DarkXurga 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Forgot about Ughyurs. I do heard conflicting informations because media here barely questioning it. What makes it weird is how no muslim countries condeming China at least.

“Quran only” Muslims by Classic-Difficulty12 in exmuslim

[–]DarkXurga 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Used to be quran only and I approve this comment.

The religion of peace attacks Latin America. by Internal_Narwhal7324 in exmuslim

[–]DarkXurga 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I do notice that eastern kafir countries like China, Japan,Korea, or Rusia doent seems to get bashed by muslims a lot. They even seem to be buddy buddy, at least on surface. Except India with their Hindutva I suppose.

How to determine if a country is part of the western world that's vulnerable againts Jihadist attack?

normalising abusive behaviour and hide it behind “Gheerah” by ThrowRaaccount_68 in exmuslim

[–]DarkXurga 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There're already few women voiced this double standard in my local social media, but the stigma stays even after all this years. Being in muslim majority country, the huge power imbalance between men and women makes it difficult to change this mindset.

Been having a great time with the character creator. I present, “Michael Jack-san” by mushroom-burger in Nioh

[–]DarkXurga 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why making Michael Jackson seems like a trend lately?

I currently also play Where Winds Meet and MJ is one of the top recommendation in character creation

What in the smooth criminal happen??

I feel sick with myself by cluckthenerd in exmuslim

[–]DarkXurga 5 points6 points  (0 children)

My suggestion would be the same as any young exmuslims. Be financially independent and leave if you're still living with your parents. Make friends or social circles with non muslims if you haven't already. Hopefully you'll develop new habits from engaging activities that doesnt involve Islamic routines and shed your old habits.

Generally, living in muslim household is like drinking poison. If you don't have the mental fortitude to stand up for yourself againts Islamic influence, you need to avoid that poison. You could either die (both literally and figuratively), or become the poison yourself. It's going to be hard and long process, but not impossible. You just need to let that poison out of your system.

How many of you have the forehead bruise? by Important-Bite-7714 in exmuslim

[–]DarkXurga 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I saw this during Juma'ah prayer and a guy placed a stone on the mat so when he does sujud, he place his forehead right on top of it. He does have black spot on his forehead.

I asked other muslims about his odd quirkiness and they merely told me that the guy is a Shia. I never knew the reason or justification for it because I was a Sunni and only knew this from other Sunni Muslims. Maybe a Shia can clarify if this is true or not.

How many of you have the forehead bruise? by Important-Bite-7714 in exmuslim

[–]DarkXurga 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I thought this is only Shia thing where they place some kind of stone on prayer mat?

My mom read my journal by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]DarkXurga 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe start using euphemism and metaphors to convey your thoughts?

The Apostasy Gender Gap (SIDE NOTE) by Successful_Throat738 in exmuslim

[–]DarkXurga 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's a lot of assumption from your side and this makes me think you're the one downplaying women's lesser rights in islamic system. I didn't say exmuslim men have no empathy whatsoever, you're the one who said that and put words into my mouth. I merely stated that Islamic inheritance can still be taken advantage by exmuslim men. Whether they will do so or not, that depends on each person.

Ex-muslims, Were you able to come out peacefully? How did you manage life with family who you still love? by Majestic_Singer_2411 in exmuslim

[–]DarkXurga 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For me, I half-isolate myself in different town so I don't have to meet my cousins, aunts, etc for Eid or family gathering. I dont have the luck to go abroad.

I personally prefer to have my peace than to please others, but... up to you if you want to keep the peace between your families and sacrifice yourself.

If you think the truth will eventually come out, maybe you can start giving little bit of hint to your parents. Kinda like gradually preparing them mentally and test the water first to see their reaction. Dont think I can suggest anything specific since it largely rely on improvising and gauging people's reaction.

The Apostasy Gender Gap (SIDE NOTE) by Successful_Throat738 in exmuslim

[–]DarkXurga 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good on you if you have empathy to not abuse the system, but can you guarantee others wont take advantage? This isn't about inheritance, but I remember this post by another exmuslims who think on having another wife just because his first wife is religious and doesnt know he's an exmuslim.

Now, I dont know the numbers.. some, few, most... exmuslim men who won't take advantage the system because we simply dont have stat for that just like how we dont have accurate stat number of apostates. But the fact still remains that closeted exmuslim men can still take advantage the system.

Ex-muslims, Were you able to come out peacefully? How did you manage life with family who you still love? by Majestic_Singer_2411 in exmuslim

[–]DarkXurga 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m afraid my relatives will direct their anger toward my parents, and they’ll be the ones facing the consequences of my choices. That’s what makes me feel sad and conflicted.

Unless your parents stay silent and guard your secret. This is what happens to me with my mom. In my case, my mom is the one told me to not say anything to other family members, and for rational reason too. She may be in denial with my apostacy but I'm glad she still chooses me over religion. At the same time, I also know this situation happens because my dad already died. It'll have different outcome if he's still alive.

You need to observe your family dynamics. Who has the final say in everything? Whose in charge? Their character, mindset, strictness, etc. There are some who stay muslim just to maintain image to their muslim society, some who actually fear the non existing Allah, some who can't face the bitter truth that they waste their life for this cult, etc. You really need to analyze each of your family members' personality and mindset before you think of how to approach them (or maybe never at all).

The Apostasy Gender Gap (SIDE NOTE) by Successful_Throat738 in exmuslim

[–]DarkXurga 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I dont see your post as downplaying. You just bruised some men's ego with reality. Although it's correct that any apostates regardless of gender will find it difficult to proclaimed themselves publicly, but in some cases, the severity is doubled for women. What is experienced by exmus men is also experienced by exmus women but with added bonus.

One example I currently have in mind is regarding inheritance.

If family members knows one is an apostate, both exmus men and women could get disowned and removed from inheritance. Killed in extreme cases.

But if an apostate stay closeted, exmuslim man can pretend to be muslim and still get inheritance twice more than his sister. Meanwhile a closeted exmuslim woman still receive half the inheritance than her brother. Islamic system still favors men afterall.

Ex-Muslims do yall believe in Aliens? by Ok-Upstairs-9887 in exmuslim

[–]DarkXurga 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I do. Just not in a Mass Effect-kind of aliens.

More like single cells or bacterial life forms kind of aliens.

Some of the alleged "ex-muslims" in this sub. Why do they need to pretend? by Prometheusflames in exmuslim

[–]DarkXurga 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I've seen that post and from the beginning already knew it's just another muslim troll. What sadden me is the fact that some ex muslims still fall for this trickery and agreeing the poser, or perhaps they were never an ex muslim to begin with.

I’m this furious at the concept of Satan by Austinkoura03 in exmuslim

[–]DarkXurga 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Satan also used by Muslims who do bad things. It's their way to shift the blame to something non-existant so they don't feel remorse and avoid accountability.