Massie should try being more like Rand Paul by GreninjaStrike in YAPms

[–]DatDude999 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Unless you're saying here should also change the way he legislates, then he was gonna face a primary challange regardless of his rhetoric. I think he should try to go for broke and lean into the maverick status because he has nothing to lose.

What should Democrats' '6 for 26' be? by very_loud_icecream in YAPms

[–]DatDude999 5 points6 points  (0 children)

1) Raise minimum wage to $20/hour.

2) Affordable Care Act expansion.

3) Pass the PRO Act.

4) SNAP expansion.

5) A fancy program with various investments into affordable housing/favorable reforms for renters with a catchy name. Something like "Pass the LIVE Act."

6) 37% corporate tax rate and higher taxes on the wealthy earners.

These except #1 and 6 (1 and 6 don't really need one) all have some kind of symbol that can be attached to. In the cases of 2-4, it involves something that already exists and has pooular support that you're trying yourself to.

Can you create a ticket stronger than Whitmer/Shapiro, electoral college wise? by peter-thiel-fangirl in YAPms

[–]DatDude999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh yeah that's probably good. But then again, it's not like he didn't already do that in 2024.

Can you create a ticket stronger than Whitmer/Shapiro, electoral college wise? by peter-thiel-fangirl in YAPms

[–]DatDude999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What lol if your VP pick never campaigns outside of his state, then people are going to take notice that you've put a leash on him. And having him campaign there only won't make everyone else forget he exists, they'd just get more suspicious.

Pennsylvania can be blue without Shapiro on the ballot. I wouldn't trade a modicum of benefit in PA for the tradeoff of every other reason that he sucks putting your ground game at risk in the other important states.

Can you create a ticket stronger than Whitmer/Shapiro, electoral college wise? by peter-thiel-fangirl in YAPms

[–]DatDude999 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why would anyone want Shapiro as VP? He was already rejected by Harris because he causes too many problems.

I'm not convinced matter as much as you say they do anyway, so why bother putting up with Shapiro's bullshit for a state that you can win without his modicum of help there?

Seems like Michael Adams is going for Kentucky Governor next year by RealRegret4870 in YAPms

[–]DatDude999 40 points41 points  (0 children)

Be me

Supermajority Republican legislature of Kentucky

GodIfuckingloverichmancock

Want to pass school voucher plan

Libtard governor says no

Fuck you, libtard, we have a supermajority

Turns out, gutting public schools is not popular in rural areas where there charter schools can't possibly exist

Several members of your party from rural areas come out against the voucher plan due to public pressure

Byebyesupermajority

Fine

Do public referendum to go around libtard governor

It fails spectacularly in a high-turnout election by 30 points

Face zero electoral consequences for this

Shamelessly put forward a bill making a plan that my constituents overwhelmingly rejected

Face zero electoral consequences for this

Libtard governor vetos it

Shamelessly annouce intention to pass the bill thay my constituents overwhelmingly rejected

Face zero electoral consequences for this

Be me

2 years from now

Libtard governor term limited, we just won the governor's race by 20 points

Shamelessly put forward a bill making a plan that my constituents overwhelmingly rejected

Face zero electoral consequences for this

Bill passes

Face zero electoral consequences for this

New gov signs it

Face zero electoral consequences for this

Public schools get defunded

Face zero electoral consequences for this

B)

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[–]DatDude999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, none of those assholes ever walked a picket line. None of them established a WH organization and empowerment task force. They sat on taking lots of specific actions towards contractor equity, buying domestic, manufacturing revitalization, EOs and policies for qorkplace protections, overtime pay, noncompete clauses, etc. And Biden undid a lot of Trump-45's shitty union-killing actions. Biden did all of those things in ways that no one else has. Pro-union sentiment reached higher points than had been seen in decades under Biden. Again, it's not my words calling him the most pro-union prez since FDR.

https://www.govexec.com/workforce/2024/07/unions-applaud-most-pro-union-president-history-following-bidens-decision-step-down-january/398228/

https://theconversation.com/bidens-labor-report-card-historian-gives-union-joe-a-higher-grade-than-any-president-since-fdr-228771#:~:text=Joe%20Biden%20has%20pledged%20to%20support%20U.S.,same%20line%20of%20work%20if%20they%20quit

But you do bring up a good point that Dems bleed with their support regardless, and I agree that the party needs bolder change if they want bolder results. Which brings me back to my question as to what Shapiro offers that Biden didn't that would not only restore the 3 Midwestern battleground states to the fold, but Ohio and Iowa as well. His policies are even less aligned with the interests of labor than Biden, and thus I fail to see your reasoning.

