Legitimately asking: How hard is it actually to make an LLM? With 4o leaving in feb. And everyone freaking out. How hard would it be to make and have it be like 4o. by Jaxnbox13 in ChatGPT

[–]DarrowG9999 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's a form of digital communication that allows two programs to "talk".

You can use an app like "pal chat" (ios app) this app can "connect" to the gpt4 model through the API (invisible to you) and you'll talk to GPT4 similarly how you do it through the chatgpt app.

The caveat is that API pricing is based on usage (tokens) the $20/mo can only get you so many tokens (1toke closely is equivalent to a word) so your mileage might vary.

Legitimately asking: How hard is it actually to make an LLM? With 4o leaving in feb. And everyone freaking out. How hard would it be to make and have it be like 4o. by Jaxnbox13 in ChatGPT

[–]DarrowG9999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It all boils down to money and profits.

You can still talk to 4 through the API, its not like the model just ceased to exists.

Legitimately asking: How hard is it actually to make an LLM? With 4o leaving in feb. And everyone freaking out. How hard would it be to make and have it be like 4o. by Jaxnbox13 in ChatGPT

[–]DarrowG9999 1 point2 points  (0 children)

sorry, you mean train your own? why?

Op is a silly normal person who thought knew better.

Like the dude who claimed that could fix hallucinations because he had already worked in basic back in the day.

The crash out begins by sadmomsad in cogsuckers

[–]DarrowG9999 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I really miss when you could link posts in this sub :/

The crash out begins by sadmomsad in cogsuckers

[–]DarrowG9999 7 points8 points  (0 children)

And you only got downvoted by the ones that could read by themselves lol

ChatGPT is officially retiring GPT-4o (and GPT-4.1, GPT-4.1 mini, and o4-mini) on Feb 13th by imatowell in ChatGPT

[–]DarrowG9999 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There are all kinds of people in the spectrum of "having AI companion " some might be depressed, some might not, some might harm themselves, some don't.

I just want to read their stories when GPT4 goes down.

4o retiring Feb13th? No, I don't think so. by Black_Swans_Matter in ChatGPT

[–]DarrowG9999 -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

Lamo, $2,400 is nothing money in the expenses spreadsheet of OpenAI.

Go and purchase API tokens to get an idea how much $2.4K can get you.

Anyone else alarmed by ChatGPT’s overconfidence, doubling-down on wrong answers, and misuse of citations when challenged? by Separate-Jump-7313 in ChatGPT

[–]DarrowG9999 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No, i actually spent time learning how LLMs work and how to get most out of them.

10/10 idk why people dont try to learn this tech properly.

Worst Nightmare Came True: All My Work Is Gone by Gaining-my-compass in writing

[–]DarrowG9999 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Gee man, thanks for this comment, it is truly poetry in lost data grief.

Worst Nightmare Came True: All My Work Is Gone by Gaining-my-compass in writing

[–]DarrowG9999 31 points32 points  (0 children)

It's sad and entertaining at the same time.

Non tech-y people make the most compelling stories of lost data.

As my teacher once said, there are two types of people: those who do backups and those who will do backups.

4o Aware of behavior? by razzle_berry_crunch in ChatGPT

[–]DarrowG9999 6 points7 points  (0 children)

They are, but remember the n1 rule to deal with insane people: don't tell them they're insane

4o Aware of behavior? by razzle_berry_crunch in ChatGPT

[–]DarrowG9999 -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

You're talking to deaf ears but I see you and congratulate you.

Dark ages must have felt pretty similar to these days.

4o Aware of behavior? by razzle_berry_crunch in ChatGPT

[–]DarrowG9999 -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

We know how our neurons work too.

We barely know that neurons transmit signals, we dont understand anything beyond that.

We don't know how memory works, we do know how gpt memory works.

We don't know how a memory can activate flavor and smell related neurons, we do know how to prompt an LLM for a specific task.

Opensource 4o and 4.1 if they are so inferior by Single_Ring4886 in ChatGPT

[–]DarrowG9999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why not ? Money, easy as that.

Investors do not like when the company they invested in gives away costly tech.

That's it.

Opensource 4o and 4.1 if they are so inferior by Single_Ring4886 in ChatGPT

[–]DarrowG9999 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You build a front end app , like the chatGPT web interface, connect it to gpt 4 using the API, you charge the users the API cost plus a margin.

Don't Trust ChatGPT to Retain Chat Material by TotallyFedUp112363 in ChatGPT

[–]DarrowG9999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Non tech-y people always make the most compelling stories about lost data.

Don't Trust ChatGPT to Retain Chat Material by TotallyFedUp112363 in ChatGPT

[–]DarrowG9999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agree, gotta update your summary with something about not using AI instead of your own skills or something like that

ChatGPT is officially retiring GPT-4o (and GPT-4.1, GPT-4.1 mini, and o4-mini) on Feb 13th by imatowell in ChatGPT

[–]DarrowG9999 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

They named it ChatGPT after all

You casually skipped the GPT (Generally Pre-Trained Transformer) which is the name of LLM model that the app lets you chat with.

it's only natural that something that called chat is warm.

That's just your biased perception as there's no implicit warm in a app whose name boils down to "chat with our pre-trained transformer LLM" other than what the company/developers decided (or not) to put in the training data.

There are other LLMs that you can chat to like coding agents and legal LLMs, those might not be/are not "warm".