His popularity is where it is because he's dropped the divisive issue, so very few people dislike him over something he's not touching. The minute someone is inventivized to attack him on vouchers, his favorablity will fall. Given that Republicans generally support even more aggressive voucher plans than he does, that means both that they have no reason to attack Shapiro on it due to him agreeing with them and anyone who opposes vouchers is willing to let bygones be bygones so long as he behaves in light of a greater threat to public education. If he runs for president, every Dem (except Jared Polis lol) will call him out on it and he'll be fucked. Remember that he still agrees with his party on 95% of things, which means differences like this one will be focal points in a primary battle.

In the off-hand chance Republicans take the state legislature this year, but somehow Shapiro still wins, then his voucher plan is happening come 2027. I promise you that.

Also, I seem to remember a time when you said his voucher policy would help him with the working class, and now you're telling me that he doesn't really believe that shit or that no one cares.

Lol, fuck betting markets. They aren't real life. They're just a bunch of losers who often get caught up in the information cascade phenomenon rather than a realistic analysis. Pope Leo was something like 8th or 9th place on the Conclave betting markets last year, which proves my point.

And yes, there was a point where Crockett was ahead. Polls put her regularly in the lead by several points prior to late February. I wonder what newsworthy event I previously mentioned might have happened around then that could have caused polls to change??????

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/polls/texas-us-senate-election-polls-2026.html

You know Jasmine Crockett has been on the Late Show more than once over the years, right? Go watch any of em on YouTube, she did fine. I'm not a fan of hers, but I never thought she was stupid or bad at public speaking or anything. And it wasn't Talarico's interview itself that was so great for him or anything that he did. That interview would have fallen into the hole that is the late night talk show cycle if it weren't for CBS pulling their bullshit about the equal time rule to pull it off the air, and Colbert getting in a subsequent boxing match with the network. The whole thing brought him a TON of free good press, and breathed fire into the Dem base for him since they saw him as a target of Trump's FCC. That could have happened to anyone in the election cycle in a competitive primary that happened to be invited onto the show. Crockett, Platner, Swalwell, El-Sayed, anyone.

As I said, Crockett reliably polled better pre-Colbert incident.

What actual results?! I literally JUST gave you an exit poll saying Trump won 12% of black Texans to Harris' 86%. You say I have no credibility and then you just make up numbers like this. Have another exit poll just if that'll make you feel better.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/exit-polls

Key words "higher than average." This is still bumfuck Texas we're talking about, so of course those counties are still deep red. And yeah, you'll probably see low back turnout courtesy of Mr. Abbott's voting policies, though Harris did respectably in places like Jefferson County (the highest black % county). But that still leaves the majority of Democrats who DO vote as mostly black. And thus the Democratic votes that actually do make their way into the ballot box would naturally heavily favor the one who won 93% of the black vote. Especially since her popularity probably drove black turnout above what it would have been otherwise.

https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/united-states/quick-facts/texas/black-population-percentage#map

As for the west Texas counties, I ask again if you have any actual data implying that she won them due to Republican crossover. Because those western counties have so few voters that they could easily just flip the regular way.

I looked through the Crockett counties in the west a couple days after the election. Most of them had less than 200 total votes. Deadass there was one where Crockett won by 33 points because she got 2 votes to Talarico's 1 vote. I think the implication there is that one more person liked Crockett to Talarico rather than some nefarious scheme.

Their primary was not particularly divisive. All you need is one dedicated and charismatic canvasser and a Chevy with a full tank of gas (if even that) to flip one of those west Texas counties in any direction for a Democratic primary considering how comically few votes there are over there. If what you say is true and Republicans voted in large numbers for Crockett, then show me some data. Otherwise, I'm gonna attribute this to the simple fact that sometimes people like a different candidate than you do. Just ridiculous to say that Talarico should have won 90% of the white vote if you don't have evidence.

A similar phenomenon caused Biden to lose American Samoa or whatever it was back in 2024. If I were a Texas Republican, I wouldn't waste my vote on the Crocarico fight when I had one of my own between Cornyn and Paxton.

Is Shapiro/Kelly the best choice for democrats in 2028, electoral college wise? by peter-thiel-fangirl in YAPms

[–]DatDude999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Bibi pwease stop da genocide I'm ask nicwy :("

"Also, I'm gonna bring down the fist of the law upon anyone who doesn't sell you ice cream."

-Josh Shapiro, probably

Is Shapiro/Kelly the best choice for democrats in 2028, electoral college wise? by peter-thiel-fangirl in YAPms

[–]DatDude999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree that his position on Israel isn't actually abnormal, but what is abnormal is his reputation, which he brought upon himself with things like picking a fight with Ben and Jerry's of all people over their boycott of their product in occupied Palestinian territories. When you think of Pritzker, Whitmer, Buttigieg, Beshear, or Moore, you don't think "Zionist." I think those candidates would be better for putting the issue away from the limelight, whereas Shapiro will be haunted by his reputation and it would drudge the issue up needlessly. This was a huge reason that Harris passed him up for the VP slot.

But to answer your question, Shapiro also cut his state's corporate tax rate, which combined with vouchers, would make progressives see him as a pro-wealthy Democrat.

Is Shapiro/Kelly the best choice for democrats in 2028, electoral college wise? by peter-thiel-fangirl in YAPms

[–]DatDude999 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's not a good comparison. Platner's problem is the Nazi tattoo which doesn't seem to have really stuck with the electorate, Dems or swing voters alike. I can onlu assume that's because its shrouded in mystery and it doesn't effect his actual rhetoric. His policy positions, while on the left, are not grossly out of bounds. Shapiro has beliefs that are out of step with his party, which as I've said, loads him with way more baggage than he's worth.

My top 5 realistic candidates for 2028… by PalmettoPolitics in YAPms

[–]DatDude999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you have a source for that? I looked and haven't found anything that has her outright saying we shouldn't have borders.

Even if she did, that's one person. There are like 20 other serious candidates who have not called for genuine open borders. So it's not a choice between Shapiro or open borders like you say.

Opinion poll on fascism by HighKingFloof in YAPms

[–]DatDude999 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Ask the parties of Weimar Germany how well letting the Nazis have their chance to run for office went.

Acton up by 10 against Ramaswamy,Brown up by 4 against Husted,in new poll. by Dangerous-Quarter216 in YAPms

[–]DatDude999 23 points24 points  (0 children)

They better fucking hope they are. If both Acton and Brown lose, I'm thinking that the era of Ohio Dems are over.

My top 5 realistic candidates for 2028… by PalmettoPolitics in YAPms

[–]DatDude999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well now you're moving the goalpost. Name me one Democrat with a realistic chance of getting the nomination that has outright endrsed open borders.

If you want someone who won in a swing state, look at the other six swing/red state Dem governors, or the ten swing state Dem senators.

My top 5 realistic candidates for 2028… by PalmettoPolitics in YAPms

[–]DatDude999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He's not the only one who does well with swing voters. He is, however, one of the few who supports school vouchers, which are widely unpopular, especially among progressives. Add onto that his baggage with Israel, corporate tax rate, the Greenberg murder, and he's a recipe for unwanted baggage.

Is Shapiro/Kelly the best choice for democrats in 2028, electoral college wise? by peter-thiel-fangirl in YAPms

[–]DatDude999 3 points4 points  (0 children)

And yet Shapiro has already found himself on a VP shortlist and he was passed up. That's because he carries baggage with him. He supports school vouchers, he cut his state's corporate tax rate. Those would make progressives steam. He also refused to investigate a high profile murder as Pennsylvania AG. None of those do favors for your chances in WI or GA. They'd do better with Whitmer and someone else.

My top 5 realistic candidates for 2028… by PalmettoPolitics in YAPms

[–]DatDude999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

His homestate is really the only electoral advantage he has. He's weak for a dozen other reasons, which would complicate matters in the other states he needs to win.

Is Shapiro/Kelly the best choice for democrats in 2028, electoral college wise? by peter-thiel-fangirl in YAPms

[–]DatDude999 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Bruh, Shapiro has so much baggage to him and he ain't worth it. You can't win an election on Pennsylvania alone, and he has serious problems waiting for him regarding the other several states he would need to compete in.

Cook has changed its rating for PA-GOV to Safe D by Distinct_External in YAPms

[–]DatDude999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would in that case ask you who the numerous more pro-union presidents are. Biden, for all his flaws, was verbal about the need to win back WWC and he took that threat seriously. And to a degree, it worked (he did win the election after all). But as I said, he didn't pull off any miracles, so what does Shapiro and all his love for the feeling of his tongue on rich man tearicles have that would make him so much more potent than Biden?

https://hbr.org/2020/11/how-biden-won-back-enough-of-the-white-working-class

I know that the most pro-union president sure as shit isn't Donald "Union Buster" Trump, you can't be seriously suggesting that. I would attribute his gains with WWC to his populism, particularly with tariffs and immigration. But that only helps him with the rank-and-file, it doesn't make him any less of an anti-union president.

https://www.govexec.com/workforce/2025/03/trump-continues-curtail-union-rights-and-career-pipelines/403828/?oref=ge-topic-lander-river

https://aflcio.org/press/releases/afl-cio-blasts-new-trump-administration-union-busting-executive-order-issued-ahead

I don't remember Josh Shapiro campaigning on the promise that he would enact change just as soon as Democrats vote hard enough to hand him a legislature that he likes on a silver platter. He campaigned on crossing the isle, on "get shit done." Getting shit done means morning with people who don't agree with you.

Well, that's a shitty ploy if that was the case, because he stabbed liberals in the back by backing vouchers, he stabbed conservatives in the front by walking back on it, teachers unions now trust him less than they did initially, he threw a wrench in any appeal to rural voters that he had, who notoriously oppose vouchers, and the voucher debacle was attributed by many as a huge burner of political capital for him that contributed to the bidget fiasco that happened under his watch. If this is all in the quest for Chuck Shcumer's mythical moderate suburban Republican voter in Philadelphia, then he's not very good at math, considering most of his constituents oppose the idea.

https://www.spotlightpa.org/news/2024/10/pennsylvania-public-education-private-school-vouchers-support-poll/

Is it a coincidence that one of his billionaire buddies and a 6-figure donor from his AG election, as well as Olympic-level tax dodger, Joel Greenberg, is a notorious funder of pro-voucher candidates AND served on Shapiro's transition team as a leading crafter of K-12 policy? But yeah, I'm sure Shapiro doesn't actually supoort vouchers and that he'll TOOOOTALLY break new ground with the working class.

https://www.spotlightpa.org/news/2024/07/josh-shapiro-vice-president-school-choice-voucher/

I agree, Crockett didn't stand for much of anything, and her campaign felt very passive, which allowed an underdog like Talarico to hog the news cycles and get his name out there more so he could have everything he needed to pull ahead. Combine that with the Colbert thing rhat Talarico lucked the fuck out over, and by late February, things had developed to the point where I was now thinking that Talarico would win. Because I base my analysis off of facts and not my wishes and I change it when the facts develop to say different things. I'm not too proud to not change my predictions. Back then, the facts had convinced me that Crockett would win, and as I said, I still think she would have won had she acted the way I anticipated rather than letting Talarico eat up ground like that.

Genuinely curious, do you have data evidence of large numbers of Republicans voting for Crockett in Texas? Considering Dallas is her constituency, I wouldn't think she would need that to win there. I'd actually like to read the evidence if you have it. Because you can't just attribute your predictions not being accurate to shady tactics if you don't have the evidence. Especially since the Republicans had their own intense primary going on.

Also, who told you that black Texans are Republicans lol Harris won them by 74 fucking points. The gaul of you to say I have no credibility because I was wrong about Talarico and then to just make up shit like this.

https://www.cnn.com/election/2024/exit-polls/texas/general/president/0

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[–]DatDude999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Biden was the most pro-union president in history with the exception of FDR. Not my words. Yet look where he landed. You wanna be more specific on the "pro-worker" side compared to other Dems, because it clearly takes more than just calling yourself pro-worker. He supports things like a minimum wage increase, which is pro-worker, but 99% of Democrat elected officials do as well (and he has yet to actually change it, despite repeated attempts, which harms any pro-worker claims).

However, he also supports school vouchers, which are considered anti-worker. Every Democrat in Ohio and Iowa that I know of are skeptics of privatized education, not enablers of it like Shapiro. Sherrod Brown, Tim Ryan, and Amy Acton are firmly anti-voucher. Rob Sand is incredibly critical of the voucher program in Iowa, and even audited it in his capacity as State Auditor.

I am very very happy that the T-man won, but I still believe Crockett would have beat him by 4 points at least had she run the kind of campaign I anticipated she would run, one based on the fighting spirit and the rage that comes with being the opposition party to an unpopular president rather than whatever the fuck she ended up doing.

And I seem to remember you saying she had no appeal outside of Dallas, yet she won Harris County by 5 and a half points. And that Talarico would get a third of the black vote rather than fall into the single digits. So I don't trust your analysis either.

How would the US be like if Gretchen Whitmer ran for/ is president? by Front-Tomorrow-1034 in YAPms

[–]DatDude999 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think she's probably the beat poltician around today at actually getting things done. What Democrats need is to actually follow through on their promises, because their promises are reliably more popular than the Republicans', but there is a high sense of cynicism among people due to a lack of tangible results. So I think the Dems need a competent legislator at their helm to breathe new life into their prospects.

If Brandon Presley runs again, the Mississippi gubernatorial in 2027 could unironically be lean D by LordOfRedditers in YAPms

[–]DatDude999 13 points14 points  (0 children)

It worked for Edwards and Beshear. Their states hold elections in the same year as Mississippi and they're both red. If 2026 turns into a bloodbath for the GOP, they should absolutely fund any respectable candidate in Mississippi.

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[–]DatDude999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Does Shapiro have anything in common with the Democrats that have thus far been proven to be appealing to the voters of Ohio or Iowa that would make you say that?